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Pretty sure that's not mocking anyone. Unless theres a 6 year old kid sitting next to you and he happens to be ugly and adopted...and you can magically transport us through time to december 24th, 2012. If not...I see no mockery. All I see is a slightly exaggerated example of what the original point was.
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
No but his point stands.
Someone who hates the hype would have a better understanding than someone who is caught up in the hype.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I do agree there is always 'excessive' hate for games, just for hates sake.
The trouble is that it covers up the actual logical reasons to dislike a product, I have a genuine hate for anet, mainly for my years of wasted life waiting for them to fulfill promises which never came.
But of course my voice is not heard because its drowned by stupid, childish hate from people who, as you say, just love to hate something.
I do wish every GW 2 Player doesnt have to go through what I and my guild went through in GW1, and I really hope people see anet's hype machine for what it really is. If you've researched the game and the dev studio KNOW what they are like and have made an informed decision.... fine... but dont be blinded, please.
Exactly. Not to mention the word "trolling" is often abused as an easy way to dismiss an opinion one doesn't like, or of someone who he doesn't like. I'm glad that the moderators here punish the abuse of the word "troll".
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And here I am holding my EVE account hostage until they give me the damn walking in stations. I want to take my Battleship out for another test drive and pray to whatever gods are up there that it doesnt go 'pop'.
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
Not until 5PM when work lets out, anyway.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
You are mocking by implying that the "posters of interest" are like the parents in your example.
LOL
Me too... well, I still do sign up for it but I agree... Im very sad about wis.
And yes... at the moment I have nothing to do, but in 20 minutes I will be playing the early access of Tera Online... and when Diablo 3 comes out, well... im going to be very busy
Now this is a sensible rebuttal. It lacks the shallow mind set of "I dont like the game, because I dont like it" or whatever various reasons are floating around. He has a valid reason for disliking the game. He didnt bash another person saying "youre stupid for following them! They will lead you to your doom!" And I actually, despite my disagreement, enjoyed reading his post. I will however say, even though there were somethings that just didn't make it into the final build...were they so absolutely paramount that the game was just unbearable without them. To the point that if you didn't have them within 24 hours you were going to blow up hospitals until you had what youd been promised(sorry just had to make an allusion to Dark Knight)?
I mean sure, they said this and they said that, but you know what so does a president when he is campaigning and how often does he get to do what he wants to do? I wont go any further on that example so as not to open a much much larger can of worms...
The game was fun with or without that feature. I enjoyed the intricate small scale GvG. I enjoyed the absolute freedom in my choice of build, skills, and class combinations. I thoroughly enjoyed the music, scenery, and story - some of the best story telling I've seen in an MMO and have yet to see a recent MMO match it. Sure the cutscenes were only prescripted emotes and well timed movements, but it was much more than what most games offered. Heck, Aion gave you a 3 second clip of the camera zooming in on a boss right as he goes "RAWR!" and thats it! So much for trying to drive the story forward
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But in the end...I like your post, but I will humbly disagree.
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
I see what you're saying, but also understand that that example ...really isn't that far from the truth in some cases. I think I've been called an adopted red headed step child before in a forum at some point...I think...
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
I also have a dislike for anet, aka ncsoft, this goes all the way back to what happened with Tabula Rasa, all one has to do is go back and read my post if they still exist on that topic. My entire point is that there were a lot of folks who were hating on other games, I wonder how many of those same folks will be hating on this game afer they get thier hands on it. There is a great number of folks who I see always posting I hate this game, that game and that game because. It seams to be a sport on this site to be a hater, without actually having valid reasons.
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Hate for Hype is obviously with reasons... many many and then some games have been hyped to the stars and come launch and few weeks thereafter, the games have fallen flat miserably (some more, some less, but flat nonetheless)
Last time i was truly excited and hyped up about a game, was Deus Ex 3, and the hype was rewarded, atleast to me!
Only MMO that im currently slightly hyped up about is ArcheAge and reasonably so, because it has been without NDA since forever and all the features in it currently are just mindblowingly awesome.
It is very much far from the truth for different reasons. It is enough to point out that the posters in these forums do not willingly traumatize a minor through these forums.
Stop hating people for what they think and you might be able to see further than your nose.
Hey now, I've seen dad throw the wine bottle across the room at mommy. And then he points at me and calls me 'whoops'. Juuust kidding. What i meant by not far from the truth is that most people will come on the forum with the intent of just bashing someone into the ground. Taking their hopes and dreams and smashing them into tiny pieces. I know this because I have a co-worker who is one of these people. She thrives on the sorrow and unrest of others.
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
I dont hate NCSOFT. They are just bank rollers.
ANET are the studio, its from them which this.... 'exageration' comes from.
Yes, everyone says things which may not end up being true.., but its just the way in which ANET does it.
OK, i'll give you a small example.
in GW1 everyone was fed up with the 8 emotes that we had, so we asked ANET "Will there be new emotes in factions" YES, they proudly proclaim there will definatly be emotes
Awesome.. everyone though, and left it at that.
Turns out, the ONLY new emotes came IF you bought the collectors edition, and ONLY for the two new classes.
This caused rage! "you said this..." and ANET's response was simply " Lets not argue about what was and what wasnt said" we said there would be new emotes... and there was!.... and thats all the ever said about the subject.
thats a small example, and of course not critical to the game at all.. but this is what happened to something that was critical, Alliance battles.... which turned out to not be alliance battles, at all. and again they said "well, we didnt actually SAY that..."
It goes on... storage... trade...events.. everything they ever did, was always not quite what you were expecting.
Both perspectives tend to be skewed by personal bias. "Haters" have no monopoly on reasoned insight.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Right, here is a good example of what I'm talking about.
They are obviously more neutral and have a superior opinion because they are able to "see past their nose" while I am obviously not able to see.
They also claim I hate people, which is just false and another attempt to downplay the concept in general.
Agreed. And to Atlan99...all points, from any party, will always stand until we find the perfect point of view. Which will never happen. So all pioints will always stand and can never truly be toppled...until someone logs off the forums and goes to sleep. In which case the opposition wins by default, i suppose(?)
MMO's are the ark of the gaming world. Let it take us in new directions.
One problem is: who is fit to judge what should be considered to be a "valid" reason? The grand majority of posts I've read through express reasons for why they dislike/like this and that. The only times those reasons are certainly invalid is when they factually contradict reality: like when someone, in theory, says that GW2 is, with 100% certainty, pay to win PVP-wise.
However, if a person instead said "From my experience, games with non-cosmetic item malls tend to introduce Pay-to-Win methods and that's why I disilke non-cosmetic item malls", that wouldn't be factually incorrect unless he somehow remembers his experiences wrongly. If it isn't factually incorrect, he has given an opinion and motivated his opinion with something that isn't factually incorrect, so who is to judge whether or not his reason is valid?
On the other hand, Aphorisms rarely make a lasting impact.
Still, I think feeling a persecution from something that may not even be addressed at you, personally; perhaps your message board IS growing too reflexive?
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.