What about chrono scrolls, for the cheapos under us?
You'd be playing for free.
Chronoscrolls wont save TERA. Anyone who takes the 10 mins to realize the differences between a themepark MMO vs EVE Online would show the huge flaws in the system.
What about chrono scrolls, for the cheapos under us?
You'd be playing for free.
Chronoscrolls wont save TERA. Anyone who takes the 10 mins to realize the differences between a themepark MMO vs EVE Online would show the huge flaws in the system.
Tera don't need to be saved. even as a closed beta stage, it is way more fun than every other MMO on the market! and believe me, im not the only person who thinks that.
and there are tons of content waiting to be implemented still. im afraid all the doomsayers will be very dissapointed to see their wishes won't come true.
What about chrono scrolls, for the cheapos under us?
You'd be playing for free.
Chronoscrolls wont save TERA. Anyone who takes the 10 mins to realize the differences between a themepark MMO vs EVE Online would show the huge flaws in the system.
Tera don't need to be saved. even as a closed beta stage, it is way more fun than every other MMO on the market! and believe me, im not the only person who thinks that.
and there are tons of content waiting to be implemented still. im afraid all the doomsayers will be very dissapointed to see their wishes won't come true.
I usually don't agree with doomsayers but since Tera lost most of its servers in Korea i have no idea what miracle updates they did to game to make certain that similar thing won't happen in west? considering players in west are the most jaded and hard to please.
I see what the OP is saying but I disagree about the ranking. TERA is every bit a AAA MMO concerning quality of development. Popularity has nothing to do with it IMO as it can be easily swayed by regional bias and advertising.
Of course you can get more people to join if you lower the price. What you get for it can be worse though, depending on how many people you're forecasted to gain. I'm reminded of the motto of f2p conversion: "I'll play it if it's free" is soon followed by "I can't even do this without paying, what a ripoff!".
People want to pay as least they can for what they want and nobody can blame them. Shrewd spending is great. You still get what you pay for. GW2 will be great, I'm assured of it and for the sake of those excited I hope it is. It's B2P however. How many additions to the game are you likely to see until the next expansion releases? Not bug fixes, actual game content. That's okay though because your not playing 15/mo. Your getting what you pay for.
TERA is more than worth 15/mo to me due to it's quality and EME. I have never felt better about giving a company my money. They have made all the right moves and I believe that the money will be put to good use.
I was looking forward to giving it a go since the combat is a bit of a change from what I am used to, but after playing the few CBs I just don't see myself paying the box price + sub for the game. It's a shame, but in my opinion it isn't worth the money. I'm always glad some people find new games that they can enjoy but this one isn't for me.
I just don't find it worth the money. To be honest I didn't even feel the urge to log in more than twice this past weekend for the test.
I was looking forward to giving it a go since the combat is a bit of a change from what I am used to, but after playing the few CBs I just don't see myself paying the box price + sub for the game. It's a shame, but in my opinion it isn't worth the money. I'm always glad some people find new games that they can enjoy but this one isn't for me.
I just don't find it worth the money. To be honest I didn't even feel the urge to log in more than twice this past weekend for the test.
hopefully you ll find a MMO according to your taste.
is hard to get attached to a character you know will be wiped at the end of open beta, and this is closed beta still. so basically i don't blame you for not wanting to login more.
in my case, what i do with every closed beta weekend. is to test new classes up untill level 20. that gives you plenty of time, to decide wich class is best for you.
Tera has fairly fun combat though it feels a bit clunky to use the interface and the graphics are fair. Monster design and scripting is very good and fresh, BUT questing is the most dull tokenexcuse to kill X critters I have seen since lineag II. Overall it feels like a really really good f2p. I could maybe see myself paying $9 to keep it for a secondary game when I feel like more action, but with no real draw to the quests it holds no great intrest for me. If I wanted an action game there are tons of choices out there and most are free
Tera questing, is about the same as Wow. and guess what sugar? wow is still the king of MMO. so they most it done something right, despite the old fashioned quest system to appeal to so many people.
if quests are your prime focus in a MMO. i suggest you to try Swtor. not other MMO can beat Swtor as far questing goes.
i played swtor since beta, day one. and just canceled my subscription a few days ago. i feel like a broken record but will tell you something. i've had way more fun playing Tera closed beta weekends. than the entire time i played Swtor.
bottom line is. it all comes down to preferences. what you may like, others will hate. and viceversa.
kinda like maplestory or runescape, its kinda you love it or hate it thing, some how there is no middle ground.....
Originally posted by Nadya3
Originally posted by Xasapis
Oups, big edit and you were too fast
See above your post
lol i know!p i'm a one fast cookie i tell ya!p
the funny thing is, i basically learned to type while playing MMO!p
actually i think the Hybrid approach ain't too bad
Lol same i learn typing from runescape, after realising that people don't wait for shit i learn to type very very very fast XD
Also open Beta isn't wiped, only close Beta is at least thats for NA. For EU both are wiped.
Honestly I'd argue that price very rarely affects the sales of MMO's.
IMO MMO's aren't like other games. When most people plan to buy a MMO it's a long term commitment unlike other games in which you plan to beat the main campaign and be done. In MMO's you plan to spend months if not years building your characters and interacting with the world/players. Because of this I think people are much less likely to factore price into the purchasing desicion because the price vs amount of entertainment ration of MMO's far excede any other genre as long as you actually enjoy the game.
That leads me to the beleif that the most important factor in a MMO's success is the players enjoyment, not cost (though cost does obviously become a factor if the players enjoyment is down).
Its not? I could swear the game playing it felt more AAA then ToR did... but maybe its just me. According to the OP, there apparently are absolutely 0 AAA games if Tera would not qualify as one.
No, I'm not saying its perfect by far, but considering its attempt to push action oriented combat and all, its far from being degraded in its 'value'. For me, looking at what it offers, it outclass ToR vastly. It might not be perfect but at least it tried some bit of originality in pushing a genre for MMos and pushing in a new era of more 'action oriented' gameplay.
Honestly I'd argue that price very rarely affects the sales of MMO's.
IMO MMO's aren't like other games. When most people plan to buy a MMO it's a long term commitment unlike other games in which you plan to beat the main campaign and be done. In MMO's you plan to spend months if not years building your characters and interacting with the world/players. Because of this I think people are much less likely to factore price into the purchasing desicion because the price vs amount of entertainment ration of MMO's far excede any other genre as long as you actually enjoy the game.
That leads me to the beleif that the most important factor in a MMO's success is the players enjoyment, not cost (though cost does obviously become a factor if the players enjoyment is down).
Honestly mmos are cheap compare to single player games, i mean 60 bucks for a singler player game thats last maybe 60-100hrs? Or mmorpg with 50 dollar first month and 15 dollar a month and you can get 60 dollar a month if you only play 2hr a day avg. Yes mmorpg is a long term thing, honestly its hella lot cheaper than buying singler play game people do. Aside from sandbox game like skyrim where you can play endless lot of game have set story and once your done your pretty much done for most peole. Its lot more expansive compare to the time you get out of mmorpg yet no one seem to complain about that.
Honestly mmos are cheap compare to single player games, i mean 60 bucks for a singler player game thats last maybe 60-100hrs? Or mmorpg with 50 dollar first month and 15 dollar a month and you can get 60 dollar a month if you only play 2hr a day avg. Yes mmorpg is a long term thing, honestly its hella lot cheaper than buying singler play game people do. Aside from sandbox game like skyrim where you can play endless lot of game have set story and once your done your pretty much done for most peole. Its lot more expansive compare to the time you get out of mmorpg yet no one seem to complain about that.
People are just quick to hate on things, you buy the game for set price and you get a month free, the sub is optional.
People buy a game like Skyrim, GTA, Kingdoms of Amalur, Zelda and rarely play it longer than a month, once you beat them their is no replayability, you get bored, theres nothing to do.
In that free month on an MMO I could get ...155 hours of playtime i'm sure as five hours a day is no stretch for me. I logged 40 hours in the three days for the Beta this weekend lmao.
That 40 hours in three days and I would have been pretty much done with Skyrim, although I could never play Skyrim for that long, being unable to interact with people is awful.
Originally posted by Sorrow As I have stated in the past Tera is not a horrible game, however, it is also not a great game. Tera is a A, possibly a AA title, but what is is not is a AAA title. Sadly Enmasse has chosen to set a pricepoint based on a AAA market. There are professionals called Costers, their whole job is to independently analysis markets, look at production and maintance costs, and determine the right pricepoint for a product. Based on the fact many AAA titles are releasing this year, many AAA titles are going F2P, and many F2P titles as good if not better than Tera are coming to market, Tera's failure, or rather the failure of Enmasse's business managers is in setting an unrealistic pricepoint. If you intend to sell an economy product you must charge an economy price. You can not sell us a KIA and charge us for a BMW, the market just won't accept it. I am far from an expert Coster, but I do have many years experience on both sides of the industry. IMO, Tera should be coming in around $25 standard, $35 deluxe, $45 CE, with a $6.99 subscription. If Enmasse was realistic and had the experience to set a reasonable pricepoint, Tera would have a much greater chance of carving out a small slice of a very competitive and fickle market. Problem is most game developers have these massive EGO's and think their game is the best game ever, hard to get men like that to ever be reasonable.
Reminds me of hollywood accounting and their pathologic fear of anyone else breaking into the market. Whether or not it's A/AA/AAA is a subjective issue, not an objective one ;p
Strange that the simple concept of supply and demand still eludes so many people.
Comments
Chronoscrolls wont save TERA. Anyone who takes the 10 mins to realize the differences between a themepark MMO vs EVE Online would show the huge flaws in the system.
Tera don't need to be saved. even as a closed beta stage, it is way more fun than every other MMO on the market! and believe me, im not the only person who thinks that.
and there are tons of content waiting to be implemented still. im afraid all the doomsayers will be very dissapointed to see their wishes won't come true.
I usually don't agree with doomsayers but since Tera lost most of its servers in Korea i have no idea what miracle updates they did to game to make certain that similar thing won't happen in west? considering players in west are the most jaded and hard to please.
Of course you can get more people to join if you lower the price. What you get for it can be worse though, depending on how many people you're forecasted to gain. I'm reminded of the motto of f2p conversion: "I'll play it if it's free" is soon followed by "I can't even do this without paying, what a ripoff!".
People want to pay as least they can for what they want and nobody can blame them. Shrewd spending is great. You still get what you pay for. GW2 will be great, I'm assured of it and for the sake of those excited I hope it is. It's B2P however. How many additions to the game are you likely to see until the next expansion releases? Not bug fixes, actual game content. That's okay though because your not playing 15/mo. Your getting what you pay for.
TERA is more than worth 15/mo to me due to it's quality and EME. I have never felt better about giving a company my money. They have made all the right moves and I believe that the money will be put to good use.
Just not worth my time anymore.
I was looking forward to giving it a go since the combat is a bit of a change from what I am used to, but after playing the few CBs I just don't see myself paying the box price + sub for the game. It's a shame, but in my opinion it isn't worth the money. I'm always glad some people find new games that they can enjoy but this one isn't for me.
I just don't find it worth the money. To be honest I didn't even feel the urge to log in more than twice this past weekend for the test.
hopefully you ll find a MMO according to your taste.
is hard to get attached to a character you know will be wiped at the end of open beta, and this is closed beta still. so basically i don't blame you for not wanting to login more.
in my case, what i do with every closed beta weekend. is to test new classes up untill level 20. that gives you plenty of time, to decide wich class is best for you.
kinda like maplestory or runescape, its kinda you love it or hate it thing, some how there is no middle ground.....
Lol same i learn typing from runescape, after realising that people don't wait for shit i learn to type very very very fast XD
Also open Beta isn't wiped, only close Beta is at least thats for NA. For EU both are wiped.
Honestly I'd argue that price very rarely affects the sales of MMO's.
IMO MMO's aren't like other games. When most people plan to buy a MMO it's a long term commitment unlike other games in which you plan to beat the main campaign and be done. In MMO's you plan to spend months if not years building your characters and interacting with the world/players. Because of this I think people are much less likely to factore price into the purchasing desicion because the price vs amount of entertainment ration of MMO's far excede any other genre as long as you actually enjoy the game.
That leads me to the beleif that the most important factor in a MMO's success is the players enjoyment, not cost (though cost does obviously become a factor if the players enjoyment is down).
Its not? I could swear the game playing it felt more AAA then ToR did... but maybe its just me. According to the OP, there apparently are absolutely 0 AAA games if Tera would not qualify as one.
No, I'm not saying its perfect by far, but considering its attempt to push action oriented combat and all, its far from being degraded in its 'value'. For me, looking at what it offers, it outclass ToR vastly. It might not be perfect but at least it tried some bit of originality in pushing a genre for MMos and pushing in a new era of more 'action oriented' gameplay.
Honestly mmos are cheap compare to single player games, i mean 60 bucks for a singler player game thats last maybe 60-100hrs? Or mmorpg with 50 dollar first month and 15 dollar a month and you can get 60 dollar a month if you only play 2hr a day avg. Yes mmorpg is a long term thing, honestly its hella lot cheaper than buying singler play game people do. Aside from sandbox game like skyrim where you can play endless lot of game have set story and once your done your pretty much done for most peole. Its lot more expansive compare to the time you get out of mmorpg yet no one seem to complain about that.
People are just quick to hate on things, you buy the game for set price and you get a month free, the sub is optional.
People buy a game like Skyrim, GTA, Kingdoms of Amalur, Zelda and rarely play it longer than a month, once you beat them their is no replayability, you get bored, theres nothing to do.
In that free month on an MMO I could get ...155 hours of playtime i'm sure as five hours a day is no stretch for me. I logged 40 hours in the three days for the Beta this weekend lmao.
That 40 hours in three days and I would have been pretty much done with Skyrim, although I could never play Skyrim for that long, being unable to interact with people is awful.
Reminds me of hollywood accounting and their pathologic fear of anyone else breaking into the market. Whether or not it's A/AA/AAA is a subjective issue, not an objective one ;p
Strange that the simple concept of supply and demand still eludes so many people.
Playing: WF
Played: WoW, GW2, L2, WAR, AoC, DnL (2005), GW, LotRO, EQ2, TOR, CoH (RIP), STO, TSW, TERA, EVE, ESO, BDO
Tried: EQ, UO, AO, EnB, TCoS, Fury, Ryzom, EU, DDO, TR, RF, CO, Aion, VG, DN, Vindictus, AA