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How bad does a F2P game have to be before you uninstall?
elocke
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It's one thing to uninstall sub games that tick you off and you felt as if you were robbed. But what about F2P games or ones that went F2P? Considering it didn't cost you anything to install and play, is it even worse or more telling of a game's quality that it didn't even last on your PC in it's F2P form?
I bring this up due to 2 games I recently uninstalled that are F2P. Aion and DDO. I tried very hard to get into these 2 games, I mean why not, they're free. But to me, they just fail in every aspect. Heck, I still have Free Realms on my computer and that's saying something.
Granted, I've removed F2P games that I tried for about a day and just didn't get hooked as I felt they were junk, but games that had triple AAA development costs shouldn't feel the same, should they? Anywho, just curious to how others perceive this curious case of supposedly "good" games not being "good" at all.
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i tried about 20 F2P games in the last years. i de-installed them all about level 5-30. i never came up to a point, where the cash-shop could really start to hurt me badly.
all these games are highly linear and there is no challenge. without any challenge, the grind is terrible. especially grinding dull quests.
unfortunately most P2P games these days are not much better. i cant see a difference between AION P2P and AION F2P. i played them both. same with Lotro. its all the same bullsh....
played: Everquest I (6 years), EVE (3 years)
months: EQII, Vanguard, Siedler Online, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2
weeks: WoW, Shaiya, Darkfall, Florensia, Entropia, Aion, Lotro, Fallen Earth, Uncharted Waters
days: DDO, RoM, FFXIV, STO, Atlantica, PotBS, Maestia, WAR, AoC, Gods&Heroes, Cultures, RIFT, Forsaken World, Allodds
Well, to me it seems like it depends on what kind of game it is. If it;s just a MMO shooter were you play for excitement for an hour, I would pay for little things like upgrades, etc. On the other hand, a MMO RPG where you might spend hours and hours players for years, I would only pay for $15 buck a month and then for the yearly or so update (Even for this, it's a great deal for entertainment).
Many people just don't realize how much more expensive it is for F2P (P2W). A far as I know, theres no such thing as a completely F2P MMO.
I don't have different standards for P2P vs F2P games. If the game doesn't grab me within the first hour or so then it's getting uninstalled. If it feels like a clone of something I've already played it's also getting uninstalled.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
I dont even uninstall them they sit on my computer not worth the time of the uninstall, besides with memory capacity at 2 Terabytes on high end computers or possibly even more with a RAID system....whats the point?
I gave fallen earth a try and really enjoyed it for a f2p. Yeah the graphics aren't the best but I really like the feel of the game. The crafting is good. You can make abouut %95 of the iteams in the game.
True...however we have some shining examples of "good" F2P games. Like Lotro and for some AoC/EQ2/STO. Those games are still on my PC as I pop into them every now and then.
Same here. However F2P usually sticks around longer than the sub games because i can always pop back in whenever I want at a later date.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
well i have a 128 GB SSD for my windows, tools and games only. sometimes there is a significant difference in performance. but 128 GB is not so much, so i have to take care about my disk space.
but you are correct. i should install these standard F2P games on my big harddisk. it doesnt matter anyways if the gameplay is expected to be crappy.
played: Everquest I (6 years), EVE (3 years)
months: EQII, Vanguard, Siedler Online, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2
weeks: WoW, Shaiya, Darkfall, Florensia, Entropia, Aion, Lotro, Fallen Earth, Uncharted Waters
days: DDO, RoM, FFXIV, STO, Atlantica, PotBS, Maestia, WAR, AoC, Gods&Heroes, Cultures, RIFT, Forsaken World, Allodds
Sad thing is I only have beta clients installed at the moment, and most of them aint gonna last much longer either.
To be perfectly honest the only game with promise it Firefall, but with its small dev team its journey from beta to release might be a long way off. I would encourage people who are fed up with the current state of gaming to apply for a beta spot. The devs and the ceo constantly post and have an open discussion about the game in a very upfront way with no PR what so ever, its really refresing to have an open, blunt conversation about whats going on.
Well this may be a cliche answer but it really depends on whats wrong with it and how that impacts you. For example I tried Aion and CO this weekend, I haven't tried either of them before however the reports on Aions F2P intrigued me and CO's ability to mix and match powers caught my attention as well.
CO I treid twice for about 15 minutes each. Couldn't stand the way I looked. I'm not a complete graphics whore but I need to like my characters. Having basically only one face (yes there are 20 somethings but really it is just shading for the same face) and a face I didn't like was really annoying. And cell shading? Ugh, really really didn't like how I looked so I couldn't get any further into it. Yes I did drop the 15 bucks because I did want to to try to mix and match powers, oh well, 15 bucks is pretty cheap.
Aion on the other hand I have not uninstalled yet. I like how it looks, I like generally how it plays. What I don't like is how... gamey? it feels. By gamey I don't mean the mechanics I mean the way I run, the combat music is horrible IMO (european rave?), the little lights and things that pop up when I run over them like a lot of manga type spgs. However I'm still having enough fun I'll give it another shot.
I don't mind bugs, bad code can be irritating but depending on how bad it can be bearable. To me it's just does it feel like I'm that character or not, or do I want to be that character. CO didn't make it past the first 15 minutes because I couldn't stand my character, Aion I like my character, but the gameyness of it feels a bit... off. We'll see.
Liking EQ2 so far though. And back in EQ. And thought FE was great - just a bit repetitive.
The games you mention all started off P2P and went F2P later. That might have something to do with why they're better than other F2P games (relatively speaking).
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
That's quite a server to have 2 TB of memory. I'm not aware of any off hand that take 2 TB in a single server, though Westmere-EX might get there. And of course, there is the more outlandish stuff that they use in supercomputers.
I think you mean hard drive space. And a high end computer doesn't necessarily have more storage capacity than a low end one. The high end computer does have an SSD, but that doesn't add very much storage capacity. If you've got only 120 GB of SSD space, though, that's a lot of uninstalling if you want to install a new game very week or month or whatever.
I don't uninstall them unless I have zero intention of ever playing again. For me this generally happens at level cap as there tends to be increased need for the cash shop then as opposed to while leveling. I remember way back in the day when I'd feel a loss at uninstalling a game I'd played to cap but these days that tends to be so quick and easy that I develop no connection at all with the toons I roll.
My FTP needs to be of AAA status. The last thing I want to do is have to purchase a race or class on a game that looks like total ****. Won't do it.
I usually uninstall once the content becomes gated, or I get bored of the repetative gameplay of the games themselves. I can't play a ton of fantasy-setting games. It becomes hard to distinguish the clones from one another. Thats why I will always have a soft spot for Fallen Earth. Probably the best F2P game conversion as they don't limit your gametime, content or character development. The limits they impose are easily offset by any one time purchase. Still needs polish and a bit of a graphical update (imo) but its so different from other offerings out there.
It doesn't have to bad that bad, if I havn't felt like playing it for a while I unistall, particularly if I installed it on my SSD.
I can always download it again, it is usually rather fast and I hate having my system clogged up with too many games.
I usually don't uninstall games right after I've become bored of them, unless I know for 100% sure I won't be going back (WoW, SWTOR). What ends up happening is that I'll be looking through my installed programs lists, see something, and think to myself, "Oh wow, I still have that installed? I should get rid of that!", and then delete it.
I was a bit stingier on my old PC, but since my current one has a 1TB HDD space really hasn't become an issue. In fact, I don't think I've ever had less than 400 GB free.
I am like this guy, I have tried all big name F2P they all suck... I play GOOD games, high budget games rather it be on console or PC. I have a hard time getting into a game that's poorly updated to 2012 standards. Its been said, they have gone F2P for a reason. The only F2P MMO I see that MAY be successful is GW2 other than that? If you want a solid, high budget, polished/smooth MMO with a good supporting cast, you're going to have to P2P. However, even the P2P MMOs on the current market are WoW reruns and I am tired of most of them, just waiting on next gen.