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Unofficial Guild Wars 2 vs Tera thread

BigBadWolfeBigBadWolfe Member Posts: 143

This thread is created in response to the pollution Guild Wars 2 fanboys have been creating on the Tera forums.  Everybody here that absolutely adores GW2 can post here without consequence as long as they keep their opinions out of the rest of the Tera threads.

Here's some Structured Discussions that people can start off with

GW2 vs Tera  PvE = Dynamic Events/Rifts, Leveling Alts,  Farming Gold, Dungeons

GW2 vs Tera PvP = Combat mechanics, Open World PvP, Structured PvP/Battlegrounds

GW2 vs Tera Classes and Races = Melee, Ranged, Support

GW2 vs Tera Endgame = Political System/Meta Events, Economy, Guilds & Community

Other = Crafting, Achievements, Story, Collectables, Character Customization, P2P/Cash Shop

Feel free to express your love of GW2 here to your hearts content, and your disapproval anybody that might enjoy Tera more.  All GW2 players trolling any of the other Tera threads will be redirected here.

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  • ThorbrandThorbrand Member Posts: 1,198

    What? Two different games targeting different players. Why do this matter?

    I will say I might play GW2.

    I know of a fact I won't play Tera!

  • Nadya3Nadya3 Member Posts: 348

    i don't like pay to win games,  so GW2 is not an option to me anymore.

    Tera will be the last MMO im gonna play.

  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

    This thread is created in response to the pollution Guild Wars 2 fanboys have been creating on the Tera forums.  Everybody here that absolutely adores GW2 can post here without consequence as long as they keep their opinions out of the rest of the Tera threads.

    Here's some Structured Discussions that people can start off with

    GW2 vs Tera  PvE = Dynamic Events/Rifts, Leveling Alts,  Farming Gold, Dungeons

    GW2 vs Tera PvP = Combat mechanics, Open World PvP, Structured PvP/Battlegrounds

    GW2 vs Tera Classes and Races = Melee, Ranged. Support

    GW2 vs Tera Endgame = Political System/Meta Events, Economy, Guilds & Community

    Other = Crafting, Achievements, Story/lore Collection, Character Customization, P2P/Cash Shop

    Feel free to express your love of GW2 here to your hearts content, and your disapproval anybody that might enjoy Tera more.  All GW2 players trolling any of the other Tera threads will be redirected here.

    Good luck with that. 

    Sucks that you don't like to hear negative comments.  Sucks that everyone else has to put up with it too.

  • AnkurAnkur Member Posts: 334

    Originally posted by Unlight

    Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

    This thread is created in response to the pollution Guild Wars 2 fanboys have been creating on the Tera forums.  Everybody here that absolutely adores GW2 can post here without consequence as long as they keep their opinions out of the rest of the Tera threads.

    Here's some Structured Discussions that people can start off with

    GW2 vs Tera  PvE = Dynamic Events/Rifts, Leveling Alts,  Farming Gold, Dungeons

    GW2 vs Tera PvP = Combat mechanics, Open World PvP, Structured PvP/Battlegrounds

    GW2 vs Tera Classes and Races = Melee, Ranged. Support

    GW2 vs Tera Endgame = Political System/Meta Events, Economy, Guilds & Community

    Other = Crafting, Achievements, Story/lore Collection, Character Customization, P2P/Cash Shop

    Feel free to express your love of GW2 here to your hearts content, and your disapproval anybody that might enjoy Tera more.  All GW2 players trolling any of the other Tera threads will be redirected here.

    Good luck with that. 

    Sucks that you don't like to hear negative comments.  Sucks that everyone else has to put up with it too.

    yeah because GW2 fans welcome negative comments with open arms.

    *rolls eyes*

  • DinastyDinasty Member UncommonPosts: 212

    Originally posted by Nadya3

    i don't like pay to win games,  so GW2 is not an option to me anymore.

    A shining example of ignorance.

  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    I'll wait for feedback from friends before Ill try GW2. I thought the IP was meh but I want to see how they integrate the dynamic portions. The "quests" still have to be preprogrammed although there are phased events triggered to go along with it. Sounds fun but not enough to jump. The art style is a little too bland to my taste and I want to hear how much content there is before the packs are needed.

    At the end if the day I want an open world I can explore with friends that has a lot of group content. For me TERA is the better option.

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • NethriilNethriil Member Posts: 178
    I ll be playing secret world for pve and when gw2 comes out in the fall i ll be playing that for pvp. I will not Play tera as it is 2 much like Wow. Grind grind grind
  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    Originally posted by Ankur

    Originally posted by Unlight


    Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

    This thread is created in response to the pollution Guild Wars 2 fanboys have been creating on the Tera forums.  Everybody here that absolutely adores GW2 can post here without consequence as long as they keep their opinions out of the rest of the Tera threads.

    Here's some Structured Discussions that people can start off with

    GW2 vs Tera  PvE = Dynamic Events/Rifts, Leveling Alts,  Farming Gold, Dungeons

    GW2 vs Tera PvP = Combat mechanics, Open World PvP, Structured PvP/Battlegrounds

    GW2 vs Tera Classes and Races = Melee, Ranged. Support

    GW2 vs Tera Endgame = Political System/Meta Events, Economy, Guilds & Community

    Other = Crafting, Achievements, Story/lore Collection, Character Customization, P2P/Cash Shop

    Feel free to express your love of GW2 here to your hearts content, and your disapproval anybody that might enjoy Tera more.  All GW2 players trolling any of the other Tera threads will be redirected here.

    Good luck with that. 

    Sucks that you don't like to hear negative comments.  Sucks that everyone else has to put up with it too.

    yeah because GW2 fans welcome negative comments with open arms.

    *rolls eyes*

    Point too complex to grok?  Here it is simplified:  we all have to put up with asshole haters in the forums of the games we like.  The OP's post is just so much melodrama that does nothing but states he don't like getting trolled.  Yeah, none of us do but we're all stuck with it.  No one gets a pass.

    Now chin, chin ... do continue with your mudpies.

  • BigBadWolfeBigBadWolfe Member Posts: 143

    I'm not so much concerned about the trolling but the fact the trolling is coming from almost exclusively one source.  This thread is the perfect medium for GW2 fans to voice their game's superiority over Tera complete with point-by-point guidelines to follow.  Hopefully someone with a grasp of the english language can explain to us clearly uninformed Tera fans why GW2 is better.  Majority of the posts I keep hearing are along the lines of "Herp derp, played Tera for a few hours, GW2 is better."

     

  • PivotelitePivotelite Member UncommonPosts: 2,145

    This thread is just silly, if they want a place to bash TERA they could do it on the GW2 forums when comparing different games features, isn't that a better place to be directing them?

     

    If you didn't want hate and trolling for TERA, why would you create a thread that asks GW2 fans to troll TERA in it. Gladly, none have taken the bait and have not used this thread as a means to hate on TERA.

     

    Once again, this thread really has no point... trolls will be trolls, fanboys will be fanboys and haters will be haters. We all have to put up with them, GW2 gets their fair share of doom threads as well.

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  • ropeniceropenice Member UncommonPosts: 588

    Originally posted by Dinasty

    Originally posted by Nadya3

    i don't like pay to win games,  so GW2 is not an option to me anymore.

    A shining example of ignorance.

    Isn't Tera going to have a CS too?

  • BigBadWolfeBigBadWolfe Member Posts: 143

    It's not, just more misinformating flying around.

    There are plans for K-Tera to get a cash shop of exclusively cosmetic items.  But this has no effect at all on W-Tera as they are completely different versions.

    And trolling is not okay, I know it might be hard to believe, but a lot of players actually are interested in playing Tera and they use this forum as a source of information.  I know the trolling can't be stopped but at least now GW2 fans have an entire thread dedicated to putting down info on why their game is so much better.  It's win/win, they have place where they tell Tera players off without having to search around, and it cleans up the other threads in this forum, so other people can actually get some proper information.

    And how is this baiting?  People seem to be so thoroughly convinced that Tera can't compete with the likes of GW2 at all, it should be every easy nail all of the neatly organized discussion points above telling us why. 

  • drakes821drakes821 Member UncommonPosts: 535

    For me GW2 and Tera aren't competing with eachother. The reason is GW2 is b2p so I will get it and can still subscribed to Tera. Sure it may take some time away from my Tera playing but it's not a bad thing to have diversity.

    I don't understand why people always feel the need to figure out which one is going to be better or do better...many people just can't whish the best for both games, they feel the need to put down the one they don't plan on playing.

  • AmbrosiaAmorAmbrosiaAmor Member Posts: 915

    Originally posted by drakes821

    I don't understand why people always feel the need to figure out which one is going to be better or do better...many people just can't whish the best for both games, they feel the need to put down the one they don't plan on playing.

     


    Yeah I agree. While I have been a Negative Nancy (not so much with the company since they have done a good job: but more with the longevity of a theme park MMORPG in this day and age) I am still getting the Collector's Edition. I have never, and will never, pledge "allegiance" to any company. What is the point? Behind the so called "relationship" it really is a one dimensional relationship to buy their products and make their investors happy (and richer).


     


    That doesn't mean I don't enjoy games, I certainly do like most of us, but I don't go out of my way to defend any of them. As far as online games are concerned (RPG and/or Action) I am going to play the following: TERA Online, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, Phantasy Star Online 2, Blade & Soul, and ArcheAge. I am sure most of them will end up being the 3-6 monther, while hoping that one of them becomes an awesome adventure I can experience for years to come like I did with EverQuest II and FFXI.

     

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  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    That's an odd goal.  I mean, I don't know that GW2 is "superior" to TERA, since I haven't played GW2.  If anything, this thread should be started again in September or something, but as it stands, it's still going to cause a greater divide in the community.  I didn't like TERA at all, but it has nothing to do with GW2, it has everything to do with TERA.

  • gainesvilleggainesvilleg Member CommonPosts: 1,053

    Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

    It's not, just more misinformating flying around.

    There are plans for K-Tera to get a cash shop of exclusively cosmetic items.  But this has no effect at all on W-Tera as they are completely different versions.

    And trolling is not okay, I know it might be hard to believe, but a lot of players actually are interested in playing Tera and they use this forum as a source of information.  I know the trolling can't be stopped but at least now GW2 fans have an entire thread dedicated to putting down info on why their game is so much better.  It's win/win, they have place where they tell Tera players off without having to search around, and it cleans up the other threads in this forum, so other people can actually get some proper information.

    And how is this baiting?  People seem to be so thoroughly convinced that Tera can't compete with the likes of GW2 at all, it should be every easy nail all of the neatly organized discussion points above telling us why. 

    So is Tera going to have a cash shop or not?  I was told (while debating the GW2 cash shop) that Tera had a cash shop.  Is that not true?  I really haven't been following Tera at all thus far.

    I refuse to play any pay2win cash shop game.  Purely cosmetic is acceptable, as long as the cosmetic items don't mimic some hard-to-achieve in-game reward.

    GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
    1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
    2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  • QuesaQuesa Member UncommonPosts: 1,432

    Different games with different gaming concepts and different targetted audience.

    Star Citizen Referral Code: STAR-DPBM-Z2P4
  • biboct123biboct123 Member Posts: 7

    Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

    This thread is created in response to the pollution Guild Wars 2 fanboys have been creating on the Tera forums.  Everybody here that absolutely adores GW2 can post here without consequence as long as they keep their opinions out of the rest of the Tera threads.

    Here's some Structured Discussions that people can start off with

    GW2 vs Tera  PvE = Dynamic Events/Rifts, Leveling Alts,  Farming Gold, Dungeons

    GW2 vs Tera PvP = Combat mechanics, Open World PvP, Structured PvP/Battlegrounds

    GW2 vs Tera Classes and Races = Melee, Ranged, Support

    GW2 vs Tera Endgame = Political System/Meta Events, Economy, Guilds & Community

    Other = Crafting, Achievements, Story, Collectables, Character Customization, P2P/Cash Shop

    Feel free to express your love of GW2 here to your hearts content, and your disapproval anybody that might enjoy Tera more.  All GW2 players trolling any of the other Tera threads will be redirected here.

    you don't have to do this ,unless you're dumb!

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Originally posted by gainesvilleg

    ...

    So is Tera going to have a cash shop or not?  I was told (while debating the GW2 cash shop) that Tera had a cash shop.  Is that not true?  I really haven't been following Tera at all thus far.

    I refuse to play any pay2win cash shop game.  Purely cosmetic is acceptable, as long as the cosmetic items don't mimic some hard-to-achieve in-game reward.

    Cash shop for Tera includes only cosmetic items and is restricted to Korean only (for now):

    https://forum.tera-europe.com/showthread.php?t=51970



    Whoever posted that about Tera was just trying to excuse GW2 for being a F2P game with a hefty upfront price. Nothing wrong with GW2 being what it is, but some people are too caught up in semantics. Besides, the amount of p2win that will eventually find its way into the GW2 cash shop is directly proportional to the reaction of the community. If the apologists prevail, it'll be a lot easier to implement a lot more p2win items. For now they are gauging the reactions of said community, thus the strict NDA on the cash shop.

    Besides, even if GW2 does implement p2win items, it won't matter much. The game is setup to be played in strictly PvE servers, so it's not like you're going to see people running around ganging others in the safety of their cash shop superior items.

  • AtmaDarkwolfAtmaDarkwolf Member UncommonPosts: 353

    I have no issue with cash shop games, and have played a few myself, but there are limits as to what I will sit with(as many others) and if any item in the shop is both unattainable ingame, and is 'better' than most(or equipable early on) then the game gets dropped asap.

     

    If its cosmetic, thats fine, if its extra space(as long as 'original space' isn't so vastly limited) or 'spawn protection/item defense(upgrading, etc)' then I'm ok too.

     

    But for a game you PAY for, evne if its a upfront (gw2) or a sub(Tera) any form of cash shop item is imo WRONG. With GW2, as long as its ONLY COSMETICS(IE: no 'extra's like space, mounts, etc) its ok. With tera, ANY 'cash shop' with it being SUBBED is a absolute good bye, no matter how good the game is.

     

    This is my opinion, but I feel many have the same thoughts.

  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,878

    Honestly matching pretty much anything up against Tera makes the other game automatically win, so this would be unfair to Tera. People will forget that Tera even existed by the time summer is over. The game might appeal to a niche audience, but it does not have the quality or advertising power of a AAA title in order to be even remotely competitive with anything coming out anytime soon. 

  • Nadya3Nadya3 Member Posts: 348

    they should close threads that promote bashing and trolling other games.

     

    or should we go to the GW2 forums and make a similar thread to this?

     

    honestly the more i know about GW2 the less i like it.    community wise is gonna be a kindergarden paradise.

  • PivotelitePivotelite Member UncommonPosts: 2,145

    Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

    But for a game you PAY for, evne if its a upfront (gw2) or a sub(Tera) any form of cash shop item is imo WRONG. With GW2, as long as its ONLY COSMETICS(IE: no 'extra's like space, mounts, etc) its ok. With tera, ANY 'cash shop' with it being SUBBED is a absolute good bye, no matter how good the game is.

    This is my opinion, but I feel many have the same thoughts.

     You will have no where to go then, honestly, I hate the model too but you have to accept it.

     

    Every game whether it be F2P, P2P or B2P will have some form of cash shop, and it will become bigger and bigger and more items will be in them, why? They make money, people with money love cash shops and companies make a killing. In ten years I could see every game being F2P/P2W with the current trend games are heading in.

     

    WoWs new $25 dragon, made them millions of dollars the first day, that's a sub based MMO and still that many people hopped all over it.

     

    What company wouldn't take advantage of that?

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  • grimm6thgrimm6th Member Posts: 973

    Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

    But for a game you PAY for, evne if its a upfront (gw2) or a sub(Tera) any form of cash shop item is imo WRONG. With GW2, as long as its ONLY COSMETICS(IE: no 'extra's like space, mounts, etc) its ok. With tera, ANY 'cash shop' with it being SUBBED is a absolute good bye, no matter how good the game is.

    first...

    box price + sub + cash shop + expansions is a pretty standard business model.

    F2P with cash shop that greatly restricts what you can do in game without paying into the cash shop is a pretty standard business model.

    which one sucks more money from players?  The F2P with cash shop.

     

    second...GW2 cash shop is not like normal cash shops, so PLEASE stop making random statements about how you aren't going to play GW2 if the cash shop has this or that (seriously, everybody, it isn't really that hard to look up what GW2 microtransactions are going to be like).

    I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  • NightkinNightkin Member UncommonPosts: 48

    Originally posted by Nadya3

    i don't like pay to win games,  so GW2 is not an option to me anymore.

    Tera will be the last MMO im gonna play.

    You have to pay monthly fee for TERA but you need to pay once for GW2. There are no P2W items in GW2 store so your stupidity is unquestionable.

    I hate "wow copy grindfest" games with their boring "kill 15 xy" quests. GW2 won.

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