Hm, true.. It is not theoretically possible that the video was taken at dusk? I had the impression that MO had rotating sun and moon so it might be possible to catch when one is going down?
nah the stars come out when its dusk also you can see the god rays still,
i have no problem with people exploiting if thats what they need to do to be viable then so be it, but when they get caught they should man up. If i was him i would be happy they kept my ban active since i just showed them evidence of exploiting un intentinally proves they are at least trying to do something against exploiters.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
I'm not an MO player, but there are alot of folks saying the player in the video never needed to reload, which they are saying is an exploit. Even if it's a bug, a bug isn't allowed to be used as a known exploit. Certainly the player in the video noticed that he never had to reload.
I'm not an MO player, but there are alot of folks saying the player in the video never needed to reload, which they are saying is an exploit. Even if it's a bug, a bug isn't allowed to be used as a known exploit. Certainly the player in the video noticed that he never had to reload.
exactly and conveniently its like this almsot every video he posts. So the gms banned him and someone esle after the gm ingame took 5000 dmaage in 1 second until they could figure out etf happened, he posted these vids to show it wasnt him but in the process showed him exploiting so the gm kept the 24 hour ban up on him.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
i always knew you were a cheater Nightburn. just about every single time i got killed by you there was some very fishy stuff going on. the last time you killed me i was sprinting arround your horse and you kept shooting and didn't miss one arrow. as a mounted archer myself i know that basically impossible.... but, there was your horse, pivoting arround as fast as i was able to sprint arround it.
skilled my ass.....about time they got rid of you.
So AQ got even more AQ people to come here and try to justify the fact that I was banned? Cant take me in game, take me out of the game. I see your thinking:
Me and Nightmare are the two AQ's who post on this forum regularly. I see no other AQs here which leads me to believe no one asked anyone to come here and pvp you
As for your comment as well as your video which proves you are infinitely better than every AQ and that they have never landed a hit on you while you take down their horses, I find it a bit lame.
Ive seen first hand that youre a good player at MO as in BRB you were one of the few who could beat me consistently in 1v1s, but in reality what exactly does it show? For starters you are Brazilian which means you lag like a bitch, which is known to be beneficial to quite an extent due to client side hit detection. The game itself is laggy which really means skill has little importance as the best fighters are those who know how to manipulate the prediction and if you're laggy I can only imagine it gets amplified.
And to reference the sun again the AQs who were fighting you at Vadda all say the sun was really bright for them so...
Also you've always been very much a play to win guy rolling FOTM setups eagerly, I mean polesword mounted archer, really? so naturally that's not going to discourage people from thinking you'll go further to win, i.e not having to reload, disabling sun, optimizing your resolution for ease of play, etc. just saying
So AQ got even more AQ people to come here and try to justify the fact that I was banned? Cant take me in game, take me out of the game. I see your thinking:
Me and Nightmare are the two AQ's who post on this forum regularly. I see no other AQs here which leads me to believe no one asked anyone to come here and pvp you
As for your comment as well as your video which proves you are infinitely better than every AQ and that they have never landed a hit on you while you take down their horses, I find it a bit lame.
Ive seen first hand that youre a good player at MO as in BRB you were one of the few who could beat me consistently in 1v1s, but in reality what exactly does it show? For starters you are Brazilian which means you lag like a bitch, which is known to be beneficial to quite an extent due to client side hit detection. The game itself is laggy which really means skill has little importance as the best fighters are those who know how to manipulate the prediction and if you're laggy I can only imagine it gets amplified.
And to reference the sun again the AQs who were fighting you at Vadda all say the sun was really bright for them so...
Also you've always been very much a play to win guy rolling FOTM setups eagerly, I mean polesword mounted archer, really? so naturally that's not going to discourage people from thinking you'll go further to win, i.e not having to reload, disabling sun, optimizing your resolution for ease of play, etc. just saying
exactly the same that happened with russian and blackmage, hell blackmage gets banned shows ia video of him with the leaves turned off, blaming aq for it when a week earlier a member of his guild was running around with a live stream and trees turnedoff. Devs fixed it blackmage gets perma banned, Hopefully your video will increase the speed at which they fix the sun issue.
think its a shame you wont be coming back to MO ever again now nightburn, even for awakening but i guess now you hate the game for banning you exploiting
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
So AQ got even more AQ people to come here and try to justify the fact that I was banned? Cant take me in game, take me out of the game. I see your thinking:
Ive seen first hand that youre a good player at MO as in BRB you were one of the few who could beat me consistently in 1v1s, but in reality what exactly does it show? For starters you are Brazilian which means you lag like a bitch, which is known to be beneficial to quite an extent due to client side hit detection. The game itself is laggy which really means skill has little importance as the best fighters are those who know how to manipulate the prediction and if you're laggy I can only imagine it gets amplified.
Which you are one of them. Master of the Cyde Shuffle!!
The game itself is laggy which really means skill has little importance as the best fighters are those who know how to manipulate the prediction and if you're laggy I can only imagine it gets amplified.
This is very informative imo. One of the best-known and respected PvPers in MO states that MO's PvP requires little skill beyond effective manipulation of the game's crappy perfomance.
PvP being the sole focus of the game, one would have thought that at least it should require some degree of skill. But no, it's all about lag switching, glitching, bug exploiting and even hacking.
Let me ask you Cyde, why do you, as a PvPer, still play a game that requires no skill?
We both know the arrow stack thing you are referring to can be so freaking random that sometimes you do it even though you didnt mean to.
Looks really bad on AQ to try and justify my banning like this here and in the MO forums, looks like "If we cant take him in game, might as well gt hid of him somehow". And even if it were because of the arrow thing, which it wasnt because you cant tell from his perspective in the video, then I think some people from your guild should be banned as well mate.
Anyways, clearly isnt because of that:
<[GM]xxxxxxxxxx> because your version of what happened is like 100% wrong from his version so he's clearly seeing smething very messed up
Cut the crap. You are not talking to Discord or Theia and we arent all around 20s. It seems that the arrows bug happens to you very often and you are providing fact of it by posting videos. I m playing the game since day one and the arrows bug happened to me once and i had to ask around about it so dont underestimate our mentality. Your ban is well deserved and since you are repeating the same exploiting methods to get a slight advantage against the people you are griefing, you should be banned for more than 24 hours imo. You claim you are supporting the game for 2 years but the fact is that your subscription costed to them a few hundred other subs cause of your blatant, pointless griefing around Nave but i ll agree that being a prick is not enough for a ban. Exploiting sure is. Concerning the GM's not informing the player about the reasons that got him banned, have to agree with Deathshroud that is the most absurd thing i ve ever heard from a company, but i m pretty sure that is related to the fact that a major scandinavian gaming company lost in a court of law a case that a non so legitimate customer was asking for compensation because he got banned for not using so legitimate methods.
If people from AQ or anyother guild are using exploits they should be banned without second question. Now to the point that you threatning that if you are not gonna get a public apology you will start flaming the game... you really proved your value, nature and character and certainly your level on maturity. Just do us all a favour: do whatever you feel like cause you will not get a public apology from SV, so go out there and flame, shame or whatever you feel like. But stay away from the game itself cause you clearly doing only harm and no good.
but i m pretty sure that is related to the fact that a major scandinavian gaming company lost in a court of law a case that a non so legitimate customer was asking for compehension because he got banned for not using so legitimate methods.
I am curious to know more about this, care to share a link/name?
but i m pretty sure that is related to the fact that a major scandinavian gaming company lost in a court of law a case that a non so legitimate customer was asking for compehension because he got banned for not using so legitimate methods.
I am curious to know more about this, care to share a link/name?
Glad you copied that sentence cause i saw how wrong i did spell "compensation". It was a link i ve followed years ago approximately when Age of Conan released. I m pretty sure that company was Funcom (the time was around Anarchy's Online first year) and back then they where forced to compromise with the customer. After a quick search i didnt found anything on the subject appart from that incident: http://www.gamespot.com/news/funcom-responds-to-blacksnow-dispute-2854452 which is different but has some similarities concerning the ban aspect of the case. I m sure if you have the patience to search you will get smt since i remember i ve even found back then Funcom's CEO letter apologizing to the customer that won his law suit (was funny cause same CEO was very cruel on the same guy when he first tried to contact with the company to complain about his ban). Also the company since then changed its ways and policies regarding exploit issues and ended up nowdays being totaly carebear regarding exploits and avoiding baning people even though they re blatantly exploiting regardless there are videos and screenshots proving that.
Sorry for derailing the thread. Back on topic. Enjoy your Ban Midnightseph. That will make you think twice about gaining non legitimate advantages in the next game you will play.
I watched this whole vid and read all convos and I have to symphatise with SV and their GM team for having to deal with so much crap of a humankind.
Seriously. This guy probably hasn't been out in the world for the past few years. That or he's simply young. What a cry baby. Getting a 24 hour ban and going in full QQ mode, even rushing into releasing a vid showing himself cheating (or abusing a bug, same shit).
A GM encountering something that looks like cheater should always IMMIDIATELY take measures. Obviously a loose hacker can potentialy do much much bigger damage, making many more people quit.
Any normal player should be able to realise this and patiently wait for the better of the game. And than after ban is lifted and innocence proven should he take meassures if he doesn't get reimbursed for 24 hours of playtime.
But it seems like he is just desperate for attention. And he demands it NOW. Only one GM has spoken to him! I mean ONLY one, how dare they!!
And everyone MUST realise he is innocent in the next minute vid was released! Or else..!
24 hour ban stays, due to cheating revealed provided by cheater alone (yes, making use of a bug is cheating even if a bug appears unintended). And than he quits. Now that's a hurt gamers ego right there.
What is very interesting to me though is how absolutely no one asked about the other guy who got banned. The video proved that neither of us did what we were accused of in the first place. They try to justify my ban using my video. What about the other guy though? Unfortunately his ban also stayed even though he did nothing and he didn’t get an apology either.
What is very interesting to me though is how absolutely no one asked about the other guy who got banned. The video proved that neither of us did what we were accused of in the first place. They try to justify my ban using my video. What about the other guy though? Unfortunately his ban also stayed even though he did nothing and he didn’t get an apology either.
Well, I´ve personally taken a break from MO due to me being pissed off at cheaters I´ve run into. And here we have a guy that litterally get cought with his pants down, and he comes here to win sympathy for cheating. Wow. Just wow. I hope they perma ban you and anyone else that keep ruining the game for others. You´ve probably hurt the game more then SV ever been able to do. Cheaters to me are the lowest of low. I have zero sympathy for this kind of act. Where the hell is the fun in playing a game, and the only way to win, is to cheat? You get a freaking red card in my book every day in the week. Good work SV and I hope you´ve learned somehting from this, but reading your replies tell me your a lost cause.
What is very interesting to me though is how absolutely no one asked about the other guy who got banned. The video proved that neither of us did what we were accused of in the first place. They try to justify my ban using my video. What about the other guy though? Unfortunately his ban also stayed even though he did nothing and he didn’t get an apology either.
Well, I´ve personally taken a break from MO due to me being pissed off at cheaters I´ve run into. And here we have a guy that litterally get cought with his pants down, and he comes here to win sympathy for cheating. Wow. Just wow. I hope they perma ban you and anyone else that keep ruining the game for others. You´ve probably hurt the game more then SV ever been able to do. Cheaters to me are the lowest of low. I have zero sympathy for this kind of act. Where the hell is the fun in playing a game, and the only way to win, is to cheat? You get a freaking red card in my book every day in the week. Good work SV and I hope you´ve learned somehting from this, but reading your replies tell me your a lost cause.
While I do agree cheaters are scum that should be permabanned, you also have to remember that a poorly designed and coded game provides more opportunities to cheat. A game with amaterurish customer support and biased player GMs makes the issue even worse.
So of course, cheaters should be banned (and also named and shamed, imo), but SV has a history of very shady dealings with knowns hacks and exploits - sometimes banning random people for minor stuff, sometimes allowing well-known hackers, dupers and exploiters to come back time after time. More often than not, GMs have done nothing to prevent serious exploits (like glitching into palisades), and then interfered during sieges, giving one side unfair advantages, officially because the other side "exploited" even though that was not the case.
So yeah, cheaters harm the game, but SV harms it even more by not dealing with them in an adequate way. There will always be players who cheat, especially in competetive games like MO and it's up to the devs to do something about it. It's not like moralizing about it will make cheating go away...
What is very interesting to me though is how absolutely no one asked about the other guy who got banned. The video proved that neither of us did what we were accused of in the first place. They try to justify my ban using my video. What about the other guy though? Unfortunately his ban also stayed even though he did nothing and he didn’t get an apology either.
Well, I´ve personally taken a break from MO due to me being pissed off at cheaters I´ve run into. And here we have a guy that litterally get cought with his pants down, and he comes here to win sympathy for cheating. Wow. Just wow. I hope they perma ban you and anyone else that keep ruining the game for others. You´ve probably hurt the game more then SV ever been able to do. Cheaters to me are the lowest of low. I have zero sympathy for this kind of act. Where the hell is the fun in playing a game, and the only way to win, is to cheat? You get a freaking red card in my book every day in the week. Good work SV and I hope you´ve learned somehting from this, but reading your replies tell me your a lost cause.
While I do agree cheaters are scum that should be permabanned, you also have to remember that a poorly designed and coded game provides more opportunities to cheat. A game with amaterurish customer support and biased player GMs makes the issue even worse.
So of course, cheaters should be banned (and also named and shamed, imo), but SV has a history of very shady dealings with knowns hacks and exploits - sometimes banning random people for minor stuff, sometimes allowing well-known hackers, dupers and exploiters to come back time after time. More often than not, GMs have done nothing to prevent serious exploits (like glitching into palisades), and then interfered during sieges, giving one side unfair advantages, officially because the other side "exploited" even though that was not the case.
So yeah, cheaters harm the game, but SV harms it even more by not dealing with them in an adequate way. There will always be players who cheat, especially in competetive games like MO and it's up to the devs to do something about it. It's not like moralizing about it will make cheating go away...
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What is very interesting to me though is how absolutely no one asked about the other guy who got banned. The video proved that neither of us did what we were accused of in the first place. They try to justify my ban using my video. What about the other guy though? Unfortunately his ban also stayed even though he did nothing and he didn’t get an apology either.
Well, I´ve personally taken a break from MO due to me being pissed off at cheaters I´ve run into. And here we have a guy that litterally get cought with his pants down, and he comes here to win sympathy for cheating. Wow. Just wow. I hope they perma ban you and anyone else that keep ruining the game for others. You´ve probably hurt the game more then SV ever been able to do. Cheaters to me are the lowest of low. I have zero sympathy for this kind of act. Where the hell is the fun in playing a game, and the only way to win, is to cheat? You get a freaking red card in my book every day in the week. Good work SV and I hope you´ve learned somehting from this, but reading your replies tell me your a lost cause.
While I do agree cheaters are scum that should be permabanned, you also have to remember that a poorly designed and coded game provides more opportunities to cheat. A game with amaterurish customer support and biased player GMs makes the issue even worse.
So of course, cheaters should be banned (and also named and shamed, imo), but SV has a history of very shady dealings with knowns hacks and exploits - sometimes banning random people for minor stuff, sometimes allowing well-known hackers, dupers and exploiters to come back time after time. More often than not, GMs have done nothing to prevent serious exploits (like glitching into palisades), and then interfered during sieges, giving one side unfair advantages, officially because the other side "exploited" even though that was not the case.
So yeah, cheaters harm the game, but SV harms it even more by not dealing with them in an adequate way. There will always be players who cheat, especially in competetive games like MO and it's up to the devs to do something about it. It's not like moralizing about it will make cheating go away...
I do agree that SV has been not as hard as they should have in dealing with cheaters, but i think they now have better tools in doing so compared to how it was before. So I hope they will get better, and if not, maybe the cheaters will post vids like this to give them a helping hand. :P I´ve seen cheats all over the MMO map. Even SWTOR and WoW etc has had them. But I guess it´s easier to do it in MO, or at least that it has been. And I hope they ban cheaters in every single game that cheaters get caught in.
Love how we see a long video, and then it cuts out and goes to a section where we see the banned message.
Why didn't you post the video uncut, instead of cutting out whatever happened before the ban?
Also, hit boxes are bugged when you customize your ini file resolution... it is VERY obvious that this is what you have done in your video because your arrows hit the target based on the crosshair NOT the arrow tip (not to mention the shitty quality of the video). I put the blame on SV for not having better INI file checking, and not fixing resolution issues... but a ban for this would be totally fair.
Arrow stacking is a minor issue... INI file mods are not.
So you seriously make no attempts to defend yourself? Content to just behave like a child? I think it's shocking that you're making a massive fuss over a 24 hour ban when you're not even remotely innocent of exploiting.
Originally posted by darthturtle1
Which you are one of them.
You say that accusingly as if you expect me not to openly admit to it.
But guess what, if hitting people in the back when you're infront on their screen was deemed an exploit and I got a 24 hour ban for it I sure wouldnt come and flood this forum with my tears
Originally posted by Biskop
Originally posted by Cyde77
The game itself is laggy which really means skill has little importance as the best fighters are those who know how to manipulate the prediction and if you're laggy I can only imagine it gets amplified.
This is very informative imo. One of the best-known and respected PvPers in MO states that MO's PvP requires little skill beyond effective manipulation of the game's crappy perfomance.
PvP being the sole focus of the game, one would have thought that at least it should require some degree of skill. But no, it's all about lag switching, glitching, bug exploiting and even hacking.
Let me ask you Cyde, why do you, as a PvPer, still play a game that requires no skill?
Because it isnt just one aspect of the whole MO idea that appeals to me. Besides, the prediction manipulation idea is only really of use in very small fights, i.e 1v1s, 2v2s etc, after that it really doesnt have that much involvement (in before "doesnt a 2v2 involve pretty much the entire population online at a given time? hu hu hu hu"). But yeah, I wont deny that I'll completely fuck with the prediction when fighting good players 1v1, and you can pretty much guarantee they'll do the same. And yes it does suck, because when you compare it to something as smooth as M&B combat it makes every 1v1 victory in MO feel completely hollow and worthless.
"PvP being the sole focus of the game, one would have thought that at least it should require some degree of skill. But no, it's all about lag switching, glitching, bug exploiting and even hacking."
That is an exaggeration. As I said the prediction abuse is only really prevalent in very small fights. Deliberate lag switching is very rare, "obvious" hacking too, and if there are subtle hackers out there they must be pretty bad because there really havent been many noticeably good players in this game since release. As for exploits there's always a few ingame, but they are rarely game breaking, INI file editing is still a problem though (Nightburn will confirm that, lol)
It does of course take skill in other aspects, tactical ability as well as knowing what to do and when to do it, "some" twitch skill to land hits consistently
Anyway Ive been getting a hell of a lot more fun out of BF3 and M&B lately as well as spending the majority of my time at uni, I barely play MO atm.
Originally posted by Keshanberk
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@ Cyde I did not say that you manipulate the prediction system thinking you would not admit it. You freely have admitted it. My point is that it sux someone can do that in the game.
And this whole fiasco shows that SV has no tools or craptastic tools to detect cheaters. Like i have said before they should give a free copy of fraps to every paying customer that has to be playing the whole time and is downloaded to a SV server so gms can look through them. It seems that is the only way cheaters are caught.
I do not know how many times in guilds I have been in we would have our designated frapser to catch cheaters.
So you seriously make no attempts to defend yourself? Content to just behave like a child? I think it's shocking that you're making a massive fuss over a 24 hour ban when you're not even remotely innocent of exploiting.
Originally posted by darthturtle1
Which you are one of them.
You say that accusingly as if you expect me not to openly admit to it.
But guess what, if hitting people in the back when you're infront on their screen was deemed an exploit and I got a 24 hour ban for it I sure wouldnt come and flood this forum with my tears
Originally posted by Biskop
Originally posted by Cyde77
The game itself is laggy which really means skill has little importance as the best fighters are those who know how to manipulate the prediction and if you're laggy I can only imagine it gets amplified.
This is very informative imo. One of the best-known and respected PvPers in MO states that MO's PvP requires little skill beyond effective manipulation of the game's crappy perfomance.
PvP being the sole focus of the game, one would have thought that at least it should require some degree of skill. But no, it's all about lag switching, glitching, bug exploiting and even hacking.
Let me ask you Cyde, why do you, as a PvPer, still play a game that requires no skill?
Because it isnt just one aspect of the whole MO idea that appeals to me. Besides, the prediction manipulation idea is only really of use in very small fights, i.e 1v1s, 2v2s etc, after that it really doesnt have that much involvement (in before "doesnt a 2v2 involve pretty much the entire population online at a given time? hu hu hu hu"). But yeah, I wont deny that I'll completely fuck with the prediction when fighting good players 1v1, and you can pretty much guarantee they'll do the same. And yes it does suck, because when you compare it to something as smooth as M&B combat it makes every 1v1 victory in MO feel completely hollow and worthless.
"PvP being the sole focus of the game, one would have thought that at least it should require some degree of skill. But no, it's all about lag switching, glitching, bug exploiting and even hacking."
That is an exaggeration. As I said the prediction abuse is only really prevalent in very small fights. Deliberate lag switching is very rare, "obvious" hacking too, and if there are subtle hackers out there they must be pretty bad because there really havent been many noticeably good players in this game since release. As for exploits there's always a few ingame, but they are rarely game breaking, INI file editing is still a problem though (Nightburn will confirm that, lol)
It does of course take skill in other aspects, tactical ability as well as knowing what to do and when to do it, "some" twitch skill to land hits consistently
Anyway Ive been getting a hell of a lot more fun out of BF3 and M&B lately as well as spending the majority of my time at uni, I barely play MO atm.
Originally posted by Keshanberk
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Hey Cyde, Is the shit hitting the fan?
And still... no one cared about the other player that was banned... so sad...
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nah the stars come out when its dusk also you can see the god rays still,
i have no problem with people exploiting if thats what they need to do to be viable then so be it, but when they get caught they should man up. If i was him i would be happy they kept my ban active since i just showed them evidence of exploiting un intentinally proves they are at least trying to do something against exploiters.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
I'm not an MO player, but there are alot of folks saying the player in the video never needed to reload, which they are saying is an exploit. Even if it's a bug, a bug isn't allowed to be used as a known exploit. Certainly the player in the video noticed that he never had to reload.
exactly and conveniently its like this almsot every video he posts. So the gms banned him and someone esle after the gm ingame took 5000 dmaage in 1 second until they could figure out etf happened, he posted these vids to show it wasnt him but in the process showed him exploiting so the gm kept the 24 hour ban up on him.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
i always knew you were a cheater Nightburn. just about every single time i got killed by you there was some very fishy stuff going on. the last time you killed me i was sprinting arround your horse and you kept shooting and didn't miss one arrow. as a mounted archer myself i know that basically impossible.... but, there was your horse, pivoting arround as fast as i was able to sprint arround it.
skilled my ass.....about time they got rid of you.
Well no not really
Me and Nightmare are the two AQ's who post on this forum regularly. I see no other AQs here which leads me to believe no one asked anyone to come here and pvp you
As for your comment as well as your video which proves you are infinitely better than every AQ and that they have never landed a hit on you while you take down their horses, I find it a bit lame.
Ive seen first hand that youre a good player at MO as in BRB you were one of the few who could beat me consistently in 1v1s, but in reality what exactly does it show? For starters you are Brazilian which means you lag like a bitch, which is known to be beneficial to quite an extent due to client side hit detection. The game itself is laggy which really means skill has little importance as the best fighters are those who know how to manipulate the prediction and if you're laggy I can only imagine it gets amplified.
And to reference the sun again the AQs who were fighting you at Vadda all say the sun was really bright for them so...
Also you've always been very much a play to win guy rolling FOTM setups eagerly, I mean polesword mounted archer, really? so naturally that's not going to discourage people from thinking you'll go further to win, i.e not having to reload, disabling sun, optimizing your resolution for ease of play, etc. just saying
exactly the same that happened with russian and blackmage, hell blackmage gets banned shows ia video of him with the leaves turned off, blaming aq for it when a week earlier a member of his guild was running around with a live stream and trees turnedoff. Devs fixed it blackmage gets perma banned, Hopefully your video will increase the speed at which they fix the sun issue.
think its a shame you wont be coming back to MO ever again now nightburn, even for awakening but i guess now you hate the game for banning you exploiting
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
I guess that explains much about our different opinions of the game
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Keep it ip, I like the attention. Its really fun
Which you are one of them. Master of the Cyde Shuffle!!
Hell yeah they finally nerfed mounted archery! A little too hard though... you don't have to ban someone for using it. Pewpew.. hard nerf.
Cut the crap. You are not talking to Discord or Theia and we arent all around 20s. It seems that the arrows bug happens to you very often and you are providing fact of it by posting videos. I m playing the game since day one and the arrows bug happened to me once and i had to ask around about it so dont underestimate our mentality. Your ban is well deserved and since you are repeating the same exploiting methods to get a slight advantage against the people you are griefing, you should be banned for more than 24 hours imo. You claim you are supporting the game for 2 years but the fact is that your subscription costed to them a few hundred other subs cause of your blatant, pointless griefing around Nave but i ll agree that being a prick is not enough for a ban. Exploiting sure is. Concerning the GM's not informing the player about the reasons that got him banned, have to agree with Deathshroud that is the most absurd thing i ve ever heard from a company, but i m pretty sure that is related to the fact that a major scandinavian gaming company lost in a court of law a case that a non so legitimate customer was asking for compensation because he got banned for not using so legitimate methods.
If people from AQ or anyother guild are using exploits they should be banned without second question. Now to the point that you threatning that if you are not gonna get a public apology you will start flaming the game... you really proved your value, nature and character and certainly your level on maturity. Just do us all a favour: do whatever you feel like cause you will not get a public apology from SV, so go out there and flame, shame or whatever you feel like. But stay away from the game itself cause you clearly doing only harm and no good.
I am curious to know more about this, care to share a link/name?
Glad you copied that sentence cause i saw how wrong i did spell "compensation". It was a link i ve followed years ago approximately when Age of Conan released. I m pretty sure that company was Funcom (the time was around Anarchy's Online first year) and back then they where forced to compromise with the customer. After a quick search i didnt found anything on the subject appart from that incident: http://www.gamespot.com/news/funcom-responds-to-blacksnow-dispute-2854452 which is different but has some similarities concerning the ban aspect of the case. I m sure if you have the patience to search you will get smt since i remember i ve even found back then Funcom's CEO letter apologizing to the customer that won his law suit (was funny cause same CEO was very cruel on the same guy when he first tried to contact with the company to complain about his ban). Also the company since then changed its ways and policies regarding exploit issues and ended up nowdays being totaly carebear regarding exploits and avoiding baning people even though they re blatantly exploiting regardless there are videos and screenshots proving that.
Sorry for derailing the thread. Back on topic. Enjoy your Ban Midnightseph. That will make you think twice about gaining non legitimate advantages in the next game you will play.
I watched this whole vid and read all convos and I have to symphatise with SV and their GM team for having to deal with so much crap of a humankind.
Seriously. This guy probably hasn't been out in the world for the past few years. That or he's simply young. What a cry baby. Getting a 24 hour ban and going in full QQ mode, even rushing into releasing a vid showing himself cheating (or abusing a bug, same shit).
A GM encountering something that looks like cheater should always IMMIDIATELY take measures. Obviously a loose hacker can potentialy do much much bigger damage, making many more people quit.
Any normal player should be able to realise this and patiently wait for the better of the game. And than after ban is lifted and innocence proven should he take meassures if he doesn't get reimbursed for 24 hours of playtime.
But it seems like he is just desperate for attention. And he demands it NOW. Only one GM has spoken to him! I mean ONLY one, how dare they!!
And everyone MUST realise he is innocent in the next minute vid was released! Or else..!
24 hour ban stays, due to cheating revealed provided by cheater alone (yes, making use of a bug is cheating even if a bug appears unintended). And than he quits. Now that's a hurt gamers ego right there.
What is very interesting to me though is how absolutely no one asked about the other guy who got banned. The video proved that neither of us did what we were accused of in the first place. They try to justify my ban using my video. What about the other guy though? Unfortunately his ban also stayed even though he did nothing and he didn’t get an apology either.
Well, I´ve personally taken a break from MO due to me being pissed off at cheaters I´ve run into. And here we have a guy that litterally get cought with his pants down, and he comes here to win sympathy for cheating. Wow. Just wow. I hope they perma ban you and anyone else that keep ruining the game for others. You´ve probably hurt the game more then SV ever been able to do. Cheaters to me are the lowest of low. I have zero sympathy for this kind of act. Where the hell is the fun in playing a game, and the only way to win, is to cheat? You get a freaking red card in my book every day in the week. Good work SV and I hope you´ve learned somehting from this, but reading your replies tell me your a lost cause.
While I do agree cheaters are scum that should be permabanned, you also have to remember that a poorly designed and coded game provides more opportunities to cheat. A game with amaterurish customer support and biased player GMs makes the issue even worse.
So of course, cheaters should be banned (and also named and shamed, imo), but SV has a history of very shady dealings with knowns hacks and exploits - sometimes banning random people for minor stuff, sometimes allowing well-known hackers, dupers and exploiters to come back time after time. More often than not, GMs have done nothing to prevent serious exploits (like glitching into palisades), and then interfered during sieges, giving one side unfair advantages, officially because the other side "exploited" even though that was not the case.
So yeah, cheaters harm the game, but SV harms it even more by not dealing with them in an adequate way. There will always be players who cheat, especially in competetive games like MO and it's up to the devs to do something about it. It's not like moralizing about it will make cheating go away...
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I do agree that SV has been not as hard as they should have in dealing with cheaters, but i think they now have better tools in doing so compared to how it was before. So I hope they will get better, and if not, maybe the cheaters will post vids like this to give them a helping hand. :P I´ve seen cheats all over the MMO map. Even SWTOR and WoW etc has had them. But I guess it´s easier to do it in MO, or at least that it has been. And I hope they ban cheaters in every single game that cheaters get caught in.
Love how we see a long video, and then it cuts out and goes to a section where we see the banned message.
Why didn't you post the video uncut, instead of cutting out whatever happened before the ban?
Also, hit boxes are bugged when you customize your ini file resolution... it is VERY obvious that this is what you have done in your video because your arrows hit the target based on the crosshair NOT the arrow tip (not to mention the shitty quality of the video). I put the blame on SV for not having better INI file checking, and not fixing resolution issues... but a ban for this would be totally fair.
Arrow stacking is a minor issue... INI file mods are not.
So you seriously make no attempts to defend yourself? Content to just behave like a child? I think it's shocking that you're making a massive fuss over a 24 hour ban when you're not even remotely innocent of exploiting.
You say that accusingly as if you expect me not to openly admit to it.
But guess what, if hitting people in the back when you're infront on their screen was deemed an exploit and I got a 24 hour ban for it I sure wouldnt come and flood this forum with my tears
Because it isnt just one aspect of the whole MO idea that appeals to me. Besides, the prediction manipulation idea is only really of use in very small fights, i.e 1v1s, 2v2s etc, after that it really doesnt have that much involvement (in before "doesnt a 2v2 involve pretty much the entire population online at a given time? hu hu hu hu"). But yeah, I wont deny that I'll completely fuck with the prediction when fighting good players 1v1, and you can pretty much guarantee they'll do the same. And yes it does suck, because when you compare it to something as smooth as M&B combat it makes every 1v1 victory in MO feel completely hollow and worthless.
"PvP being the sole focus of the game, one would have thought that at least it should require some degree of skill. But no, it's all about lag switching, glitching, bug exploiting and even hacking."
That is an exaggeration. As I said the prediction abuse is only really prevalent in very small fights. Deliberate lag switching is very rare, "obvious" hacking too, and if there are subtle hackers out there they must be pretty bad because there really havent been many noticeably good players in this game since release. As for exploits there's always a few ingame, but they are rarely game breaking, INI file editing is still a problem though (Nightburn will confirm that, lol)
It does of course take skill in other aspects, tactical ability as well as knowing what to do and when to do it, "some" twitch skill to land hits consistently
Anyway Ive been getting a hell of a lot more fun out of BF3 and M&B lately as well as spending the majority of my time at uni, I barely play MO atm.
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@ Cyde I did not say that you manipulate the prediction system thinking you would not admit it. You freely have admitted it. My point is that it sux someone can do that in the game.
And this whole fiasco shows that SV has no tools or craptastic tools to detect cheaters. Like i have said before they should give a free copy of fraps to every paying customer that has to be playing the whole time and is downloaded to a SV server so gms can look through them. It seems that is the only way cheaters are caught.
I do not know how many times in guilds I have been in we would have our designated frapser to catch cheaters.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
Hey Cyde, Is the shit hitting the fan?
And still... no one cared about the other player that was banned... so sad...