Had the synthesis ending, for me it was an epic end to one of the best trilogy ever made...hell i had tears coming down when Shepard sacrificed himself and unleashed his energy.
If your scores are high enough then you choose destruction just to see what it did and right after thought this.
WHY the Shep breathing end ONLY happens when you choose the 'destroy' option?
I've already tried control and synthesis with the same save file, and didnt happened...
Thats intriguing to me, despite all indoc/hallucination theories..
What do you guys think about this?"
What's going on at this point? Who knows. It's hard to believe that they made such a great game/games then dropped the ball in the last 20 minutes. I think it's all planned (ending dlc). I don't think Bioware expected this sort of reaction from their playerbase, which caught them off-guard.
Now that is intriguing...I read up on a few of the possible theories and indoctrination explains it best. It would've made sense if shepard was breathing on the citadel, but on earth it's kind of messed up.
Edit: Also, Shepard himself is part-synthetic like the kid mentions yet he lives?
I'm curious if there is anything special about the "gift" Liara gives you before the main push to the citadel beam. She does something weird with your mind, i wonder if this is something that can be lent towards the indoc/hallucination theory.
Are you referring to her sharing her memories with you? I honestly don't think that is the case, as she does it to you before Mass effect 3 as well when she is the one looking at your memories.
I been playing Bioware games a looooooong time (haven't played ME3 yet) and I think the problem might be the disconnect between the hype of Bioware's famous 'choices' and the reality that there isn't much real choice. Clearly given all the build up and potential options from 3 games worth of minutia and impact they'd led people to think they'd have, there was no way they were going to be able to provide the number of ending to satisfy many people. So they opted for displeasing everyone the same way.
I been playing Bioware games a looooooong time (haven't played ME3 yet) and I think the problem might be the disconnect between the hype of Bioware's famous 'choices' and the reality that there isn't much real choice. Clearly given all the build up and potential options from 3 games worth of minutia and impact they'd led people to think they'd have, there was no way they were going to be able to provide the number of ending to satisfy many people. So they opted for displeasing everyone the same way.
I don't think that's it, at least not entirely. There was a fundamental disconnect with the ending. I finished the game about 4 days ago, and I've since read countless essays and watched about a dozen fan reactions filmed as the closing credits were rolling, and I've noticed the same pall hanging over just about everyone that I saw in myself. The game underwent a radical narrative shift right at the end that had the effect of heightening emotions to a fever pitch and then utterly failing to provide any catharsis. As a result, people were just left holding this frustration without any place to put it.
When you cause reactions like that in your fans, you've definitely done something terribly wrong. Those aren't the sullen faces of Twilight teens upset about Jacob or Edward, those are dedicated gamers who look like they're suffering from shellshock because the game drove them up to an emotional peak and then just left them standing there. I'm sure you're right, Paradigm68, the ending was almost certainly intended to be open to interpretation so that players could "fill it in for themselves," but it really did fail pretty spectacularly in that regard.
I realize the core user base of this site is more likely to call those guys "emo" than it is to identify with them, but I think that's doing them a disservice. The one quality I'd ascribe to all of them is "sincere." Those are guys who play Gears of War, and they're so upset they can barely make eye contact with the camera. Their frustration and disappointment is palpable, and it's exactly the same thing I felt. It's also why the BioWare Social Network's poll looks like this:
Endings suck, we want a brighter one.
91%(51344 votes)
Endings are fine, we just want the Normandy strand on Earth or somewhere near Shepard.
6%(3621 votes)
Fine as it is.
2%(1178 votes)
Even if you conclude that the votes come from a heavily biased sample group, those numbers are staggering. Attack of the Show on G4 has their poll looking like this:
Poll: Did you like Mass Effect 3's ending?
Not at all! - 71.7%
I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 3.7%
I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 8.3%
I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 16.3%
One has to assume that at least a portion of that 16.3% is going to end up in the top category, and the trends are similar in most other polls. Granted, there's statistical bias all over the place, since passionate detractors will probably vote multiple times in multiple polls, but the sheer ratio of negative to positive is hard to ignore. If you're one of the people who liked the ending, you now have semi-statistical proof that you really aren't like everybody else. Take some screenshots and get some t-shirts made.
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Now that is intriguing...I read up on a few of the possible theories and indoctrination explains it best. It would've made sense if shepard was breathing on the citadel, but on earth it's kind of messed up.
Edit: Also, Shepard himself is part-synthetic like the kid mentions yet he lives?
Are you referring to her sharing her memories with you? I honestly don't think that is the case, as she does it to you before Mass effect 3 as well when she is the one looking at your memories.
I been playing Bioware games a looooooong time (haven't played ME3 yet) and I think the problem might be the disconnect between the hype of Bioware's famous 'choices' and the reality that there isn't much real choice. Clearly given all the build up and potential options from 3 games worth of minutia and impact they'd led people to think they'd have, there was no way they were going to be able to provide the number of ending to satisfy many people. So they opted for displeasing everyone the same way.
http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/
That about sums up my thoughts on the matter.
I don't think that's it, at least not entirely. There was a fundamental disconnect with the ending. I finished the game about 4 days ago, and I've since read countless essays and watched about a dozen fan reactions filmed as the closing credits were rolling, and I've noticed the same pall hanging over just about everyone that I saw in myself. The game underwent a radical narrative shift right at the end that had the effect of heightening emotions to a fever pitch and then utterly failing to provide any catharsis. As a result, people were just left holding this frustration without any place to put it.
***Major Spoilers*** involved in all of these:
One of the more interesting essays on why the ending caused such a disconnect: http://www.themetagames.com/2012/03/why-you-enjoy-art-and-one-problem-with.html (The grammar and writing aren't the best, but the author makes a fairly convincing argument).
Some YouTube videos that demonstrate the "pall" I was referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NYjatgfMos&feature=g-like&context=G2390c58ALT2WEQwACAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yvCugEpZ-Q&feature=g-like&context=G2d972bdALT2WEQwABAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJAWHAd0lKo&feature=g-like&context=G2ff43a8ALT2WEQwAAAA
When you cause reactions like that in your fans, you've definitely done something terribly wrong. Those aren't the sullen faces of Twilight teens upset about Jacob or Edward, those are dedicated gamers who look like they're suffering from shellshock because the game drove them up to an emotional peak and then just left them standing there. I'm sure you're right, Paradigm68, the ending was almost certainly intended to be open to interpretation so that players could "fill it in for themselves," but it really did fail pretty spectacularly in that regard.
I realize the core user base of this site is more likely to call those guys "emo" than it is to identify with them, but I think that's doing them a disservice. The one quality I'd ascribe to all of them is "sincere." Those are guys who play Gears of War, and they're so upset they can barely make eye contact with the camera. Their frustration and disappointment is palpable, and it's exactly the same thing I felt. It's also why the BioWare Social Network's poll looks like this:
Endings suck, we want a brighter one.
91%(51344 votes)
Endings are fine, we just want the Normandy strand on Earth or somewhere near Shepard.
6%(3621 votes)
Fine as it is.
2%(1178 votes)
Even if you conclude that the votes come from a heavily biased sample group, those numbers are staggering. Attack of the Show on G4 has their poll looking like this:
Poll: Did you like Mass Effect 3's ending?
Not at all! - 71.7%
I did. It had the closure the series needed. - 3.7%
I'm not sure how to feel about the ending. - 8.3%
I haven't beaten it yet!!! - 16.3%
One has to assume that at least a portion of that 16.3% is going to end up in the top category, and the trends are similar in most other polls. Granted, there's statistical bias all over the place, since passionate detractors will probably vote multiple times in multiple polls, but the sheer ratio of negative to positive is hard to ignore. If you're one of the people who liked the ending, you now have semi-statistical proof that you really aren't like everybody else. Take some screenshots and get some t-shirts made.