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PREDICTION! TERA F2P 3mo after Gw2

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  • Sector13Sector13 Member UncommonPosts: 784

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Originally posted by Arcona

    Best thing about Tera is the combat

    here is Guild Wars 2 combat

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4

    Looks like Guild wars 2 gives Tera a close fight in that area :)

    No not even close, its still targeted combat with much more freedom in movement. if you notice you can move way in middle of attack and you can see the sword just hitting empty air yet ir still register as a hit. Just like most tab target mmorpg once the skill/attack goes off you can't dodge it unless you use a dodge skill. Tera there are hit boxes where if you don't reach teh hitbox its not a hit. GW2 is dynamic combat, a more polished up verison of tab target combat system you have, not where is it near the hack and slash of Tera's action combat. But if thats what you perfer than more power to you.

    There are clearly parts of the video where the attack will miss just by being a little out of the way, so there is some type of hitbox in the game. Also, there were hits where it hit multiple enemies while only one was targetted, another sign of hitboxes. I personally prefer GW2s combat over TERA cause GW2s combat is at least of a decent speed. TERA combat is more like for new players to action games.

  • SagasaintSagasaint Member UncommonPosts: 466

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Problem with F2P is that so far almost no company has ever done it right, they all start out ok and after few year let greed get better of them and make the game P2W. 

    and you still hasnt realized why's that?

     

    the F2P model is inherently cannibalistic. players can hop at the drop of a hat to try the new kid on the block constantly. there is simply no way to stop them since the entry level fees dont exist.

    the more free games release, the more cutthroating the market becomes, and the most they have to monetize their players in order to survive.

    and funny enough, the more y

    ou try to monetize your playerbase, the most people leaves because "the game went pay to win", and they will hop to the new free game that just released, which in 6mo/1year will find itself in the same situation and will have to start "forcing" their players to spend to get some profits.

    rinse, repeat. 

     

    the F2P model is a bubble worse than the housing bubble, and its getting closer and closer to burst as days go by and more games turn to F2P.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Originally posted by Sector13

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    There are clearly parts of the video where the attack will miss just by being a little out of the way, so there is some type of hitbox in the game. Also, there were hits where it hit multiple enemies while only one was targetted, another sign of hitboxes. I personally prefer GW2s combat over TERA cause GW2s combat is at least of a decent speed. TERA combat is more like for new players to action games.

    Regarding combat speed, are you talking from experience?

    From what I've seen from videos, the combat of GW2 and TSW seem very similar. Tera's combat is something entirely different to the MMOs released so far. It's not just the tab-less system, it's mainly because they managed to get my eyes off the quicbar and the healthbars (when I'm a healer) and directly into the action. No MMORPG has managed to do that until now. The best they could managed was me spamming the key so it fires off the moment it was off cooldown.

    I'm hopeful that GW2 has managed to capture the same feeling regarding combat, allowing me to direct my abilities by just looking at the action. I do reserve the right for an opinion though until after I played the game, unlike all those hopeful people who try real hard to convince us about the validity of their argument, without having any personal experience.

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by Sector13

    Originally posted by rexzshadow


    Originally posted by Arcona

    Best thing about Tera is the combat

    here is Guild Wars 2 combat

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4

    Looks like Guild wars 2 gives Tera a close fight in that area :)

    No not even close, its still targeted combat with much more freedom in movement. if you notice you can move way in middle of attack and you can see the sword just hitting empty air yet ir still register as a hit. Just like most tab target mmorpg once the skill/attack goes off you can't dodge it unless you use a dodge skill. Tera there are hit boxes where if you don't reach teh hitbox its not a hit. GW2 is dynamic combat, a more polished up verison of tab target combat system you have, not where is it near the hack and slash of Tera's action combat. But if thats what you perfer than more power to you.

    There are clearly parts of the video where the attack will miss just by being a little out of the way, so there is some type of hitbox in the game. Also, there were hits where it hit multiple enemies while only one was targetted, another sign of hitboxes. I personally prefer GW2s combat over TERA cause GW2s combat is at least of a decent speed. TERA combat is more like for new players to action games.

    GW2 combat

    This video clearly show an auto lock on for ranged class. But since almost no one has played GW2 yet we will see once Beta comes out, but from what i see its not remotely close to any action games.

  • XirikXirik Member UncommonPosts: 440

    I don't know why this thread isn't locked yet.

    All its turned into is gw2 fanboys showing videos about how "awesome" a game that they haven't played. I do believe they have there own forum for that?

    "You have some serious mental issues you may need to seek some help for. There are others who post things, but do not post them in the way you do. Out of every person who posts crazy shit in this forum, you have some of the craziest and scariest" -FarReach

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    If only all games could run this good:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3pnSpgLNE&feature=related  Not bad for an open world, free aim, collision detection game.

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  • Sector13Sector13 Member UncommonPosts: 784

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    If only all games could run this good:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3pnSpgLNE&feature=related  Not bad for an open world, free aim, collision detection game.

    People used to show off how great mass PvP was in Warhammer then 2 months after release it became worthless. People will complain that people are overhyping GW2, which is true, but it's not like TERA is any different. Just because there is no tab targetting and uses hit boxes doesn't always mean the combat is better in the long run or that people wont get bored of it.

  • synnsynn Member UncommonPosts: 563

    i seriously doubt tera will go f2p within the first year of release. I do think that the region bans will be lifted within the first three months though since the only numbers that matter from a business standpoint is the amount of paid subscribers they have and with region bans implemented they are probably losing a hefty amount of possible subscribers that consist of military, DoD employees, contractors, civilians that work or go to achool in those areas, and of course their family members.

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