The game has guilds, there are still alot of features being implemented.
Lag, definately sometimes.
Loot scavenging? Doesnt all rpgs have this? Picking up items that drop from monsters? If you mean "oh man i gotta pick up this item in the middle of all these monsters" then thats suppose to add to the danger factor of, "oh shit i might die if i try and get this" but even then its not a con, its about risk/reward.
Except it's not a case of 'I might die if I pick this up'
It's a case of 'the giant monster that took 50 people to kill dropped 2 items that will be instantly snapped up by the melee folks.'
*I'm indifferent about the permadeath, as it is a required mechanic due to the simplicity of the game. If this game didn't have perma-death it wouldn't have any difficulty at all.
*Loot system blows beyond anything imaginable. 2 pieces of loot for 80 people is probably deserves to go down in history as the worst loot system in ANY game to this date.
*Class system is pretty decent. I enjoy class evolution branching.
*Difficulty is mediumish, its definitely not Touhou as some might claim.
*Aesthetics are about 5 to a 6 realistically speaking.
*There's only about 5 things to do in the game, which are Kill Oryx, Grind fame comptetively, Farm Gods, Get Best in Slot, Get max fame with every class.
* It took about 30mins till I started feeling like I needed to spend money on this game.
*Some of the best latency I've ever had, 10-15 ping on an ATT connection 0_o. And I hate typing out emoticons, but damn that just blows my mind.
* It can easily kill an hour or two of your time if you're a first timer.
*Takes about as much skill as maplestory.
*Just to reinforce the point that this is NOT a danmaku shooter.
I hope this clears things up for those confused by the people whose palms have been greased.
RotMG was fun for a short time but got old pretty fast....Having to go back to level 1 every time you die gets pretty frustrating after awhile...THink I made it to level 20 once then got trained and died....Just didn't feel like leveling up again.
Me and my freinds have had so much fun with this game. It's not ment for long term comitment,it's ment for pick up and play fun. Don't look at it for anything else than it is. Get some freinds together, have a few drinks and play the crap out of it for a few evenings and never think about it again until the next time.
It's perfectily warranted score lol. I thought we left the idea of representative art way back in the late 19th century lol.
Art-direction wise, RotMG wipes the floor with STO just like Picasso wiped the floor with the vast majority of figurative hack artists of his day.
The theme of the game is perfectly conveyed by its art style. It's like saying that Tetris's would be better if done in DX11 with a gazillion of polygons in hyper-realistic style (lol). No, it wouldn't.
SO much truth there!!!
If shitty graphics is a "pro" then they need to go back and move shitty gameplay into the "pro" column for the other games.
If the graphics are a turnoff for 90% of the people who check out the game, it's a con, even if you think you're being hip or clever or kitchy. It's just unprofessional journalism. Might as well put "no graphics" as a "pro" in a MUD.
It's perfectily warranted score lol. I thought we left the idea of representative art way back in the late 19th century lol.
Art-direction wise, RotMG wipes the floor with STO just like Picasso wiped the floor with the vast majority of figurative hack artists of his day.
The theme of the game is perfectly conveyed by its art style. It's like saying that Tetris's would be better if done in DX11 with a gazillion of polygons in hyper-realistic style (lol). No, it wouldn't.
SO much truth there!!!
If shitty graphics is a "pro" then they need to go back and move shitty gameplay into the "pro" column for the other games.
If the graphics are a turnoff for 90% of the people who check out the game, it's a con, even if you think you're being hip or clever or kitchy. It's just unprofessional journalism. Might as well put "no graphics" as a "pro" in a MUD.
You do realize that the style of graphics a person "likes" or "dislikes" is a matter of opinion and not fact right?
The graphics I personally dont mind at all and it IMHO fits the gameplay. Graphics are not everything in a game no matter how great technology is.
It acheives what it set out to achieve, not my cup of tea, but it requires no investment in any form to have fun. Which makes it fun and easy to pick up and play even if only for 5mins.
Aesthetics 9/10 - Are you insane? Even if you think the retro style is cool, there is no way this should get a 9. That is better than you gave Star Trek Online! Do you really think they are even in the same league?
I love this game but have to agree with this. Graphics in this game are it's biggest downside and as someone said here, there's a limit people can take. I too thought the game was bad first time but the great gameplay made me pass this barrier. If this game had Diablo like graphics it would be huge.
The review should say the game is good despite the simple graphics and not praise them.
It's perfectily warranted score lol. I thought we left the idea of representative art way back in the late 19th century lol.
Art-direction wise, RotMG wipes the floor with STO just like Picasso wiped the floor with the vast majority of figurative hack artists of his day.
The theme of the game is perfectly conveyed by its art style. It's like saying that Tetris's would be better if done in DX11 with a gazillion of polygons in hyper-realistic style (lol). No, it wouldn't.
SO much truth there!!!
If shitty graphics is a "pro" then they need to go back and move shitty gameplay into the "pro" column for the other games.
If the graphics are a turnoff for 90% of the people who check out the game, it's a con, even if you think you're being hip or clever or kitchy. It's just unprofessional journalism. Might as well put "no graphics" as a "pro" in a MUD.
You do realize that the style of graphics a person "likes" or "dislikes" is a matter of opinion and not fact right?
The graphics I personally dont mind at all and it IMHO fits the gameplay. Graphics are not everything in a game no matter how great technology is.
But then again thats still a matter of opinion.
You do realize that the style of graphics a person "likes" or "dislikes" is a matter of opinion and not fact right?
To some degree, that is correct, but that's not a reviewer's job. A reviewer's job is to review based on the existing public criteria. Say I made an MMO that was based around Pong tournamnets. As a REVIEWER even if you really love Pong, you have to say to yourself "this is an outdated technology and the world has evolved in the last 35 years", you don't give the gameplay a 8/10 because you like pong. You give it a 2/10, because game play, like graphical interfaces have evolved in the last 25 years (in the case of this title) and you need to keep that in context while making a review. If you want to post it on your own blog, as personal opinion, that's fine, but a PROFESSIONAL REVIEWER'S JOB is to know what the market likes, and what they don't, not to fill a review with his personal preferences.
If he likes the game, give it an 8/10 - but don't try to sell crappy graphics to us as good to justify that you like the other game elements. Give the graphics an appropriate score, 4/10 would be fair here, giving credit for the art direction, but not the implementation, and add points to the other aspects.
Say you had an MMO with no PVP other than consensual one on one dualing. If you really like consensual one on one dualing, do you give the PVP a score of 8, despite the fact that it's missing open world PVP, team based PVP, seiging PVP etc etc, and justify it by saying "Well, personally, I only like to dual"? No you don't.
Is this game really as good as Age of Conan? That's startling.
Is this game really as good as Age of Conan? That's startling.
better IMHO. Honestly.
Games should be fun. They don't have to be beautiful to look at. I had a lot of fun playing the old King's Quest games when your character was made up of 3 or 4 pixels.
Some of the comments in this thread are making me LOL.
Is this game really as good as Age of Conan? That's startling.
better IMHO. Honestly.
Games should be fun. They don't have to be beautiful to look at. I had a lot of fun playing the old King's Quest games when your character was made up of 3 or 4 pixels.
Some of the comments in this thread are making me LOL.
But again, we're not talking about opinions, we're talking about a "professional review", which is supposed to be objective.
A professional review has to be based on some form of opinion. That's why you sometimes get conflicting reviews. I think it's pretty easy to see that in a mad and crazy way the person reviewing this game genuinely IS having fun playing it. As the first post said, they've been playing a lot of it and felt it was flying under people's radars so they thought they'd share. Great! You don't have to like it, not everyone will like everything but I don't think that makes it any less professional. As far as I am concered the less "filler" of facts in a review that can already be discovered elsewhere and the more opinion of over all enjoyment or disappointment the more honest the review. Some opinions are harder and a bit more tricky to convey in a review though I sometimes wish reviewers would just LET RIP with their honest opinion good or bad. I bet sometimes they wouldn't mind the chance to do that too.Yes this game is different, the graphics are terrible to some, quaint to others and just a great laugh to another group. We can agree to disagree I don't mind really This review lightened the mood around here so that's pretty cool in and of itself
But again, we're not talking about opinions, we're talking about a "professional review", which is supposed to be objective.
A professional review has to be based on some form of opinion. That's why you sometimes get conflicting reviews. I think it's pretty easy to see that in a mad and crazy way the person reviewing this game genuinely IS having fun playing it. As the first post said, they've been playing a lot of it and felt it was flying under people's radars so they thought they'd share. Great! You don't have to like it, not everyone will like everything but I don't think that makes it any less professional. As far as I am concered the less "filler" of facts in a review that can already be discovered elsewhere and the more opinion of over all enjoyment or disappointment the more honest the review. Some opinions are harder and a bit more tricky to convey in a review though I sometimes wish reviewers would just LET RIP with their honest opinion good or bad. I bet sometimes they wouldn't mind the chance to do that too.Yes this game is different, the graphics are terrible to some, quaint to others and just a great laugh to another group. We can agree to disagree I don't mind really This review lightened the mood around here so that's pretty cool in and of itself
Conflicting reviews is OK. Wildly divergent reviews shows that at least one reviewer (in this case ours), doesn't know what he's doing. There's no way to objectively give the ascetics of this game a 9/10. That's just a lie. You can say "well in his opinion 2 + 2 is 9" all day long, but it's not. He's free to give it whatever score he wants to, and enjoy it as much as he likes, but he's not being professional when saying that the looks of this game are even average. Saying that it earns an elite a score higher than they give any MMORPG as an overall score, is just amateurish. He has let his enjoyment of other aspects of the game cloud his objectivity.
First of all I think the game is awesome I first played it years ago and its improved quite alot and i'm glad its getting so much attention thanks to steam, BUT its not a real mmo!
Its only 85 players, hardly massive. I play games of m&b and bf2 with way more simulataneous players. and even if it was an mmo you can't review and score it on same system as full mmos as its more like a mini game. its like comparing skyrim to angry birds, yes angry birds is great for what it is but putting it in the same catergory as skyrim is plain moronic.
Although I will say the combat in rotmg is better than most mmo's auto attack crap, but still its no darkfall aiming spells/attacks in 2d is not 3d.
I love the retro feel of it, takes me back to gaming on my ZX Spectrum. We always say that gameplay is king...and then out comes a game with fun and addictive gameplay...only to be slated because of the art-style.
Main thing for me, it's more fun than many of the MMOs I've tried out over the last couple of years. This and Kingdom of Loathing will always have a special place in my heart for bringing fun and charm to the table in great sloshing buckets.
the only reason i don't play it a lot is that it has very little sense of immersion.
and thats pretty much down to it being like a 2D game, and them rarely giving me a feeling of immersion.
alot of THAT is down to the fact that you have a very limited view of what's around you. even tho theres around 80 people not too far away, if you're solo'ing, you hardly ever see them come into your little tiny square view of the world.
with a first or 3rd person view (from over the shoulder), so you could see aways off in the distance, i would play this game a WHOLE lot. especially if it had a medium to large sized world with alot of nicely designed points of interest.
Aesthetics 9/10 - Are you insane? Even if you think the retro style is cool, there is no way this should get a 9. That is better than you gave Star Trek Online! Do you really think they are even in the same league?
Love the concept and look (haven't played it yet), but this is hard-core retro to be sure (maybe too far). Island Forge is old-school without going for full-on pixelation.
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Except it's not a case of 'I might die if I pick this up'
It's a case of 'the giant monster that took 50 people to kill dropped 2 items that will be instantly snapped up by the melee folks.'
Yep, this game is really fun.
I'm playing Rotmg for the past 1,5Months and.. my god, since when I've had so much fun!?
It's simplistic and the perma-death function is challenging. And on top of that: The replay-value (when died) is also given.
Perfect placeholder for me till the end of April - yeah you guessed it right: GW2 Beta!
*I'm indifferent about the permadeath, as it is a required mechanic due to the simplicity of the game. If this game didn't have perma-death it wouldn't have any difficulty at all.
*Loot system blows beyond anything imaginable. 2 pieces of loot for 80 people is probably deserves to go down in history as the worst loot system in ANY game to this date.
*Class system is pretty decent. I enjoy class evolution branching.
*Difficulty is mediumish, its definitely not Touhou as some might claim.
*Aesthetics are about 5 to a 6 realistically speaking.
*There's only about 5 things to do in the game, which are Kill Oryx, Grind fame comptetively, Farm Gods, Get Best in Slot, Get max fame with every class.
* It took about 30mins till I started feeling like I needed to spend money on this game.
*Some of the best latency I've ever had, 10-15 ping on an ATT connection 0_o. And I hate typing out emoticons, but damn that just blows my mind.
* It can easily kill an hour or two of your time if you're a first timer.
*Takes about as much skill as maplestory.
*Just to reinforce the point that this is NOT a danmaku shooter.
I hope this clears things up for those confused by the people whose palms have been greased.
RotMG was fun for a short time but got old pretty fast....Having to go back to level 1 every time you die gets pretty frustrating after awhile...THink I made it to level 20 once then got trained and died....Just didn't feel like leveling up again.
Me and my freinds have had so much fun with this game. It's not ment for long term comitment,it's ment for pick up and play fun. Don't look at it for anything else than it is. Get some freinds together, have a few drinks and play the crap out of it for a few evenings and never think about it again until the next time.
If shitty graphics is a "pro" then they need to go back and move shitty gameplay into the "pro" column for the other games.
If the graphics are a turnoff for 90% of the people who check out the game, it's a con, even if you think you're being hip or clever or kitchy. It's just unprofessional journalism. Might as well put "no graphics" as a "pro" in a MUD.
I can't even take you seriously anymore.
Never heard of this game before i read this review. This is actually a really really fun game.
All I ask is that loot drops give the person who A)killed the mob alone
or
did the most overall damage on a boss or shared mob 1-2 mins to have looting rights only then it would be even better.
Nothing worse so far then hammering a boss for 5 mins only to have a melee come in and snag the loot.
You do realize that the style of graphics a person "likes" or "dislikes" is a matter of opinion and not fact right?
The graphics I personally dont mind at all and it IMHO fits the gameplay. Graphics are not everything in a game no matter how great technology is.
But then again thats still a matter of opinion.
who can support such a pathetic game, ? I would not this back in the late 70s type of game.
boring ass even more boring thern old deicide online game.
well to those how like enjoy I think its poor, and sad and no skill
It acheives what it set out to achieve, not my cup of tea, but it requires no investment in any form to have fun. Which makes it fun and easy to pick up and play even if only for 5mins.
Played this game for about 2 hours after watching some how to vids on youtube. it's fun, but I'm not really drawn to play it.
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I love this game but have to agree with this. Graphics in this game are it's biggest downside and as someone said here, there's a limit people can take. I too thought the game was bad first time but the great gameplay made me pass this barrier. If this game had Diablo like graphics it would be huge.
The review should say the game is good despite the simple graphics and not praise them.
You do realize that the style of graphics a person "likes" or "dislikes" is a matter of opinion and not fact right?
To some degree, that is correct, but that's not a reviewer's job. A reviewer's job is to review based on the existing public criteria. Say I made an MMO that was based around Pong tournamnets. As a REVIEWER even if you really love Pong, you have to say to yourself "this is an outdated technology and the world has evolved in the last 35 years", you don't give the gameplay a 8/10 because you like pong. You give it a 2/10, because game play, like graphical interfaces have evolved in the last 25 years (in the case of this title) and you need to keep that in context while making a review. If you want to post it on your own blog, as personal opinion, that's fine, but a PROFESSIONAL REVIEWER'S JOB is to know what the market likes, and what they don't, not to fill a review with his personal preferences.
If he likes the game, give it an 8/10 - but don't try to sell crappy graphics to us as good to justify that you like the other game elements. Give the graphics an appropriate score, 4/10 would be fair here, giving credit for the art direction, but not the implementation, and add points to the other aspects.
Say you had an MMO with no PVP other than consensual one on one dualing. If you really like consensual one on one dualing, do you give the PVP a score of 8, despite the fact that it's missing open world PVP, team based PVP, seiging PVP etc etc, and justify it by saying "Well, personally, I only like to dual"? No you don't.
Is this game really as good as Age of Conan? That's startling.
better IMHO. Honestly.
Games should be fun. They don't have to be beautiful to look at. I had a lot of fun playing the old King's Quest games when your character was made up of 3 or 4 pixels.
Some of the comments in this thread are making me LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z2Z23SAFVA&ob=av3e
the poster formerly known as melangel :P
But again, we're not talking about opinions, we're talking about a "professional review", which is supposed to be objective.
A professional review has to be based on some form of opinion. That's why you sometimes get conflicting reviews. I think it's pretty easy to see that in a mad and crazy way the person reviewing this game genuinely IS having fun playing it. As the first post said, they've been playing a lot of it and felt it was flying under people's radars so they thought they'd share. Great! You don't have to like it, not everyone will like everything but I don't think that makes it any less professional. As far as I am concered the less "filler" of facts in a review that can already be discovered elsewhere and the more opinion of over all enjoyment or disappointment the more honest the review. Some opinions are harder and a bit more tricky to convey in a review though I sometimes wish reviewers would just LET RIP with their honest opinion good or bad. I bet sometimes they wouldn't mind the chance to do that too.Yes this game is different, the graphics are terrible to some, quaint to others and just a great laugh to another group. We can agree to disagree I don't mind really
This review lightened the mood around here so that's pretty cool in and of itself 
the poster formerly known as melangel :P
Conflicting reviews is OK. Wildly divergent reviews shows that at least one reviewer (in this case ours), doesn't know what he's doing. There's no way to objectively give the ascetics of this game a 9/10. That's just a lie. You can say "well in his opinion 2 + 2 is 9" all day long, but it's not. He's free to give it whatever score he wants to, and enjoy it as much as he likes, but he's not being professional when saying that the looks of this game are even average. Saying that it earns an elite a score higher than they give any MMORPG as an overall score, is just amateurish. He has let his enjoyment of other aspects of the game cloud his objectivity.
First of all I think the game is awesome I first played it years ago and its improved quite alot and i'm glad its getting so much attention thanks to steam, BUT its not a real mmo!
Its only 85 players, hardly massive. I play games of m&b and bf2 with way more simulataneous players. and even if it was an mmo you can't review and score it on same system as full mmos as its more like a mini game. its like comparing skyrim to angry birds, yes angry birds is great for what it is but putting it in the same catergory as skyrim is plain moronic.
Although I will say the combat in rotmg is better than most mmo's auto attack crap, but still its no darkfall aiming spells/attacks in 2d is not 3d.
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I love the retro feel of it, takes me back to gaming on my ZX Spectrum. We always say that gameplay is king...and then out comes a game with fun and addictive gameplay...only to be slated because of the art-style.
Main thing for me, it's more fun than many of the MMOs I've tried out over the last couple of years. This and Kingdom of Loathing will always have a special place in my heart for bringing fun and charm to the table in great sloshing buckets.
I would hope they fix the lag, which is the only thing hindering enjoyment for me!
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the gameplay is great.
the only reason i don't play it a lot is that it has very little sense of immersion.
and thats pretty much down to it being like a 2D game, and them rarely giving me a feeling of immersion.
alot of THAT is down to the fact that you have a very limited view of what's around you. even tho theres around 80 people not too far away, if you're solo'ing, you hardly ever see them come into your little tiny square view of the world.
with a first or 3rd person view (from over the shoulder), so you could see aways off in the distance, i would play this game a WHOLE lot. especially if it had a medium to large sized world with alot of nicely designed points of interest.
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Just a note that only low end items are dropped in common bags. Higher end loot can only be seen and picked up by yourself (individual bag drops).
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Couldn''t put it better..
It looks crap even for a NES game.
Love the concept and look (haven't played it yet), but this is hard-core retro to be sure (maybe too far). Island Forge is old-school without going for full-on pixelation.
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