The guy comes with some rational thinking, and then, people bash with irrational comments, I'm glad many of you are staying out of this game.
Just because what he says is often true. . and it is. . . it is not a good reason to buy a lifetime sub etc. Also AoC suffered from severe design issues and other things that ran into half a year to a year in length - not just launch.
Yeah it does sound like a "better be prepared to be disappointed" type of post...I dont remember people offering apologies for Rift or SWTOR before they launched.....Also whats the hurry??.....Taking a wait and see has been a great benefit for many games, often saving from making bad purchases.....SO many gamers have the "I must be the first one" attitude that they overpay and then get pissed because they feel they are entitled......Even for a game that looks interesting to me I'd jsut as soon wait...It isn't like we don't have hundreds of free titles out there already t oentertain while we get more info on TSW.
What have they screwed up? Show your work. I am not appologising for anyone. I am simply stating a fact that launches tend to be rocky and should be given a chance to get all the bugs out when they go live.
Where have they screwed up? Are you serious right now?
Anarchy Online: I purchase the game. Me and my little brother are ecstatic. We were huge Ultima Online fans and AO was an scifi MMO. Pure win, right? Wrong! My CD-Key doesn't work. Upon contacting Funcom support, I received a reply about a week later. I have to fax them over a copy of my proof of purchase, a copy of my credit card and a copy of my government ID. I live in United States, Funcom is located in Norway. Back in 2001, I had to find a fax machine and fax over private information to a country on the other side of the world. Why? Not because I messed up but because Funcom's CD-Key did not work. Good enough for a screw up? Moving on.
Age of Conan: To make the long story short, I followed the game for a while. It had everything: great graphics, fun combat, interesting lore but most importantly: mounted combat! I get into the beta and the game runs almost flawlessly. No serious issues and I'm getting an average of 30 FPS. I'm good to go, right? Wrong! Right before the game launches, Funcom releases a "miracle patch" which drops my FPS to bellow 10. So, did I mess up or was it a Funcom screw up? Mind you, I'm just talking about my person experience with the game. I'm not going to get into the fact that the game did a complete 180 after Tortage.
Why does your guild sent that letter out to it's members anyway? Are you guys indoctrinating them? I mean you're practically telling your members what to think.
Im sorry but regardless of if Funcom sucks or not the fact that you are shocked and angry that he hasnt personally heard of the sad story of you and your brother is extremely humorous to me.
Anarchy Online had one of the most horrible launches in history of MMOs. Majority of the people who purchased AO at launch had serious issues but my story was just that, my personal experience with it.
Thanks for the read, OP. I agree with most of what was written. I wish your guild good luck in your TSW endeavor!
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
The reality, concerning Misters Zippy and Derp, is that because the market is full of games that've had 3-4-5+ years to develop content, games releasing now need to be able to compete with that content out of the gate. You can't expect a player base to wait around, hanging on a promise when another game offers a similar experience with much more content.
Doesn't sound like a "better be prepared to be disappointed" post to me. I think there is a lot of people that want to say good things about the game but are bound by NDA. The people that are in beta who hate the game have no problem with breaking NDA and telling you how much they hate it. From the posts that have been on here before the mods delete them seem few and far between.
I'll be there day one, bugs and all just as I've done with other MMOs and their opening day launch problems.
Bugs will happen at MMO launch... but only so many are really acceptable. WoW, Vanguard, AoC, Anarchy Online, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Star Wars Galaxies, etc. were absolutely infested with game-breaking bugs & problems at launch, which especially in this day and age is completely unacceptable.
By comparison, games such as Rift, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons & Dragons Online, SWTOR, and others have launched with relatively few problems & bugs (Rift and LOTRO had incredibly smooth launches), so games being buggy at launch is certainly NOT a universal truth.
I hope for the sake of both Funcom and its fans that TSW falls into the latter category. But given FunCom's track record, I'm not exactly keeping said hopes very high.
I have been watching this game for years and I am convinced it will be great. Mostly this post was to remind people that their will be bugs. I am not saying they will be horrible or am I saying that they will be minor, I am simply stating there will be bugs. There will be overwhelmed customer service. I think certain people are reading to much into the post. The most basic meaning behind this post is simple.
Be patient if there are bugs.
All of the PAX coverage I have read about TSW points to a smooth running game. Here is hoping that this industry changer will be smooth at launch.
Thank you to those of you that have found this post informative.
In Swtor i did every quest on my sith warrior, every class quest every side quest, every repeatable quest at least once. I did every instance one time, and i did each space mission at least one time as well.
A week later i maxed out affected with all my companions, and a week after that i had full columi and 3 piece rakata. 3 days after that i maxed out an imperial agent, operative, in the same manner. Total play time about 3 and a half weeks for 2 max level characters who finished all the content.
I hit max level in 4 days. Am i Mister Zippy or Mister Derp?
How about we start putting the onus on the devolopers to stop releasing unfinished games. If they want people to explore, then give me a reason to explore, if you want me to take longer, then make the game take longer, add more grind, steeper leveling curves.
If you create a game for the casual players, then dont give hardcore players shit because they didnt stop being hardcore.
Quotations Those Who make peaceful resolutions impossible, make violent resolutions inevitable. John F. Kennedy
Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman
Lie to no one. If there 's somebody close to you, you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, who the fuck are they you gotta lie to them? - Willy Nelson
The reality, concerning Misters Zippy and Derp, is that because the market is full of games that've had 3-4-5+ years to develop content, games releasing now need to be able to compete with that content out of the gate. You can't expect a player base to wait around, hanging on a promise when another game offers a similar experience with much more content.
LOL @ all the people who are looking too far deep into what the OP really means.
There are five things you need to know about launch
1. The game will be Buggy as hell and Full of Glitchs
2. Not all the Content will be in yet. End game? might not be in.
3. Big Reality Check here because I always see people complaining about PvP everytime when a MMO is released, The game will not be balanced for PvP
4. Game may crash, or might not run properly.
5. Lastly, and most Important. Don't hype yourself up, or listen to the PR BS. Because most likely you will be dissapointed if you expected something more out of The Secret World. If you go out and pre-order it and complain you got ripped off. Thats your own fault. No one elses. Do your research before Buying. See what your friends think of the game.
Oh noes that must mean that I'm talking badly about the game!! How dare he! :O
How can you be taken seriously? You list five bulleted "Facts" none of which are actually facts in anyway shape or form. Nothing is verifiable, it's all opinion and comentary
Beyond that, there have been smooth launces. Just not Funcom. And you sound like you are prepping the comunity to bare with disappointment.
Pretty much said what I was thinking. I hope it's a good game, would love for 3 or 4 good mmo's to come out this year and start some real competition between all the companies to try and keep us all entertained and work harder making games better for us. I know I'm dreaming but hey It could happen some day.
So far it's not looking good atm though. Bioware can't wipe their tush without smearing poo all over their bum cheeks atm.
Really is amusing when people still try to imply the AOC launch was somehow the norm for mmo launches. Only thing I will agree with is the notion that how a company did with a past game does not necessarily mean it will be the same for their next one.
Hope so for their sake.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
This is a letter that we sent out to members of my guild. I thought it pertinent enough to share with the TSW Community as well as those looking to buy this game.
I'm glad you are excited about this game and I have high hopes for it as well. FC is a good company.
That said, They have had two of the most notably abysmal launches in launch history and speaking as someone who played though one of them, I don't wish it on anyone.
But what, in my mind, is different this time is a change in the game director. In truth, had the game director for AOC and AO been handling this right now you'd probably already have TSW launched, it would just make your eyes bleed constantly.
The reality, concerning Misters Zippy and Derp, is that because the market is full of games that've had 3-4-5+ years to develop content, games releasing now need to be able to compete with that content out of the gate. You can't expect a player base to wait around, hanging on a promise when another game offers a similar experience with much more content.
The game can have 6+ years of development and CANT be finished on launch because a MMO evolves, it has to have space for that... The players will have feedback, things will happens and the game will develop from there... MMO is always an incomplete game and it needs to be, unless the MMO isnt really a MMO but an online gaming frozen experience, maybe GW1 was like that and GW2 will be also, I dont know, but I never bothered because a MMO lacked content on highend... I always enjoied going real slow in my gaming, feeling the atmosphere, reading the quests, exploring, RPing, etc... Meanwhile a few friends of mine were already complaining about the highend... MMO isnt a single game, its an ever evolving experience.
The guy comes with some rational thinking, and then, people bash with irrational comments, I'm glad many of you are staying out of this game.
This.
I wouldn't call them 'facts' like the OP did, but pointers or 'things to keep in mind'. OP gives advice to keep people's expectations realistic and not overblown for an MMO launch, somehow there are people who like to take a piss on such an appeal to common sense. Typical
I don't see what's wrong with keeping in mind that a game won't be flawless at launch, that there'll be annoying things, and that a game at launch just won't have the amount of content that it'll have after a few years or that other major MMO's have that have been out for a few years and that have several expansions under the belt. Sounds all sensible to me, including that being nice will get you farther than going on temper tantrums and spraying the persons you want something to do for you under with your rage spit.
Ah well, the usual mmorpg.com stuff I guess, just hopped by.
You need look no further than the horrid animations to realize that this game is, like all Funcom titles, releasing much too early. When will they, or the people that buy Funcom games, learn? Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy Funcom games...a year after they release anyways.
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AoC sucked because the game needed about 6 more months of development and testing before it was released. The problem is is that ame companies rush games out too much.
I have friends in the SEcret World Beta. that game went from my (other game I'll play this summer) to not a chance. The game is horribly buggy, to the point where abilities cause freezing... a lot. The cut scenes are still very choppy as well. From the description, it seems like a long way from a june release.
Unfotuantley games will continue to be released too early so logn as we support them. Heck, they factor that into why they release them early.
Hahaha this is hilarious! People apologizing for Funcom ahead of the release.
Maybe all funcom game launches were disasters but generalizing this to all MMOs is wrong.
I'd like someone to name one MMO that didn't have at least one of the problems in the OP. Would what he said be an exaggeration of sorts in regard to certain individual games? yes, but overall the entire post was correct. And good advice for those expecting that perfect game they always seem to be looking for. It's quite simple really if you can't handle the stuff the op said, don't play MMO's at launch.
I doubt I will play TSW at this point, it doesn't seem to be an overall game I'd enjoy even though I do have an interest in the setting.
That said, at this point those who cry foul over the stuff mentioned in the OP should be shunned from forums IMO. I am sick and tired of forums blowing up over this stuff for 3-6 months at a time over and over and over again. Especially considering who's making ths game, their track record is well known, so well known I have no need of explaining the point. IF you're willing to give them your money that's on you.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I find the responses to the OP odd. Normally we get posts by either Haters or Fanboi's. And when a fanboi posts about how the new game is going to be the greatest game since sliced bread, people complain about their blind devotion to a game that hasn't even launched.
Here is a post about a game, where the poster hasn't "Drank the cool-aid" he is talking about the new game but also saying, let's not go overboard with our devotion. Good for the OP. Nice to see someone post about a game that isn't over praising it or just trolling it.
The reason why MMORPGs nowdays feel rushed and have "no content" at the launch is simply because the grind for cap is too easy. SWTOR is a good example because it had like 3x the quests you needed to complete to get out of a certain level range (planet) and move to the next one. Back in the day when hitting the cap actually took you like 1-2 months even going HC (like Lineage 2) you undoubtedly had things to do "content" while the developers got a fair amount of time to release the next "major patch".
There are very few things in western MMORPGS you can say "I'll probably get that in 3 months if I keep playing.." everything is really fast to the get and usually with very little challenge. One thing that comes to mind is WoW HM raid legendaries that require multiple months of raiding (artificial bloker) once per week and the guild needs to give you the items for the legendary since only 1-2 drops each time.
If your "MMORPG" takes 3 days played to hit the cap, you should have shitloads of content to offer at the endgame. Only games with a good _endgame_ grind I have played are EvE, AoC, Rift and FFXI. These games REWARD YOU for playing a single toon for months and months. SWTOR also had a nice idea with the legacy trees but these are complete bullshit with very little to no use.
I'm sincerely hoping with TSW
A) Getting 525 abilities takes atleast a month played.
There's point for me to get these 525 abilities (blocked dungeons are supposed to do this)
C) There's more content added while I'm trying to beat the current content.
Hahaha this is hilarious! People apologizing for Funcom ahead of the release.
Maybe all funcom game launches were disasters but generalizing this to all MMOs is wrong.
I'd like someone to name one MMO that didn't have at least one of the problems in the OP. Would what he said be an exaggeration of sorts in regard to certain individual games? yes, but overall the entire post was correct. And good advice for those expecting that perfect game they always seem to be looking for. It's quite simple really if you can't handle the stuff the op said, don't play MMO's at launch.
I doubt I will play TSW at this point, it doesn't seem to be an overall game I'd enjoy even though I do have an interest in the setting.
That said, at this point those who cry foul over the stuff mentioned in the OP should be shunned from forums IMO. I am sick and tired of forums blowing up over this stuff for 3-6 months at a time over and over and over again. Especially considering who's making ths game, their track record is well known, so well known I have no need of explaining the point. IF you're willing to give them your money that's on you.
this is true all mmos have grumpy launch but i do remember one launch there wasnt that much faults and it was rift.
As poo pooing men, who took the time to do 4 reviews after beta and launch, i just got one question
How do you believe in quality, if the team of conan is not able to fix bugs in tortage who exist since beta?
-The old woman in the catacombs is until today sometimes "invisible"
-quests and quest tracker do not work proper, well if the way it works is as intended, then ill shut up about it, but to be honest, do you think it should work this way? its more confusion than information.
-does the 5.1 bug since august 2011 still exist?
There so many tiny and some major (maybe not gamebraking) bugs, but they dont fix them.
Its right what you told about beeing patient, and be aware of the fact its a launch, but the way you are telling it to us, you dont seem to be someone who made many launches.
Have you seen the launch of rift, and how trion solved problems? In my eyes a really big difference.
So i am again and again asking myself the question above, in my mind that one person can do a 180° turn, but a whole team or firm philosophy?
I wont buy anything from NOFUNCOM until i can test it priceless.
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Just because what he says is often true. . and it is. . . it is not a good reason to buy a lifetime sub etc. Also AoC suffered from severe design issues and other things that ran into half a year to a year in length - not just launch.
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Yeah it does sound like a "better be prepared to be disappointed" type of post...I dont remember people offering apologies for Rift or SWTOR before they launched.....Also whats the hurry??.....Taking a wait and see has been a great benefit for many games, often saving from making bad purchases.....SO many gamers have the "I must be the first one" attitude that they overpay and then get pissed because they feel they are entitled......Even for a game that looks interesting to me I'd jsut as soon wait...It isn't like we don't have hundreds of free titles out there already t oentertain while we get more info on TSW.
Anarchy Online had one of the most horrible launches in history of MMOs. Majority of the people who purchased AO at launch had serious issues but my story was just that, my personal experience with it.
Thanks for the read, OP. I agree with most of what was written. I wish your guild good luck in your TSW endeavor!
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Doesn't sound like a "better be prepared to be disappointed" post to me. I think there is a lot of people that want to say good things about the game but are bound by NDA. The people that are in beta who hate the game have no problem with breaking NDA and telling you how much they hate it. From the posts that have been on here before the mods delete them seem few and far between.
I'll be there day one, bugs and all just as I've done with other MMOs and their opening day launch problems.
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Agree with everything but point 1.
Bugs will happen at MMO launch... but only so many are really acceptable. WoW, Vanguard, AoC, Anarchy Online, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Star Wars Galaxies, etc. were absolutely infested with game-breaking bugs & problems at launch, which especially in this day and age is completely unacceptable.
By comparison, games such as Rift, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons & Dragons Online, SWTOR, and others have launched with relatively few problems & bugs (Rift and LOTRO had incredibly smooth launches), so games being buggy at launch is certainly NOT a universal truth.
I hope for the sake of both Funcom and its fans that TSW falls into the latter category. But given FunCom's track record, I'm not exactly keeping said hopes very high.
I have been watching this game for years and I am convinced it will be great. Mostly this post was to remind people that their will be bugs. I am not saying they will be horrible or am I saying that they will be minor, I am simply stating there will be bugs. There will be overwhelmed customer service. I think certain people are reading to much into the post. The most basic meaning behind this post is simple.
Be patient if there are bugs.
All of the PAX coverage I have read about TSW points to a smooth running game. Here is hoping that this industry changer will be smooth at launch.
Thank you to those of you that have found this post informative.
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So...
In Swtor i did every quest on my sith warrior, every class quest every side quest, every repeatable quest at least once. I did every instance one time, and i did each space mission at least one time as well.
A week later i maxed out affected with all my companions, and a week after that i had full columi and 3 piece rakata. 3 days after that i maxed out an imperial agent, operative, in the same manner. Total play time about 3 and a half weeks for 2 max level characters who finished all the content.
I hit max level in 4 days. Am i Mister Zippy or Mister Derp?
How about we start putting the onus on the devolopers to stop releasing unfinished games. If they want people to explore, then give me a reason to explore, if you want me to take longer, then make the game take longer, add more grind, steeper leveling curves.
If you create a game for the casual players, then dont give hardcore players shit because they didnt stop being hardcore.
Quotations Those Who make peaceful resolutions impossible, make violent resolutions inevitable. John F. Kennedy
Life... is the shit that happens while you wait for moments that never come - Lester Freeman
Lie to no one. If there 's somebody close to you, you'll ruin it with a lie. If they're a stranger, who the fuck are they you gotta lie to them? - Willy Nelson
I agree.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
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LOL @ all the people who are looking too far deep into what the OP really means.
There are five things you need to know about launch
1. The game will be Buggy as hell and Full of Glitchs
2. Not all the Content will be in yet. End game? might not be in.
3. Big Reality Check here because I always see people complaining about PvP everytime when a MMO is released, The game will not be balanced for PvP
4. Game may crash, or might not run properly.
5. Lastly, and most Important. Don't hype yourself up, or listen to the PR BS. Because most likely you will be dissapointed if you expected something more out of The Secret World. If you go out and pre-order it and complain you got ripped off. Thats your own fault. No one elses. Do your research before Buying. See what your friends think of the game.
Oh noes that must mean that I'm talking badly about the game!! How dare he! :O
I laughed hard
Really is amusing when people still try to imply the AOC launch was somehow the norm for mmo launches. Only thing I will agree with is the notion that how a company did with a past game does not necessarily mean it will be the same for their next one.
Hope so for their sake.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
The game can have 6+ years of development and CANT be finished on launch because a MMO evolves, it has to have space for that... The players will have feedback, things will happens and the game will develop from there... MMO is always an incomplete game and it needs to be, unless the MMO isnt really a MMO but an online gaming frozen experience, maybe GW1 was like that and GW2 will be also, I dont know, but I never bothered because a MMO lacked content on highend... I always enjoied going real slow in my gaming, feeling the atmosphere, reading the quests, exploring, RPing, etc... Meanwhile a few friends of mine were already complaining about the highend... MMO isnt a single game, its an ever evolving experience.
This.
I wouldn't call them 'facts' like the OP did, but pointers or 'things to keep in mind'. OP gives advice to keep people's expectations realistic and not overblown for an MMO launch, somehow there are people who like to take a piss on such an appeal to common sense. Typical
I don't see what's wrong with keeping in mind that a game won't be flawless at launch, that there'll be annoying things, and that a game at launch just won't have the amount of content that it'll have after a few years or that other major MMO's have that have been out for a few years and that have several expansions under the belt. Sounds all sensible to me, including that being nice will get you farther than going on temper tantrums and spraying the persons you want something to do for you under with your rage spit.
Ah well, the usual mmorpg.com stuff I guess, just hopped by.
/leaves thread again.
If FunCom doesn't get it right the third time, I think I am going to try and get a job there, because obviously they don't believe in firing people.
You need look no further than the horrid animations to realize that this game is, like all Funcom titles, releasing much too early. When will they, or the people that buy Funcom games, learn? Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy Funcom games...a year after they release anyways.
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AoC sucked because the game needed about 6 more months of development and testing before it was released. The problem is is that ame companies rush games out too much.
I have friends in the SEcret World Beta. that game went from my (other game I'll play this summer) to not a chance. The game is horribly buggy, to the point where abilities cause freezing... a lot. The cut scenes are still very choppy as well. From the description, it seems like a long way from a june release.
Unfotuantley games will continue to be released too early so logn as we support them. Heck, they factor that into why they release them early.
"who cares, we'll fix it later with patch 1.4
I'd like someone to name one MMO that didn't have at least one of the problems in the OP. Would what he said be an exaggeration of sorts in regard to certain individual games? yes, but overall the entire post was correct. And good advice for those expecting that perfect game they always seem to be looking for. It's quite simple really if you can't handle the stuff the op said, don't play MMO's at launch.
I doubt I will play TSW at this point, it doesn't seem to be an overall game I'd enjoy even though I do have an interest in the setting.
That said, at this point those who cry foul over the stuff mentioned in the OP should be shunned from forums IMO. I am sick and tired of forums blowing up over this stuff for 3-6 months at a time over and over and over again. Especially considering who's making ths game, their track record is well known, so well known I have no need of explaining the point. IF you're willing to give them your money that's on you.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I find the responses to the OP odd. Normally we get posts by either Haters or Fanboi's. And when a fanboi posts about how the new game is going to be the greatest game since sliced bread, people complain about their blind devotion to a game that hasn't even launched.
Here is a post about a game, where the poster hasn't "Drank the cool-aid" he is talking about the new game but also saying, let's not go overboard with our devotion. Good for the OP. Nice to see someone post about a game that isn't over praising it or just trolling it.
The reason why MMORPGs nowdays feel rushed and have "no content" at the launch is simply because the grind for cap is too easy. SWTOR is a good example because it had like 3x the quests you needed to complete to get out of a certain level range (planet) and move to the next one. Back in the day when hitting the cap actually took you like 1-2 months even going HC (like Lineage 2) you undoubtedly had things to do "content" while the developers got a fair amount of time to release the next "major patch".
There are very few things in western MMORPGS you can say "I'll probably get that in 3 months if I keep playing.." everything is really fast to the get and usually with very little challenge. One thing that comes to mind is WoW HM raid legendaries that require multiple months of raiding (artificial bloker) once per week and the guild needs to give you the items for the legendary since only 1-2 drops each time.
If your "MMORPG" takes 3 days played to hit the cap, you should have shitloads of content to offer at the endgame. Only games with a good _endgame_ grind I have played are EvE, AoC, Rift and FFXI. These games REWARD YOU for playing a single toon for months and months. SWTOR also had a nice idea with the legacy trees but these are complete bullshit with very little to no use.
I'm sincerely hoping with TSW
A) Getting 525 abilities takes atleast a month played.
C) There's more content added while I'm trying to beat the current content.
same here . good analyzing. thumbs up.
this is true all mmos have grumpy launch but i do remember one launch there wasnt that much faults and it was rift.
As poo pooing men, who took the time to do 4 reviews after beta and launch, i just got one question
How do you believe in quality, if the team of conan is not able to fix bugs in tortage who exist since beta?
-The old woman in the catacombs is until today sometimes "invisible"
-quests and quest tracker do not work proper, well if the way it works is as intended, then ill shut up about it, but to be honest, do you think it should work this way? its more confusion than information.
-does the 5.1 bug since august 2011 still exist?
There so many tiny and some major (maybe not gamebraking) bugs, but they dont fix them.
Its right what you told about beeing patient, and be aware of the fact its a launch, but the way you are telling it to us, you dont seem to be someone who made many launches.
Have you seen the launch of rift, and how trion solved problems? In my eyes a really big difference.
So i am again and again asking myself the question above, in my mind that one person can do a 180° turn, but a whole team or firm philosophy?
I wont buy anything from NOFUNCOM until i can test it priceless.