Looks like a Microtransaction blog from Anet is coming

MwynForever

Originally posted by GeeTeeEffOh

Originally posted by MwynForever

Originally posted by kadepsyson

Originally posted by MwynForever

Originally posted by DJJazzy

Equal in what way? You can't buy power

Nope and you can't buy skill either

Two equal skilled players.

One spends a ton of real money on gems, converts gems to gold, buys better equipment than the other player.

Game over.

There will never be a killer weapon/set of armor in this game that will over ride ability, forward thinking and reaction to situations. Wrong game.

Everyone thinks Cash Shops are ONLY about gear.....

They aren't

The danger is in the "Meta-Game" What kind of indirect influence will the cash shop have on the overall community as a whole? It' s less about individual players and more about the playerbase at large.

I agree. We'll see how that pans out I guess. If gold is hard to get, you may well have a very difficult time converting those gems to anything in game anyway. For me at any rate it's a good thing. I won't have to worry about trying to convince my hubby that ALL of my cute dresses came with ONE purchase. Thus far in GW1, I have not been rumbled!

MwynForever

Originally posted by mazut

TBH the only downside I see is the hole in the economy that players who pay with money will have advantage over the rest. Can speculate and drop or rise the prices.

True. If you think about it, there will probably always be more people who don't purchase gems then those that do. It is up to the players who do NOT who actually go out and make the gold in game to set the worth of those gems right?

Ezhae

Originally posted by mazut

TBH the only downside I see is the hole in the economy that players who pay with money will have advantage over the rest. Can speculate and drop or rise the prices.

Well I suppose if They go the way of EVE's PLEX'es the convertion rate of Gems:Gold will be based on supply and demand. If the market get's flooded with gems their price will go down rather than remain static. It's pretty much best way to keep the economy going with controlled RMT system. 

mazut

Originally posted by RobertDinh

It doesn't matter if you can't buy power directly, you can buy power through what parts of the game you can play, we all known DLCs are coming, now anet can sell dungeons without feeling guilty because they will justify it by saying players who don't wanna pay rl money can play enough to get enough gems to get the DLC. 

 

Also to the person that mentioned ncsoft, you are damn straight it is ncsoft.  This news is coming from mike obrien himself, do you think his underlings devised this?  No it is above his head, and who is above his head?  The parent company. 

 

But anyone with a clue how businesses work knew that ncsoft had power over anet, only the fanbois thought that ncsoft would have zero impact on an anet developed game. 

We dont know, dont rely on rumors. And I hope you are not right, cus what you say is always an option.

mazut

Originally posted by Ezhae

Originally posted by mazut

TBH the only downside I see is the hole in the economy that players who pay with money will have advantage over the rest. Can speculate and drop or rise the prices.

Well I suppose if They go the way of EVE's PLEX'es the convertion rate of Gems:Gold will be based on supply and demand. If the market get's flooded with gems their price will go down rather than remain static. It's pretty much best way to keep the economy going with controlled RMT system. 

This is the natural way. I recently started playing AION and there you can buy 30days veteran(dont know the name) item that convert you from F2P to full for 30 days. When I asked around all said that the prices dropped drasticly, cus the marked is full of it. Exactly the outcome that you susspect.

DJJazzy

Originally posted by Ezhae

Originally posted by mazut

TBH the only downside I see is the hole in the economy that players who pay with money will have advantage over the rest. Can speculate and drop or rise the prices.

Well I suppose if They go the way of EVE's PLEX'es the convertion rate of Gems:Gold will be based on supply and demand. If the market get's flooded with gems their price will go down rather than remain static. It's pretty much best way to keep the economy going with controlled RMT system. 

Aye. There is no influx of gold from an NPC, it's all player driven.

GeeTeeEffOh

Here's the other thing that gets me.

Again, when FunCom announced they were implementing their Cas Shop. they said

"Our focus will be on social items"

Well. pardon me, but WTF does that mean?

You are still selling PVP gear and things tha tcan be resold for large ingame profits.

So what if you "focus" on social items. Who cares? You players are still buying the other stuff?

It's more about what the PLAYERS focus on. Not the company. It's just another twist on words. 

While I have no experience with ANet, I can say I have played a few other games from NC-Soft. So, 

We'll see I guess.

BilboDoggins

Since gear stat-wise is basically eqivelent I dont really care in that regard.

 

HOWEVER. If they start selling hard mode dungeon armors and rarer cosmetics which take "skill" and time to acquire I'm gone. THAT is Pay 2 win anyway you shake it.

 

What scares me is that because the game touts equipment as really only being cosmetic (which is not a bad idea in and of itself) this now allows them to make the argument that selling any piece of equipment is fine because technically it provides no advantages. This is what concerns me. Lets hope it doesnt end up being true.

RobertDinh

Originally posted by mazut

Originally posted by RobertDinh

It doesn't matter if you can't buy power directly, you can buy power through what parts of the game you can play, we all known DLCs are coming, now anet can sell dungeons without feeling guilty because they will justify it by saying players who don't wanna pay rl money can play enough to get enough gems to get the DLC. 

 

Also to the person that mentioned ncsoft, you are damn straight it is ncsoft.  This news is coming from mike obrien himself, do you think his underlings devised this?  No it is above his head, and who is above his head?  The parent company. 

 

But anyone with a clue how businesses work knew that ncsoft had power over anet, only the fanbois thought that ncsoft would have zero impact on an anet developed game. 

We dont know, dont rely on rumors. And I hope you are not right, cus what you say is always an option.

Well you can believe what you want, but reality is dlcs are comin.  Comin more than winter is comin.  Comin more than peter north is comin. 

GeeTeeEffOh

Originally posted by RobertDinh

 

Well you can believe what you want, but reality is dlcs are comin.  Comin more than winter is comin.  Comin more than peter north is comin. 

Eeeeeeyyyyyaaaahhhhh.

There's a visual I really wasnt mentally prepared for.

GeeTeeEffOh

Is GW2's RMT model starting to look like Turbine's? (DDO/LOTRO)

While it's not the worst model, I've seen, the problem with it is that you end up spending more money than you would with a Sub after it's all said and done.

(Assuming this is what it is-That's why I am asking)

st4t1ck

Originally posted by GeeTeeEffOh

Is GW2's RMT model starting to look like Turbine's? (DDO/LOTRO)

While it's not the worst model, I've seen, the problem with it is that you end up spending more money than you would with a Sub after it's all said and done.

(Assuming this is what it is-That's why I am asking)

you spend only as much as you want to spend

 

I really dont see how DLC can come into play, they cant use DLC for structured pvp or WvW  they have already stated there will be expansions and free updates,  Maybe in pve, but what are they gonna add a dungeon? they can't Dlc level cap or equipment cuz

Rhianni32

Originally posted by RobertDinh

Originally posted by mazut

Originally posted by RobertDinh

It doesn't matter if you can't buy power directly, you can buy power through what parts of the game you can play, we all known DLCs are coming, now anet can sell dungeons without feeling guilty because they will justify it by saying players who don't wanna pay rl money can play enough to get enough gems to get the DLC. 

 

Also to the person that mentioned ncsoft, you are damn straight it is ncsoft.  This news is coming from mike obrien himself, do you think his underlings devised this?  No it is above his head, and who is above his head?  The parent company. 

 

But anyone with a clue how businesses work knew that ncsoft had power over anet, only the fanbois thought that ncsoft would have zero impact on an anet developed game. 

We dont know, dont rely on rumors. And I hope you are not right, cus what you say is always an option.

Well you can believe what you want, but reality is dlcs are comin.  Comin more than winter is comin.  Comin more than peter north is comin. 

Great DLCs are coming. Now when you lvl 80 has nothing else to spend gold on and you are sitting on a dragon horde of gold you have something to spend it on.

 What is the difference with DLC for new content vs a new boxed set like in GW1? This is far better as you can spend gold on it.

RobertDinh

Originally posted by Rhianni32

Originally posted by RobertDinh

Originally posted by mazut

Originally posted by RobertDinh

It doesn't matter if you can't buy power directly, you can buy power through what parts of the game you can play, we all known DLCs are coming, now anet can sell dungeons without feeling guilty because they will justify it by saying players who don't wanna pay rl money can play enough to get enough gems to get the DLC. 

 

Also to the person that mentioned ncsoft, you are damn straight it is ncsoft.  This news is coming from mike obrien himself, do you think his underlings devised this?  No it is above his head, and who is above his head?  The parent company. 

 

But anyone with a clue how businesses work knew that ncsoft had power over anet, only the fanbois thought that ncsoft would have zero impact on an anet developed game. 

We dont know, dont rely on rumors. And I hope you are not right, cus what you say is always an option.

Well you can believe what you want, but reality is dlcs are comin.  Comin more than winter is comin.  Comin more than peter north is comin. 

Great DLCs are coming. Now when you lvl 80 has nothing else to spend gold on and you are sitting on a dragon horde of gold you have something to spend it on.

 What is the difference with DLC for new content vs a new boxed set like in GW1? This is far better as you can spend gold on it.

Ya dude things are so great when players are limited in content unless they wanna pay rl money for it or slave away and amass enough in game currency (which prolly cost more in time) for it. 

BilboDoggins

I need to know but does this mean that they will sell things like hard to get cosmetics from the hardest dungeons/pvp?

 

If you can just buy cosmetics which take actual skill and effort to acquire than this game IS Pay 2 win. Please tell me this isnt the case. PLEASE

Remains

Originally posted by RobertDinh

Originally posted by mazut

We dont know, dont rely on rumors. And I hope you are not right, cus what you say is always an option.

Well you can believe what you want, but reality is dlcs are comin.  Comin more than winter is comin.  Comin more than peter north is comin. 

You got any source to the DLC thing..? I havent heard a thing about it. Or maybe youre just crying doom after peeping in your crystal ball?

About the gem/gold system: I suppose it could end up messing up the in-game economics, but its hard to tell right now. And I hope that most hard-to-get armors/weapons wont be in any kind of cash shop, that would cheapen the whole thing.

Amana

Guys, since the blog has come out, I'm going to lock this thread so the discussion isn't split in several places.