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Holy trinity--wow, eve online, swtor. Do we need more games on the market?

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  • VikingGamerVikingGamer Member UncommonPosts: 1,350

    Originally posted by Kinchyle

    Originally posted by VikingGamer

    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    Originally posted by VikingGamer

    Wait, you said three games right? WoW, EVE and the other WoW, the one with light sabers.

    I am only counting two games there.

    You apparently has a problem distinguish Wow, from Wow with light sabers. Those are TWO games.



    You apparently has a problem getting the joke.

    SWTOR is barely a different game. It is more like a lateral expansion of WoW into the Star Wars universe. Once players finish the story presented by Bioware, SWTOR largely becomes pointless. Without the story, that is. once your well seated in the endgame, why stay if WoW does this sort of game better, with more people, likely with a bunch of your friends? Also most people who have played WoW in the past are likely to have a deep investment in it in terms of titles, pets, mounts, and other nicknacks. The only thing to keep a person playing SWTOR is if they are a really big fan of Star Wars and would rather have that.

    Distinquishing yourself from WoW is better done in terms of gameplay or endgame focus. EQ2 has there housing, Rift has the soul system, Aion has petty angels (chicks dig it), Lineage 2 has territory war, Tera has huge jiggly boo...uh action combat. You get the point.



    No...it's not. Not to the people with brainpower above a bag of wet hair. SWTOR resembles nothing in WoW...unless you are trying too hard



    lol, ok. seriously, not sure if you are trolling or hopelessly uh, naw, that will get me banned. lets just say you must be a true believer.

    edit: don't get me wrong. I don't think SWTOR is a bad game. I think it is at least above average. But I just don't think that it offers a substantially different experience from WoW beyond the story.

    All die, so die well.

  • VolkonVolkon Member UncommonPosts: 3,748

    Originally posted by palulalula

    Originally posted by BigHatLogan

    Originally posted by palulalula

    I think this 3 games offers everything what you need today in mmorpg  and there is no need to buy anything else. Wow--King for long time and it will stay for years on top, specially now with maybe best expansion ever made and we all know that after you play wow everything else is just a sad shadow. Eve- only  true sandbox game and only game where hurts when you die, hardcore   spaceship combat and only game worth to play in this genre. Swtor-- maybe only story driven mmo with best and most interesting leveling  in mmo world and first excellent Star Wars game. I know there are many haters of this games and most of them are sad because they do not have huge player base like this three but hey  so is the world,there is no place for fail products.  F2P or better P2W  games are not worth to mention because real players don't even want to try this kind of games

     

    No need for SWTOR.  It's just a crappy version of WoW with some voice acting.  So lets cut out SWTOR, we don't need a holy trinity slot for some 2 bit voice actor to tell me why i need to kill ten rats.  We can leave WoW and EVE, WoW for themeparky raiding and EVE for sandboxyness.  In the third slot lets add GW1/GW2 for the balanced esport PVP, and GW2 looks to have better storytelling than SWTOR. 

    Well gw2 is f2p,  i said only subscription games

        GW2 is buy to play, but that's arguing semantics. Now, why would you do something so silly as to leave out what will invariably be one of if not the top selling MMO of 2012? A lack of subscription certainly isn't a good reason, especially when you're talking about a game that will be far better than at least two of the one's you listed in quality.

        I demand a GW2 exemption!

    Oderint, dum metuant.

  • SinakuSinaku Member UncommonPosts: 552

    Wow what a terrible post.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400

    Originally posted by Skankster

    this is just troll bait...

    Term Troll Bait has lost its meaning. It's calling starting a discussion.

     

    Hey op, for me, we need more. I want a next gen Fantasy Sandbox. And a few fantasy Sandpark MMO.

    Philosophy of MMO Game Design

  • lifesbrinklifesbrink Member UncommonPosts: 553

    It is like this is just a trainwreck getting worse.

    My blog is a continuing story of what MMO's should be like.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    Some people love the Warcraft IP, others love the Star Wars IP, some people like small developers like Trion.  There's plenty of room out there.  I like RTS games but only fantasy based.  I'd sure hate them to stop making RTS games other than Starcraft and Command and Conquer.
  • ronpackronpack Member Posts: 138
    WoW needs to go away and die. There are plenty of MMO's that are a thousand times better than WoW and for tons of reasons....
  • VoiidiinVoiidiin Member Posts: 817

    Anyone else think the OP was holding off till today to pre-purchase GW2 and then saw that they were sold out and decided to bolster his dedication to his current game ?

    Or something along those lines  ;)

    Lolipops !

  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Originally posted by ronpack

    WoW needs to go away and die. There are plenty of MMO's that are a thousand times better than WoW and for tons of reasons....

    Can you list a few? Cause last time I checked WoW was the most FUN themepark.

    @OP, I completely agree about EvE. But why SWTOR? It's too similar to WoW and WoW does pretty much everything better? True SWTOR has all those cutscenes but WoW's quests are more fun and varied and now they also pack quite a bit of story in them. 

     

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  • EmwynEmwyn Member Posts: 546

    To the OP I agree in the sense that new games should try to bring something new to the genre instead of more of the same. Games like TSW for instance (I am sure there are a few other games too!) at least are trying something different and fair play to them for it. I don't intend to play it myself but it is still nice to see SOMETHING besides the same gameplay or the same old story with names changed. Progression should be about evolving the genre not replicating what's out there already.

    P.S. I think there should be more then just a Holy Trinity of games and probably a few gems out there that aren't on the radar but probably should be.

    the poster formerly known as melangel :P

  • WarmakerWarmaker Member UncommonPosts: 2,246

    More games on the market?  Less of them?

    Doesn't matter.  They all play the same.  Even the biggest, newest name on the block, SWTOR, is a retextured copy of the reigning King of the Hill.

    "I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775

    Originally posted by VikingGamer

    edit: don't get me wrong. I don't think SWTOR is a bad game. I think it is at least above average. But I just don't think that it offers a substantially different experience from WoW beyond the story.

    You said it. The story is the MAIN experience in TOR. Thus, it is very different from WOW.

  • Mari2kMari2k Member UncommonPosts: 367

    Originally posted by palulalula

    Originally posted by Skankster

    this is just troll bait...

    Maybe for you, but for me is that the true

     

    For the most normal gamers its the true, but this forum contains 90% geeks. 

    Well, there is still a good sandbox fantasy mmo missing. Hope blizzard bring it out with Titan.

  • lifesbrinklifesbrink Member UncommonPosts: 553

    So in case you people really think this guy is for real, check these out:

    Originally posted by palulalula

    Anyone here bored with classic fantasyy mmo's and want to play post apocalyptic MMO fps?

    I saw something down there on MMORPG site that  is my number one hope for mmo. Man that would be awesome, S.T.A.L.K.E.R like mmo is my dream

    Note that in this thread, he states he wants to play this other MMO...

    Then we have this thread:

    Originally posted by palulalula

    I am not a big fan of g2 but i cant understand why are you offended with invitation for beta??? You signed for beta and now you are angry :(. Well i cant understand people anymore, or is that just a forgotten child syndrome. Maybe you need some real life friends to help you through bad times

    This is an example of his trolling the crowd.

    More examples here, if you feel like reading his history:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1419991/page/2

    He trolls and he trolls, and the lot of you just got hit hard.

    My blog is a continuing story of what MMO's should be like.

  • DecemvirusDecemvirus Member Posts: 52

    Originally posted by lifesbrink

    So in case you people really think this guy is for real, check these out:

    Originally posted by palulalula

    Anyone here bored with classic fantasyy mmo's and want to play post apocalyptic MMO fps?

    I saw something down there on MMORPG site that  is my number one hope for mmo. Man that would be awesome, S.T.A.L.K.E.R like mmo is my dream

    Note that in this thread, he states he wants to play this other MMO...

    Then we have this thread:

    Originally posted by palulalula

    I am not a big fan of g2 but i cant understand why are you offended with invitation for beta??? You signed for beta and now you are angry :(. Well i cant understand people anymore, or is that just a forgotten child syndrome. Maybe you need some real life friends to help you through bad times

    This is an example of his trolling the crowd.

    More examples here, if you feel like reading his history:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1419991/page/2

    He trolls and he trolls, and the lot of you just got hit hard.



    Thank you sir, I don't get it how people keep posting on this troll. Lock it up please, i stand for thta also!

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