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//\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

That's what this game is.

 

Had it released more than a decade ago, I would have thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but nowadays, when you can literally download free games with three degrees of freedom and (arguably) more combat depth, I feel like it is barely f2p material.

My first online game was d1 followed by d2 and this, as MANY have mentioned, is nothing more than slightly embellished d2 combat with a new skin.

 

This game feels like Activison is just milking the old fanbase for money and if the real cash AH doesn't scream that, then I don't know what does.

Am I just spoiled? I'm getting older, so maybe my expectations are getting higher, but .. perhaps as with all games and diminishing returns I'm just reaching the phase where nothing is good enough.

 

I had lowered my expectations for the title after watching people play it, but now I am pretty sure I won't be buying it, partially due to performance, but also for the lackluster single player that could barely keep me playing through the beta.

 

 

 

 

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  • frestonfreston Member UncommonPosts: 503

    My first online game was d1 followed by d2 and this, as MANY have mentioned, is nothing more than slightly embellished d2 combat with a new skin.

    This could also be said of SC2.

    Im starting to fear for TITAN.

  • RedempRedemp Member UncommonPosts: 1,136

     To each his own I guess...

    I had no intentions of buying D3 , nor did I have any intention of ever playing it. I played the first and second for many months, longer than anything I play nowadays. I just don't trust Blizzard and the screenshots I've seen of the game made it look ... horrid.

     

    On a whim I downloaded the Beta ..... I'll sum it up by saying I've preordered. Is it drastically different from D2? NO ... and thats the point. New classes,  new quests , new bosses, new enviroments , new mechanics, and new crafting ..... thats a new game. It's nothing compared to the reskin of Starcraft , which only inluded a few additional units. The game feels like D2 and plays like it. I am enjoying the heck out of the Open Beta , I plan on finishing a Barbarian tomorrow.

     

    And ... Yes , I'm an old school gamer, I'm also incredibly picky about my games like most O.S.G's.

  • DannyGloverDannyGlover Member Posts: 1,277

    eh. One person's Archaic is another person's Classic.

    I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.

  • beej1986beej1986 Member UncommonPosts: 81

    Originally posted by Redemp

     To each his own I guess...

    I had no intentions of buying D3 , nor did I have any intention of ever playing it. I played the first and second for many months, longer than anything I play nowadays. I just don't trust Blizzard and the screenshots I've seen of the game made it look ... horrid.

     

    On a whim I downloaded the Beta ..... I'll sum it up by saying I've preordered. Is it drastically different from D2? NO ... and thats the point. New classes,  new quests , new bosses, new enviroments , new mechanics, and new crafting ..... thats a new game. It's nothing compared to the reskin of Starcraft , which only inluded a few additional units. The game feels like D2 and plays like it. I am enjoying the heck out of the Open Beta , I plan on finishing a Barbarian tomorrow.

     

    And ... Yes , I'm an old school gamer, I'm also incredibly picky about my games like most O.S.G's.

    ^This. Already pre-purchased GW2, had no intention on buying D3. Been playing the beta this weekend, well their hook worked. Its so much like the old diablo games I use to play...cant wait for full release.

    Oh yea..and the atmosphere of the game is pretty epic.

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  • RedempRedemp Member UncommonPosts: 1,136

    Originally posted by beej1986

    Originally posted by Redemp

     To each his own I guess...

    I had no intentions of buying D3 , nor did I have any intention of ever playing it. I played the first and second for many months, longer than anything I play nowadays. I just don't trust Blizzard and the screenshots I've seen of the game made it look ... horrid.

     

    On a whim I downloaded the Beta ..... I'll sum it up by saying I've preordered. Is it drastically different from D2? NO ... and thats the point. New classes,  new quests , new bosses, new enviroments , new mechanics, and new crafting ..... thats a new game. It's nothing compared to the reskin of Starcraft , which only inluded a few additional units. The game feels like D2 and plays like it. I am enjoying the heck out of the Open Beta , I plan on finishing a Barbarian tomorrow.

     

    And ... Yes , I'm an old school gamer, I'm also incredibly picky about my games like most O.S.G's.

    ^This. Already pre-purchased GW2, had no intention on buying D3. Been playing the beta this weekend, well their hook worked. Its so much like the old diablo games I use to play...cant wait for full release.

    Oh yea..and the atmosphere of the game is pretty epic.

    What really sealed the deal was a lack of anything worthy to do with my mates untill Gw2  betas / release. D3 will fill that void nicely.

     

  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    That's what this game is.

     

    Had it released more than a decade ago, I would have thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but nowadays, when you can literally download free games with three degrees of freedom and (arguably) more combat depth, I feel like it is barely f2p material.

    My first online game was d1 followed by d2 and this, as MANY have mentioned, is nothing more than slightly embellished d2 combat with a new skin.

     

    This game feels like Activison is just milking the old fanbase for money and if the real cash AH doesn't scream that, then I don't know what does.

    Am I just spoiled? I'm getting older, so maybe my expectations are getting higher, but .. perhaps as with all games and diminishing returns I'm just reaching the phase where nothing is good enough.

     

    I had lowered my expectations for the title after watching people play it, but now I am pretty sure I won't be buying it, partially due to performance, but also for the lackluster single player that could barely keep me playing through the beta.

     

     

     

     

     Well you could just spend your time bi**hing on a forum about it, or you could actually go out and support a better game in developement like Grim Dawn

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn

    Personally I think you'd be better off supporting a Game in developement that may give you the game you seek then just wasting your time moaning about what D3 could have been, Blizzard is going for casual play its not gonna change D3 at this point in time, sorry but those are the breaks.

       If your really interested in a more complex game support the indie don;t expect the huge mega developers to make it as they are all going for the casual majority these days

  • frestonfreston Member UncommonPosts: 503

    Originally posted by Aori

    Originally posted by freston


    My first online game was d1 followed by d2 and this, as MANY have mentioned, is nothing more than slightly embellished d2 combat with a new skin.

    This could also be said of SC2.

    Im starting to fear for TITAN.

    Considering titan is not following Diablo, SC or WC.. you'll be ok. 

    Thats nice. Blizzard has run out of imagination, but well be ok.

  • TyvolusNextTyvolusNext Member Posts: 192

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    That's what this game is.

     

    Had it released more than a decade ago, I would have thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but nowadays, when you can literally download free games with three degrees of freedom and (arguably) more combat depth, I feel like it is barely f2p material.

    My first online game was d1 followed by d2 and this, as MANY have mentioned, is nothing more than slightly embellished d2 combat with a new skin.

     

    This game feels like Activison is just milking the old fanbase for money and if the real cash AH doesn't scream that, then I don't know what does.

    Am I just spoiled? I'm getting older, so maybe my expectations are getting higher, but .. perhaps as with all games and diminishing returns I'm just reaching the phase where nothing is good enough.

     

    I had lowered my expectations for the title after watching people play it, but now I am pretty sure I won't be buying it, partially due to performance, but also for the lackluster single player that could barely keep me playing through the beta.

     

     

     

     

     Blizzard makes kids games.  Its like saying you dont think you are into going out to eat at restaurants anymore because you kinda outgrew mcdonalds and chuck e cheese.   Im 41 and have no problem finding games that I enjoy.  Civ 5, skyrim, torchlight, company of heros, rift, aion, EQ, warhammer 40k.  Bliz is for the kids and quite honestly there is nothing wrong with that --- its just not right for me.

  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Member Posts: 1,857

    Originally posted by TyvolusNext


    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    That's what this game is.
     
    Had it released more than a decade ago, I would have thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but nowadays, when you can literally download free games with three degrees of freedom and (arguably) more combat depth, I feel like it is barely f2p material.
    My first online game was d1 followed by d2 and this, as MANY have mentioned, is nothing more than slightly embellished d2 combat with a new skin.
     
    This game feels like Activison is just milking the old fanbase for money and if the real cash AH doesn't scream that, then I don't know what does.
    Am I just spoiled? I'm getting older, so maybe my expectations are getting higher, but .. perhaps as with all games and diminishing returns I'm just reaching the phase where nothing is good enough.
     
    I had lowered my expectations for the title after watching people play it, but now I am pretty sure I won't be buying it, partially due to performance, but also for the lackluster single player that could barely keep me playing through the beta.
     
     
     
     

     Blizzard makes kids games.  Its like saying you dont think you are into going out to eat at restaurants anymore because you kinda outgrew mcdonalds and chuck e cheese.   Im 41 and have no problem finding games that I enjoy.  Civ 5, skyrim, torchlight, company of heros, rift, aion, EQ, warhammer 40k.  Bliz is for the kids and quite honestly there is nothing wrong with that --- its just not right for me.

     

    Diablo was never geared towards kids, ever... perhaps you missed the gore, demons, child sacrifices, and corpses hanging everywhere in Diablo 1?

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  • AdiarisAdiaris Member CommonPosts: 381

    Originally posted by winter

     

     Well you could just spend your time bi**hing on a forum about it, or you could actually go out and support a better game in developement like Grim Dawn

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn

    Personally I think you'd be better off supporting a Game in developement that may give you the game you seek then just wasting your time moaning about what D3 could have been, Blizzard is going for casual play its not gonna change D3 at this point in time, sorry but those are the breaks.

     

    Thanks for link, I'm a supporter now!

     

     

  • MurlockDanceMurlockDance Member Posts: 1,223

    Originally posted by winter

     Well you could just spend your time bi**hing on a forum about it, or you could actually go out and support a better game in developement like Grim Dawn

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn

    Personally I think you'd be better off supporting a Game in developement that may give you the game you seek then just wasting your time moaning about what D3 could have been, Blizzard is going for casual play its not gonna change D3 at this point in time, sorry but those are the breaks.

       If your really interested in a more complex game support the indie don;t expect the huge mega developers to make it as they are all going for the casual majority these days

    Interestingly, when I picked up D1, the thing that made it attractive to me was that it seemed really casual and easy to get into, but this is in comparison to the other dungeon crawlers and dungeon exploration games that preceded it. It was so polished in comparison to what came before, and its easy-to-use UI was so appealing. Some of the old SSI AD&D games come to mind. Though they were entertaining, they were not always to easy to control.

    D2 could also be construed as a casual game at least on the first difficulty mode. Seeing that D3 is releasing with the traditional three difficulty modes plus Inferno... I think that it will follow suit with D2 in that Easy is really meant to be casual but anything harder will require more time spent to get geared up appropriately.

    If anything, Blizzard has a history of streamlining and polishing up genres, so them doing this with D3 is not really a big change from what they have always done.

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  • mark2123mark2123 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    I have to agree with the OP - the game has been planned for so long that is looks and feels at least 10 years old. This has been done, but much better, by Dragon Age and countless other games. I can see the only point in releasing it now is to cream our cash because of its name, because of blizzard's name and because they can take more money off us through the auction house.

    It really is unremarkable having played for 3 hours, nothing entices me back.

    Great opportunity wasted.
  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Member Posts: 1,857

    Originally posted by winter

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    That's what this game is.

     

    Had it released more than a decade ago, I would have thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but nowadays, when you can literally download free games with three degrees of freedom and (arguably) more combat depth, I feel like it is barely f2p material.

    My first online game was d1 followed by d2 and this, as MANY have mentioned, is nothing more than slightly embellished d2 combat with a new skin.

     

    This game feels like Activison is just milking the old fanbase for money and if the real cash AH doesn't scream that, then I don't know what does.

    Am I just spoiled? I'm getting older, so maybe my expectations are getting higher, but .. perhaps as with all games and diminishing returns I'm just reaching the phase where nothing is good enough.

     

    I had lowered my expectations for the title after watching people play it, but now I am pretty sure I won't be buying it, partially due to performance, but also for the lackluster single player that could barely keep me playing through the beta.

     

     

     

     

     Well you could just spend your time bi**hing on a forum about it, or you could actually go out and support a better game in developement like Grim Dawn

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crateentertainment/grim-dawn

    Personally I think you'd be better off supporting a Game in developement that may give you the game you seek then just wasting your time moaning about what D3 could have been, Blizzard is going for casual play its not gonna change D3 at this point in time, sorry but those are the breaks.

       If your really interested in a more complex game support the indie don;t expect the huge mega developers to make it as they are all going for the casual majority these days

    My one gripe with Titan's Quest was the lack of blood and gore... problem solved?  Dunno, but it looks like it's worth $18 to find out.  Hell, I spend more than that on Jack Daniels.

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  • //\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

    Originally posted by DannyGlover

    eh. One person's Archaic is another person's Classic.

     

     True enough, but somehow I don't think a 60$ pacman would fly these days.

     

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  • DannyGloverDannyGlover Member Posts: 1,277


    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    Originally posted by DannyGlover
    eh. One person's Archaic is another person's Classic.
     
     True enough, but somehow I don't think a 60$ pacman would fly these days.
     

    So now its as basic as Pacman? Harsh.

    I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.

  • JyiigaJyiiga Member UncommonPosts: 1,187

    When I played Diablo 2 I ended up with something like twelve characters spread over three accounts. For a very long time I couldn't get enough of the game. Eventually like anything I finally burnt out on it.

    This weekend I tried D3 open beta. I rolled up a mage/wizard and did a single play through and sadly there was no hook for it. There was simply not enough "new" to overcome the feeling that I had played this all before. I could probably enjoy a single play through of the game before GW2 comes out.

    Honestly though I would rather avoid the whole real money fiasco and the 60 dollars that it would cost me for a game that I may play for a month...

    There really isn't any innovation with this title to speak of.

  • ace5572ace5572 Member Posts: 113

    "This game feels like Activison is just milking the old fanbase for money"

     

    That is Activision's number one export. Add a couple things to an old game, call it new, and charge $60. Then release some downloadable content that was going to be in the game at the start for $10 a pop.

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