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"this game sucks"= not appropriate, "this game is awesome"= appropriate??????

it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

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  • DannyGloverDannyGlover Member Posts: 1,277

    show me a post where someone said "best game ever" and didn't give at least 1 reason why.

    I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.

  • orsonstfuorsonstfu Member Posts: 203

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Good word of mouth = better cash flow from vendors seeking to advertise.

     

    Bad word of mouth = worse cash flow from vendors fleeing the hostile environment.

     

    It's lame but it's business.

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    Originally posted by orsonstfu

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Good word of mouth = better cash flow from vendors seeking to advertise.

     

    Bad word of mouth = worse cash flow from vendors fleeing the hostile environment.

     

    It's lame but it's business.

    so essentially the news, reviews, previews by staff on this site are completely worthless

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    Originally posted by DannyGlover

    show me a post where someone said "best game ever" and didn't give at least 1 reason why.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/346656/page/13

    2nd last post on the page

  • orsonstfuorsonstfu Member Posts: 203

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    Originally posted by orsonstfu


    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Good word of mouth = better cash flow from vendors seeking to advertise.

     

    Bad word of mouth = worse cash flow from vendors fleeing the hostile environment.

     

    It's lame but it's business.

    so essentially the news, reviews, previews by staff on this site are completely worthless

    I dont see how that would arbitrarily make news worthless? Or even a preview.... Now for the review section, I dare not defend any reviews. All reviews on all sites are worthless.. Customer reviews are the only thing you can even slightly trust and only then if there are a large number of them for you to a get a feel for exactly what is a pro or con of a given game.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Maybe because negative posts lead to flame wars, and positive ones only lead to flame wars if the other person has no self control.  Who gets mad about someone saying a game is good?  People with no self control.

    Or you know, an agenda.

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    Originally posted by orsonstfu

    Originally posted by bishbosh


    Originally posted by orsonstfu


    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Good word of mouth = better cash flow from vendors seeking to advertise.

     

    Bad word of mouth = worse cash flow from vendors fleeing the hostile environment.

     

    It's lame but it's business.

    so essentially the news, reviews, previews by staff on this site are completely worthless

    I dont see how that would arbitrarily make news worthless? Or even a preview.... Now for the review section, I dare not defend any reviews. All reviews on all sites are worthless.. Customer reviews are the only thing you can even slightly trust and only then if there are a large number of them for you to a get a feel for exactly what is a pro or con of a given game.

    i was talking more about what the staff write in the previews and news. they never mention anything bad about the game only positives, or they twist mediocre features to make them seem awesome.

  • orsonstfuorsonstfu Member Posts: 203

    If it's not your own thoughts on a given thing, anything you read from anyone other than yourself is going to be biased. It's just a matter of sifting through what is important to you and what is drivel frivilous hype.

  • WorstluckWorstluck Member Posts: 1,269

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    Originally posted by orsonstfu


    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Good word of mouth = better cash flow from vendors seeking to advertise.

     

    Bad word of mouth = worse cash flow from vendors fleeing the hostile environment.

     

    It's lame but it's business.

    so essentially the news, reviews, previews by staff on this site are completely worthless

     

    Worthless?  No.  News is news, you can't put a positive spin on bad news, unless you just don't report it.  A preview is what it is.  As far as reviews, they are pretty worthless at 95% of magazines and websites.  It's always been that way with games, as far as I can remember.  Gaming websites/magazines make their money through advertising, it's pretty easy to imagine why they aren't going to bad mouth a game/developer/publisher that is either giving them money to advertise or may give them money in the future.  Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

     

    There are plenty of places to get objective reviews around the web.  Lots of gaming communities around that will give you the down low.  However in the end a review is nothing more than an opinion.  Your mileage may vary.

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  • KakkzookaKakkzooka Member Posts: 591

    This thread is awesome.

    Re: SWTOR

    "Remember, remember - Kakk says 'December.'"

  • IkonisIkonis Member UncommonPosts: 245
    Oddly enough on this same subject, 10 hours is not enough time to gauge if a game is bad. It is however enough time to gauge that it is good. Go figure.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Easy answer.

    The advertisers who pay for this site want to see "awesome", not "sucks", 

  • headphonesheadphones Member Posts: 611

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    you just answered your own question.

    it's the reasons why.

    most people say "this sucks." and leave it at that. they never talk about mechanics or provide room for discussion.

    usually, when people are saying a game looks good, they're talking about aspects they like. there's usually a "because" in there somewhere. don't see many threads start with "x is awesome!" end.

    but they seem to start a lot based on "x is bad!" end.

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    Originally posted by headphones

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    you just answered your own question.

    it's the reasons why.

    most people say "this sucks." and leave it at that. they never talk about mechanics or provide room for discussion.

    usually, when people are saying a game looks good, they're talking about aspects they like. there's usually a "because" in there somewhere. don't see many threads start with "x is awesome!" end.

    but they seem to start a lot based on "x is bad!" end.

    ive seen plenty of people posting "this game is great" or similar without reasoning. it ussually comes as replies to a thread rather than the actual thread so maybe it doesnt attract as much attention.

    just look at any of the game specific forums prior to release.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,501

    Which (if either) is appropriate depends on the game.  For example, "this game is awesome" is wholly inappropriate on the Evony forums.  ;)

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    Well all I know is that GW2 is the best game ever.

  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,010

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka

    This thread is awesome.

    No no no - this thread sucks.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    Originally posted by jdlamson75

    Originally posted by Kakkzooka

    This thread is awesome.

    No no no - this thread sucks.

    You are SO reported.

  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,010

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by jdlamson75


    Originally posted by Kakkzooka

    This thread is awesome.

    No no no - this thread sucks.

    You are SO reported.



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  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Well all I know is that GW2 is the best game ever.

    ive been seeing a lot of this lately

  • CingeCinge Member Posts: 120

    welcome to mmorpg. Watch for the GW2 white knights.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440

    Yes, yes, I'm sure you have.  *pat pat*

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Originally posted by bishbosh

    it is considered trolling/bad to post a comment like "this game sucks" without providing any reasons why you feel this way. I think this is a reasonable rule as this is a discussion forum and simple posting opinion without reason doesnt really allow for discussion.

    why doesnt this rule apply to people who post "this game is awesome", "best gaem eva!111", "this game is great" without posting reasons as to why?

    Maybe because negative posts lead to flame wars, and positive ones only lead to flame wars if the other person has no self control.  Who gets mad about someone saying a game is good?  People with no self control.

    Or you know, an agenda.

    well if you havent realised the reason why have been/are stuck with such crappy mmorpgs for the past couple of years or so is because people keep overhyping things encouraging devs to continue releasing similar flaming pieces of turds because they no they will get make profit due to hype.

    negative posts only tighten up devs and remind them to keep improving their game. postiive posts do the opposite. saying a crap game is good and spreading this is damaging to the industry. this is how we got a decade of wow clones.

  • BunksBunks Member Posts: 960

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Well all I know is that GW2 is the best game ever.

    No 2nd best game ever, we all know GW3 is the best ever.

  • bishboshbishbosh Member Posts: 388

    Originally posted by Bunks

    Originally posted by Eir_S

    Well all I know is that GW2 is the best game ever.

    No 2nd best game ever, we all know GW3 is the best ever.

    you reckon gw2 fanbois and gw3 fanbois would have a flame war if somehow through time travel they were made to coexist for a brief period?

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