depends on what you want, I have played both and TSW is very unfinished and will not be ready for its release date in June, also the questing and flow of the game is not fluid at all.. you end up being jolted many times in a bad way as in.. wait wtf does this mean? why was I sent here? why did that quest update? do I really have to drop this quest to pick up this one I found while doing another? Also there are very little choices you can make other than which quest to do and you can only do max 3 at a time but this is usually only 2. Whats funny is there is a lot of talk about choices while you follow the trail to your quest objectives without knowing why. Tera on the other hand looks AMAZING but it is a Korean grinder and if you like those games you will be happy. However... the animation stops are a major pain in the butt and were a deal breaker for me. Example the mystic has a long range teleport forward.. nice huh for a clothy? Yea... no because after you teleport the camera has to catch up to you before you can move and it takes almost as long as running there.. so now the player or mob you were avoiding just caught you anyways.. pretty much its only useful if the other player is stuck in their own animation, unable to control their toon. There is no cancel attack button. A third game in the mix which I have also played is Guild Wars 2. In MY opinion it is a much better game and there is too much to point out here if you do not know it. If you do then decide whether it is for you or not. I had a ton of fun playing it and cannot wait to get a hold of it again. Here is a thread in case you aren't familiar with GW2. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/337506/page/1
Good luck in your decision and I hope you like whichever you decide on.
You can't compare promises to a game. At the moment TSW is only promises of a game, but people haven't had enough chances to play to really know about the game itself. TERA has had multiple beta weekends so it's already possible to evaluate it as a game.
Try before you buy, it's that simple. If GW2 doesn't have an open beta as GW1 did, i will be reluctant to buy it, regardless of the ridiculous amount of footage I've seen of it.
This game has very little footage, no open beta (yet.. we'll see) and offers a lifetime sub as if it were expecting an early doom.
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This is my personal opinion, i tried tera and i never got into it as it just bored me to death, but why do people say bad things about funcom, im sure thay done 2 good mmo's anarchy and age of conan and both going strong today plus funcom have a acount system where you can play free and only have so much you can do and pay where everything is unlocked.
I think TSW is a game for you if you want to get involved in the story and use your brain while doing quests. TSW to me is a bit of adventure game/mmorpg crossover. The character development system is also quite different from what you are used to. All 500+ skills available to any character and you get to compose your own from 7active+7passive. Different compositions will be good in different situations and you can change between them whenever out of combat. You can also save your favourite ones together with the gear that fits the composition.
TSW is a Funcom game which atleast earlier has ment that its going to be moderatly hard. In addition the quite flat power curve of the vertical progression which means that after reaching the top of the vertical power curve you can expand your character horizontally with lots of content still at a good difficulty.
TSW looks to have some of the best dungeons in the game and if you get tired of your current role or if the party you are in is missing on tanking, healing or dps, you aren't stuck. You can just change things around. A very good read is this article: http://www.pcgamer.com/previews/secret-world-dungeons/
From the conclusion of the article above:
Closing notes
The almost complete lack of trash mobs kept this dungeon moving along. Every fight felt important because there was a big guy with a unique mechanic involved. But even boss fights can often be boring in MMOs–TSW’s stood out to me as particularly fun, mostly due to their insistence on keeping you guessing and forcing you to work to accomplish your role. As a tank, it was REALLY hard to keep aggro, but the game is balanced with that in mind. People don’t die as quickly as they do in most MMOs, so me losing aggro didn’t mean our group would wipe. Instead, my job seemed to be to struggle and improvise to hold aggro as much as possible. My allies can take hits from time to time, but they can’t hold it forever–so there was still pressure to regain aggro as quickly as possible. It’s a hardcore design in line with Funcom’s desire to make TSW a difficult game that refuses to hold players hands. The result is a dungeon that consistently delivers those fast-paced shots of adrenaline that any tank will be familiar with: that feeling of panic when you lose aggro and have to improvise to get it back before someone dies.
I would not buy TSW if I was into twitch combat, it's not that kind of game. If you hate puzzles or want a game that is easy and straight forward, I would skip it as well. No idea what the OP is since WoW originally was pretty hardcore, while lately it seems it's more of a easy mode casual game your grandmother could pick up and enjoy...
I'll be taking the wait and see a few months out approach with The Secret World and Tera. TSW has me a bit worried with the lifetime subscription from the start. When I see lifetime subscription, I see "we don't think this game is worth paying for on a monthly basis for years to come". Sounds a bit silly and probably is, but it makes me a bit wary of it.
Tera seems too anime for me but I'll be waiting a few months to see how it goes.
I've been burnt by so many mmo's the past few years that didn't pan out to be any good, I don't want to waste my time or money on them if it's not a solid product. I'm not as forgiving with mmo companies as I once was. You have one chance to grab me and keep me, after the first month you have to work to keep me.
It amazes me that people these days are fine with mediocrity when a game that's been in development for over 5 years comes out and doesn't even have basic features expected in today's mmo's. I think that's part of the problem we have with mmo's. The customers are too much fanobois they don't hold the companies accountable for the slop they keep producing, and why should they produce better when the fanbois will pay for mediocrity and lap it up like pigs.
Tera comes out this month, TSW you have no idea when it really will release. Remember, this is Funcom, the official dates are not necessarily solid.
So why not play Tera now and TSW later when it releases, could be a 4-6 month spread between the two.
you truly have no idea what you are talking about
TSW launches June 19th, June 15th for some of us
to the OP, try the TERA open beta then decide
You realize the secret world was supposed to come out april 29th right? It was delayed 2 months. SO why is it he doesnt know what he is talking about when he suggests it could happen again?
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This is my personal opinion, i tried tera and i never got into it as it just bored me to death, but why do people say bad things about funcom, im sure thay done 2 good mmo's anarchy and age of conan and both going strong today plus funcom have a acount system where you can play free and only have so much you can do and pay where everything is unlocked.
Everyone who says bad things about funcom remembers age of conan at launch. The hype vs the truth.
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Just my own opinion and not knocking the game or people that want to play it but Tera was not worth the time or effort to pay a subscription. I thought when I first read about it I thought it would be great but when I got into beta it lost my interest all together the game mechanics just did not do it for me I tried to go more along the lines of the story and that did not do it for me either. It may have great potential higher in the game but if it lost my attention the first 30 lvls I would never make it.
As for Secret World I have yet to make any choice in the matter since it has been delayed and only can either read the newsletter sent to me on the game progress maybe one of these days in an open beta I can acutally comment on it or when more game articles from other places become readily available.
Other then that the only game I guess I will be playing is GW2.
without a doubt is the game for you, its smooth, good combat. Tsw is bulky slow combat and does not appear to be a smooth game, doesnt matter what anyone else sais, tera is the game for you. Has immersion smoothness and everything your looking for. I have seen alot of gameplay videos of tsw and can already tell it will be an average game at best, but i have played TERA closed beta and can tell you that its one hell of a game, and most likely mmo of the year. So yeah without a doubt the game for you is Tera its released soon anyway so enjoy
Tera comes out this month, TSW you have no idea when it really will release. Remember, this is Funcom, the official dates are not necessarily solid.
So why not play Tera now and TSW later when it releases, could be a 4-6 month spread between the two.
you truly have no idea what you are talking about
TSW launches June 19th, June 15th for some of us
to the OP, try the TERA open beta then decide
I'll be very surprised if TSW launches on the 19th, and if it does there's a high probability the quality level won't be what it needs to be.
This is Funcom after all.
But your optimism is refreshing.
Optimism ?
Hmm..TSW was suppose to launch ...the 15 th of April if i'm not mistaken, or that was the official launch date that was postponed..So they have a good 2 months extra development time..Wich according to your post is "what they need"..
Can you please give me some links that backs up your claims that TSW is not or will not be ready for launch, all testings and videos claim othervise
My suggestion to this is..
They are VERY diffrent games, almost diffrent genres..Both are MMO's thou..
Whike Tera is focusing on "a sort of action combat" and a rather picturesque world and maybe not so big focus on quests and story. It's a traditional and manga inspired fantasy fair..For a game that uses it's action combat system as a main sell, I can't see this a "super succesful" as it was rather slow and dull, atleast in the beginning. Some say it get's better post lvl 20 thou..I'd say this is the MMO for the player who does not bother if the quests are poor but the action is good.
The Secret World is an attempt to make a MMO with inspiration from HP Lovecraft and King and is set in an alternate "our world", with much focus on story.
You can only have a very limited set of quests so that you wont loose focus on the things at hand. It also has a rather unique way with their skill wheel and that you don't "level" your characthers, you unlock skills in the wheel instead and can úse difrent builds for diffrent things all the time.. I'd say this is the MMO for the story hungry supernatural fans, that likes some action but also loves a great puzzle now and then and doesn't bother if a game has an instance or not.
Tera comes out this month, TSW you have no idea when it really will release. Remember, this is Funcom, the official dates are not necessarily solid.
So why not play Tera now and TSW later when it releases, could be a 4-6 month spread between the two.
you truly have no idea what you are talking about
TSW launches June 19th, June 15th for some of us
to the OP, try the TERA open beta then decide
I'll be very surprised if TSW launches on the 19th, and if it does there's a high probability the quality level won't be what it needs to be.
This is Funcom after all.
But your optimism is refreshing.
Optimism ?
Hmm..TSW was suppose to launch ...the 15 th of April if i'm not mistaken, or that was the official launch date that was postponed..So they have a good 2 months extra development time..Wich according to your post is "what they need"..
Can you please give me some links that backs up your claims that TSW is not or will not be ready for launch, all testings and videos claim othervise
Well, I don't have much to go on. Admittedly, much of it is on gut feel, past experience/track record of Funcom, and a few posts such as this one here from the recent PAX that makes me wonder.
If the game was really ready for launch, it should be following a traditional ramp up cycle and we should see more activity around an annouced open beta. (including plans to drop the NDA and a couple of press releases)
Now I just double checked, and found this on the offical TSW web site
"Open beta will not be initiated before Christmas, but will be a part of our strategy next year prior to our June 2012 launch."
Did I go to the wrong place, because it seems odd that this web page is so outdated, with neither an announced open beta yet nor did they bother to update the page with the latest pre-order information. (Yeah yeah, I know, they are too busy "polishing" TSW to waste any resources updating the web site, where have I heard that before?)
But assuming they are having an open beta they're going to have to get cracking. When AOC launched there was a clear open beta period and I was part of it.
So again, call it just a hunch, a lack of really solid information about the title in many areas, we know way more about GW2 than TSW at this point, GW2 is already going into open beta, and they don't even appear to be targeting a June release date.
But somehow Funcom is going to pull it off when ANET isn't going to try and appears to be way ahead of schedule and revealed much more of their title at the same point in time.
Let's turn it around on you and ask why you believe they are on track for a June release, I'd be interested in hearing.
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Imo im getting TERA, EA is worst for a reason, theyve failed every game ive ever played besides the old james bond series for consoles and BF3, they suck. secret world may "sound" amazing and i think it does but at the same time i know better than to trust EA by now. and i love TERA, im honestly not all that hyped about gw2 cause i dont have any experience with it and not interested in getting any, for now anyway. so out of all the new games TERA will be my main.
Tera comes out this month, TSW you have no idea when it really will release. Remember, this is Funcom, the official dates are not necessarily solid.
So why not play Tera now and TSW later when it releases, could be a 4-6 month spread between the two.
you truly have no idea what you are talking about
TSW launches June 19th, June 15th for some of us
to the OP, try the TERA open beta then decide
I'll be very surprised if TSW launches on the 19th, and if it does there's a high probability the quality level won't be what it needs to be.
This is Funcom after all.
But your optimism is refreshing.
Optimism ?
Hmm..TSW was suppose to launch ...the 15 th of April if i'm not mistaken, or that was the official launch date that was postponed..So they have a good 2 months extra development time..Wich according to your post is "what they need"..
Can you please give me some links that backs up your claims that TSW is not or will not be ready for launch, all testings and videos claim othervise
Well, I don't have much to go on. Admittedly, much of it is on gut feel, past experience/track record of Funcom, and a few posts such as this one here from the recent PAX that makes me wonder.
If the game was really ready for lauch, it should be following a traditional ramp up cycle and we should see more activity around an annouced open beta. (including plans to drop the NDA and a couple of press releases)
Now I just double checked, and found this on the offical TSW web site
"Open beta will not be initiated before Christmas, but will be a part of our strategy next year prior to our June 2012 launch."
Did I go to the wrong place, because it seems odd that this web page is so outdated, with neither an annouced open beta yet nor did they bother to update the page with the latest pre-order information. (Yeah yeah, I know, they are too busy "polishing" TSW to waste any resources updating the web site, where have I heard that before?)
But assuming they are having an open beta they're going to have to get cracking. When AOC launched there was a clear open beta period and I was part of it.
So again, call it just a hunch, a lack of really solid information about the title in many areas, we know way more about GW2 than TSW at this point, GW2 is already going into open beta, and they don't even appear to be targeting a June release date.
But somehow Funcom is going to pull it off when ANET isn't going to try and appears to be way ahead of schedule and revealed much more of their title at the same point in time.
Let's turn it around on you and ask why you believe they are on track for a June release, I'd be interested in hearing.
I belive that FunCom has learned from releasing Age of Conan to early ..They had an "open beta" for a game that was not "really ready". Now they have chosen a more subtle approach to the angry horde that is it's players..My guess is that it will be far more ready than Age of Conan was. They have taken their time with it...And as I said, the game was supposed to launch in april , It was the set date rather long, wich leads me to believe that ..this time they will be ..somewhat more "ready"
And..Yes I agree that "Open Beta" has become a traditional way of promoting your game , in this day and age , and some players more/less demands this. However if this is the right way of releasing a MMO or not..Well I'm sceptical..an open beta is just a way for many to play the game for free and then be done with it, I think an open beta destroys more than it helps in many cases.
Im sure that FunCom will have one thou, but it will be 1 or 2 weeks prior to release, so until then..We shall see
Tera comes out this month, TSW you have no idea when it really will release. Remember, this is Funcom, the official dates are not necessarily solid.
So why not play Tera now and TSW later when it releases, could be a 4-6 month spread between the two.
you truly have no idea what you are talking about
TSW launches June 19th, June 15th for some of us
to the OP, try the TERA open beta then decide
I'll be very surprised if TSW launches on the 19th, and if it does there's a high probability the quality level won't be what it needs to be.
This is Funcom after all.
But your optimism is refreshing.
Optimism ?
Hmm..TSW was suppose to launch ...the 15 th of April if i'm not mistaken, or that was the official launch date that was postponed..So they have a good 2 months extra development time..Wich according to your post is "what they need"..
Can you please give me some links that backs up your claims that TSW is not or will not be ready for launch, all testings and videos claim othervise
Well, I don't have much to go on. Admittedly, much of it is on gut feel, past experience/track record of Funcom, and a few posts such as this one here from the recent PAX that makes me wonder.
If the game was really ready for launch, it should be following a traditional ramp up cycle and we should see more activity around an annouced open beta. (including plans to drop the NDA and a couple of press releases)
Now I just double checked, and found this on the offical TSW web site
"Open beta will not be initiated before Christmas, but will be a part of our strategy next year prior to our June 2012 launch."
Did I go to the wrong place, because it seems odd that this web page is so outdated, with neither an announced open beta yet nor did they bother to update the page with the latest pre-order information. (Yeah yeah, I know, they are too busy "polishing" TSW to waste any resources updating the web site, where have I heard that before?)
But assuming they are having an open beta they're going to have to get cracking. When AOC launched there was a clear open beta period and I was part of it.
So again, call it just a hunch, a lack of really solid information about the title in many areas, we know way more about GW2 than TSW at this point, GW2 is already going into open beta, and they don't even appear to be targeting a June release date.
But somehow Funcom is going to pull it off when ANET isn't going to try and appears to be way ahead of schedule and revealed much more of their title at the same point in time.
Let's turn it around on you and ask why you believe they are on track for a June release, I'd be interested in hearing.
Closed beta is running since june 2011, and open beta is may 11th 2012.
that is why.
anyway, what I saw, makes me believe that the launch is going to have a little more bugs than SW:TOR launch, but I also believe that this time, the content is there, so you should expect to find a well done content in every part of the game.
by the way, the amount of Imersion you are going to get from this game is over 9000
Getting back to the OP, I really didn't like Tera very much. The mechanics were ok after a few minutes of getting used to but it seemed too..something. I am sure some aspects will be enjoyable but it isn't for me.
Getting back to the OP, I really didn't like Tera very much. The mechanics were ok after a few minutes of getting used to but it seemed too..something. I am sure some aspects will be enjoyable but it isn't for me.
Personally I would go TSW
It really comes down to taste. I absolutely hate the extreme Asian influence TERA has. Way too fake for me. Aion was borderline, blending between western and asian... so I could stomach it a bit.... but TERA... blehhh! Way too fake!
TSW is also a totally different game. More sandboxy due to the freefrom progression system and no levels. Something I really look forward too.
Tera comes out this month, TSW you have no idea when it really will release. Remember, this is Funcom, the official dates are not necessarily solid.
So why not play Tera now and TSW later when it releases, could be a 4-6 month spread between the two.
you truly have no idea what you are talking about
TSW launches June 19th, June 15th for some of us
to the OP, try the TERA open beta then decide
I'll be very surprised if TSW launches on the 19th, and if it does there's a high probability the quality level won't be what it needs to be.
This is Funcom after all.
But your optimism is refreshing.
Optimism ?
Hmm..TSW was suppose to launch ...the 15 th of April if i'm not mistaken, or that was the official launch date that was postponed..So they have a good 2 months extra development time..Wich according to your post is "what they need"..
Can you please give me some links that backs up your claims that TSW is not or will not be ready for launch, all testings and videos claim othervise
Well, I don't have much to go on. Admittedly, much of it is on gut feel, past experience/track record of Funcom, and a few posts such as this one here from the recent PAX that makes me wonder.
If the game was really ready for launch, it should be following a traditional ramp up cycle and we should see more activity around an annouced open beta. (including plans to drop the NDA and a couple of press releases)
Now I just double checked, and found this on the offical TSW web site
"Open beta will not be initiated before Christmas, but will be a part of our strategy next year prior to our June 2012 launch."
Did I go to the wrong place, because it seems odd that this web page is so outdated, with neither an announced open beta yet nor did they bother to update the page with the latest pre-order information. (Yeah yeah, I know, they are too busy "polishing" TSW to waste any resources updating the web site, where have I heard that before?)
But assuming they are having an open beta they're going to have to get cracking. When AOC launched there was a clear open beta period and I was part of it.
So again, call it just a hunch, a lack of really solid information about the title in many areas, we know way more about GW2 than TSW at this point, GW2 is already going into open beta, and they don't even appear to be targeting a June release date.
But somehow Funcom is going to pull it off when ANET isn't going to try and appears to be way ahead of schedule and revealed much more of their title at the same point in time.
Let's turn it around on you and ask why you believe they are on track for a June release, I'd be interested in hearing.
Closed beta is running since june 2011, and open beta is may 11th 2012.
that is why.
anyway, what I saw, makes me believe that the launch is going to have a little more bugs than SW:TOR launch, but I also believe that this time, the content is there, so you should expect to find a well done content in every part of the game.
by the way, the amount of Imersion you are going to get from this game is over 9000
I stand corrected, seems one has to go to other gaming sites like this one to get correct Beta information, silly me for checking a link on Funcom's website. It may launch in June, I still question the quality, but we'll soon see apparently
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I'm looking for a game with smooth gameplay, and just for it to feel fluid like WoW was/is.
Which of these two is most fluid.
I would recomend TSW. I think Tera (and this is my opinion) is WoW clone# 274 to comne out since 2004. If you want a game similar to WoW, that has the same leveling structure as WoW and does nothing to push the MMO genre further then I might pick Tera. I played 2 CBT's and the game was as boring, uninspiring and bad as an MMO can get.
I wouldnt trust Funcom with a 10' pole but at least TSW has broken the mold and decided to be as innovative as one can be in an MMO so you gotta give them some props for that. TSW might suck but I would play it over Tera because it actually trys to innovate.
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I'm looking for a game with smooth gameplay, and just for it to feel fluid like WoW was/is.
Which of these two is most fluid.
I would recomend TSW. I think Tera (and this is my opinion) is WoW clone# 274 to comne out since 2004. If you want a game similar to WoW, that has the same leveling structure as WoW and does nothing to push the MMO genre further then I might pick Tera. I played 2 CBT's and the game was as boring, uninspiring and bad as an MMO can get.
I wouldnt trust Funcom with a 10' pole but at least TSW has broken the mold and decided to be as innovative as one can be in an MMO so you gotta give them some props for that. TSW might suck but I would play it over Tera because it actually trys to innovate.
Newsflash: EVERY Funcom MMO has broken the mold at the time of it's launch. Anarchy Online being the game that broke the mold more than any of the others.
1. Instanced Dungeons
2. Instant dungeon quest hubs
3. The most intricate and precise skillpoint system
4. futuristic with a very "Dante's Inferno" feel
5. Action oriented combat with skills
6. Finishers (that also grant stamina recovery)
7. horse sprint
8. First game to raise difficulty level on an expansion rather than max level of characters.
The list goes on....Funcom is the one company that ALWAYS tries to outdo itself and any other competitor...the other competitors just try to cash in.
I'm looking for a game with smooth gameplay, and just for it to feel fluid like WoW was/is.
Which of these two is most fluid.
I would recomend TSW. I think Tera (and this is my opinion) is WoW clone# 274 to comne out since 2004. If you want a game similar to WoW, that has the same leveling structure as WoW and does nothing to push the MMO genre further then I might pick Tera. I played 2 CBT's and the game was as boring, uninspiring and bad as an MMO can get.
I wouldnt trust Funcom with a 10' pole but at least TSW has broken the mold and decided to be as innovative as one can be in an MMO so you gotta give them some props for that. TSW might suck but I would play it over Tera because it actually trys to innovate.
Newsflash: EVERY Funcom MMO has broken the mold at the time of it's launch. Anarchy Online being the game that broke the mold more than any of the others.
1. Instanced Dungeons
2. Instant dungeon quest hubs
3. The most intricate and precise skillpoint system
4. futuristic with a very "Dante's Inferno" feel
5. Action oriented combat with skills
6. Finishers (that also grant stamina recovery)
7. horse sprint
8. First game to raise difficulty level on an expansion rather than max level of characters.
The list goes on....Funcom is the one company that ALWAYS tries to outdo itself and any other competitor...the other competitors just try to cash in.
What point you trying to make? I said that TSW is trying to be innovative, then you get mad for saying it is innovative and proceed to give me a whole slew of reasons why it will be innovative? DA Fuq! Just because I dissed Funcom (with very good reason) as a preface to a compliment doesnt make it wrong.
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What have you actually played in TSW? Your comments Are totally different then that from people who have actually played it. Likehttp://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/11/pax-east-2012-exploring-the-dark-corners-of-the-secret-world/
Or http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/05/the-secret-world-reveals-hell/
I played tera it's not worth it for a monthly sub although i haven't played sw to tell u if it's worth it.
You can't compare promises to a game. At the moment TSW is only promises of a game, but people haven't had enough chances to play to really know about the game itself. TERA has had multiple beta weekends so it's already possible to evaluate it as a game.
Do you want to buy Funcom's promises or TERA?
Try before you buy, it's that simple. If GW2 doesn't have an open beta as GW1 did, i will be reluctant to buy it, regardless of the ridiculous amount of footage I've seen of it.
This game has very little footage, no open beta (yet.. we'll see) and offers a lifetime sub as if it were expecting an early doom.
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This is my personal opinion, i tried tera and i never got into it as it just bored me to death, but why do people say bad things about funcom, im sure thay done 2 good mmo's anarchy and age of conan and both going strong today plus funcom have a acount system where you can play free and only have so much you can do and pay where everything is unlocked.
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I think TSW is a game for you if you want to get involved in the story and use your brain while doing quests. TSW to me is a bit of adventure game/mmorpg crossover. The character development system is also quite different from what you are used to. All 500+ skills available to any character and you get to compose your own from 7active+7passive. Different compositions will be good in different situations and you can change between them whenever out of combat. You can also save your favourite ones together with the gear that fits the composition.
TSW is a Funcom game which atleast earlier has ment that its going to be moderatly hard. In addition the quite flat power curve of the vertical progression which means that after reaching the top of the vertical power curve you can expand your character horizontally with lots of content still at a good difficulty.
TSW looks to have some of the best dungeons in the game and if you get tired of your current role or if the party you are in is missing on tanking, healing or dps, you aren't stuck. You can just change things around. A very good read is this article: http://www.pcgamer.com/previews/secret-world-dungeons/
From the conclusion of the article above:
Closing notes
The almost complete lack of trash mobs kept this dungeon moving along. Every fight felt important because there was a big guy with a unique mechanic involved. But even boss fights can often be boring in MMOs–TSW’s stood out to me as particularly fun, mostly due to their insistence on keeping you guessing and forcing you to work to accomplish your role. As a tank, it was REALLY hard to keep aggro, but the game is balanced with that in mind. People don’t die as quickly as they do in most MMOs, so me losing aggro didn’t mean our group would wipe. Instead, my job seemed to be to struggle and improvise to hold aggro as much as possible. My allies can take hits from time to time, but they can’t hold it forever–so there was still pressure to regain aggro as quickly as possible. It’s a hardcore design in line with Funcom’s desire to make TSW a difficult game that refuses to hold players hands. The result is a dungeon that consistently delivers those fast-paced shots of adrenaline that any tank will be familiar with: that feeling of panic when you lose aggro and have to improvise to get it back before someone dies.
I would not buy TSW if I was into twitch combat, it's not that kind of game. If you hate puzzles or want a game that is easy and straight forward, I would skip it as well. No idea what the OP is since WoW originally was pretty hardcore, while lately it seems it's more of a easy mode casual game your grandmother could pick up and enjoy...
I'll be taking the wait and see a few months out approach with The Secret World and Tera. TSW has me a bit worried with the lifetime subscription from the start. When I see lifetime subscription, I see "we don't think this game is worth paying for on a monthly basis for years to come". Sounds a bit silly and probably is, but it makes me a bit wary of it.
Tera seems too anime for me but I'll be waiting a few months to see how it goes.
I've been burnt by so many mmo's the past few years that didn't pan out to be any good, I don't want to waste my time or money on them if it's not a solid product. I'm not as forgiving with mmo companies as I once was. You have one chance to grab me and keep me, after the first month you have to work to keep me.
It amazes me that people these days are fine with mediocrity when a game that's been in development for over 5 years comes out and doesn't even have basic features expected in today's mmo's. I think that's part of the problem we have with mmo's. The customers are too much fanobois they don't hold the companies accountable for the slop they keep producing, and why should they produce better when the fanbois will pay for mediocrity and lap it up like pigs.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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You realize the secret world was supposed to come out april 29th right? It was delayed 2 months. SO why is it he doesnt know what he is talking about when he suggests it could happen again?
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Everyone who says bad things about funcom remembers age of conan at launch. The hype vs the truth.
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Just my own opinion and not knocking the game or people that want to play it but Tera was not worth the time or effort to pay a subscription. I thought when I first read about it I thought it would be great but when I got into beta it lost my interest all together the game mechanics just did not do it for me I tried to go more along the lines of the story and that did not do it for me either. It may have great potential higher in the game but if it lost my attention the first 30 lvls I would never make it.
As for Secret World I have yet to make any choice in the matter since it has been delayed and only can either read the newsletter sent to me on the game progress maybe one of these days in an open beta I can acutally comment on it or when more game articles from other places become readily available.
Other then that the only game I guess I will be playing is GW2.
TERA
without a doubt is the game for you, its smooth, good combat. Tsw is bulky slow combat and does not appear to be a smooth game, doesnt matter what anyone else sais, tera is the game for you. Has immersion smoothness and everything your looking for. I have seen alot of gameplay videos of tsw and can already tell it will be an average game at best, but i have played TERA closed beta and can tell you that its one hell of a game, and most likely mmo of the year. So yeah without a doubt the game for you is Tera its released soon anyway so enjoy
Optimism ?
Hmm..TSW was suppose to launch ...the 15 th of April if i'm not mistaken, or that was the official launch date that was postponed..So they have a good 2 months extra development time..Wich according to your post is "what they need"..
Can you please give me some links that backs up your claims that TSW is not or will not be ready for launch, all testings and videos claim othervise
My suggestion to this is..
They are VERY diffrent games, almost diffrent genres..Both are MMO's thou..
Whike Tera is focusing on "a sort of action combat" and a rather picturesque world and maybe not so big focus on quests and story. It's a traditional and manga inspired fantasy fair..For a game that uses it's action combat system as a main sell, I can't see this a "super succesful" as it was rather slow and dull, atleast in the beginning. Some say it get's better post lvl 20 thou..I'd say this is the MMO for the player who does not bother if the quests are poor but the action is good.
The Secret World is an attempt to make a MMO with inspiration from HP Lovecraft and King and is set in an alternate "our world", with much focus on story.
You can only have a very limited set of quests so that you wont loose focus on the things at hand. It also has a rather unique way with their skill wheel and that you don't "level" your characthers, you unlock skills in the wheel instead and can úse difrent builds for diffrent things all the time.. I'd say this is the MMO for the story hungry supernatural fans, that likes some action but also loves a great puzzle now and then and doesn't bother if a game has an instance or not.
Well, I don't have much to go on. Admittedly, much of it is on gut feel, past experience/track record of Funcom, and a few posts such as this one here from the recent PAX that makes me wonder.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/346230/So-I-got-to-try-The-Secret-World-at-PAX.html
If the game was really ready for launch, it should be following a traditional ramp up cycle and we should see more activity around an annouced open beta. (including plans to drop the NDA and a couple of press releases)
Now I just double checked, and found this on the offical TSW web site
"Open beta will not be initiated before Christmas, but will be a part of our strategy next year prior to our June 2012 launch."
http://www.thesecretworld.com/news/the_secret_world_open_beta_clarification
Did I go to the wrong place, because it seems odd that this web page is so outdated, with neither an announced open beta yet nor did they bother to update the page with the latest pre-order information. (Yeah yeah, I know, they are too busy "polishing" TSW to waste any resources updating the web site, where have I heard that before?)
But assuming they are having an open beta they're going to have to get cracking. When AOC launched there was a clear open beta period and I was part of it.
So again, call it just a hunch, a lack of really solid information about the title in many areas, we know way more about GW2 than TSW at this point, GW2 is already going into open beta, and they don't even appear to be targeting a June release date.
But somehow Funcom is going to pull it off when ANET isn't going to try and appears to be way ahead of schedule and revealed much more of their title at the same point in time.
Let's turn it around on you and ask why you believe they are on track for a June release, I'd be interested in hearing.
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Imo im getting TERA, EA is worst for a reason, theyve failed every game ive ever played besides the old james bond series for consoles and BF3, they suck. secret world may "sound" amazing and i think it does but at the same time i know better than to trust EA by now. and i love TERA, im honestly not all that hyped about gw2 cause i dont have any experience with it and not interested in getting any, for now anyway. so out of all the new games TERA will be my main.
I belive that FunCom has learned from releasing Age of Conan to early ..They had an "open beta" for a game that was not "really ready". Now they have chosen a more subtle approach to the angry horde that is it's players..My guess is that it will be far more ready than Age of Conan was. They have taken their time with it...And as I said, the game was supposed to launch in april , It was the set date rather long, wich leads me to believe that ..this time they will be ..somewhat more "ready"
And..Yes I agree that "Open Beta" has become a traditional way of promoting your game , in this day and age , and some players more/less demands this. However if this is the right way of releasing a MMO or not..Well I'm sceptical..an open beta is just a way for many to play the game for free and then be done with it, I think an open beta destroys more than it helps in many cases.
Im sure that FunCom will have one thou, but it will be 1 or 2 weeks prior to release, so until then..We shall see
Closed beta is running since june 2011, and open beta is may 11th 2012.
that is why.
anyway, what I saw, makes me believe that the launch is going to have a little more bugs than SW:TOR launch, but I also believe that this time, the content is there, so you should expect to find a well done content in every part of the game.
by the way, the amount of Imersion you are going to get from this game is over 9000
Getting back to the OP, I really didn't like Tera very much. The mechanics were ok after a few minutes of getting used to but it seemed too..something. I am sure some aspects will be enjoyable but it isn't for me.
Personally I would go TSW
It really comes down to taste. I absolutely hate the extreme Asian influence TERA has. Way too fake for me. Aion was borderline, blending between western and asian... so I could stomach it a bit.... but TERA... blehhh! Way too fake!
TSW is also a totally different game. More sandboxy due to the freefrom progression system and no levels. Something I really look forward too.
I stand corrected, seems one has to go to other gaming sites like this one to get correct Beta information, silly me for checking a link on Funcom's website. It may launch in June, I still question the quality, but we'll soon see apparently
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/03/the-secret-world-pre-orders-come-with-beta-access-available-now/
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I honestly would get TSW over TERA. That coming from me shocks even myself because I......used to really want TERA but honestly it's boring.
TSW is infinitely more interesting with infinite more potential.
I would recomend TSW. I think Tera (and this is my opinion) is WoW clone# 274 to comne out since 2004. If you want a game similar to WoW, that has the same leveling structure as WoW and does nothing to push the MMO genre further then I might pick Tera. I played 2 CBT's and the game was as boring, uninspiring and bad as an MMO can get.
I wouldnt trust Funcom with a 10' pole but at least TSW has broken the mold and decided to be as innovative as one can be in an MMO so you gotta give them some props for that. TSW might suck but I would play it over Tera because it actually trys to innovate.
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Newsflash: EVERY Funcom MMO has broken the mold at the time of it's launch. Anarchy Online being the game that broke the mold more than any of the others.
1. Instanced Dungeons
2. Instant dungeon quest hubs
3. The most intricate and precise skillpoint system
4. futuristic with a very "Dante's Inferno" feel
5. Action oriented combat with skills
6. Finishers (that also grant stamina recovery)
7. horse sprint
8. First game to raise difficulty level on an expansion rather than max level of characters.
The list goes on....Funcom is the one company that ALWAYS tries to outdo itself and any other competitor...the other competitors just try to cash in.
to the op.
dont buy any. Both are a piece of crap.
Take your gf out or buy some indie game :]
Giving you some sugestions:
- Legend of Grimrock
- Path of Exile
What point you trying to make? I said that TSW is trying to be innovative, then you get mad for saying it is innovative and proceed to give me a whole slew of reasons why it will be innovative? DA Fuq! Just because I dissed Funcom (with very good reason) as a preface to a compliment doesnt make it wrong.
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Legend of Grimrock was fun, but I beat it in 1 day. Very retro feel to it so would love to see a much longer version.
PoE is not a MMO.
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Next Flop: Planetside 2
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