Looks like your run of the mill beta constructive criticism to me. Keep trying, eventually your find a post with as much hateful troll sauce that were seeing on the forums here.
You mean like yours where you were calling people idiots and telling people to go cry to their momas? i am sure those happen and get locked quickly.
Sorry, no troll snack for you. Properly responding to your statement will only open 5 more seperate paths of derailment in regards to tards that complain to the given issues of beta tests like lag and connection problems.
Wait.. that was a snack I guess. Damn it I DID feed the troll didnt I...
Correct me if i am wrong but you are saying that it is ok to call peope idiots and mock them with phrases like ' go cry to your momma' as long as you are doing it to defend GW2? if someone is doing it against GW2 than that person is a troll? because i can link your topic here if you like.
Looks like your run of the mill beta constructive criticism to me. Keep trying, eventually your find a post with as much hateful troll sauce that were seeing on the forums here.
You mean like yours where you were calling people idiots and telling people to go cry to their momas? i am sure those happen and get locked quickly.
Sorry, no troll snack for you. Properly responding to your statement will only open 5 more seperate paths of derailment in regards to tards that complain to the given issues of beta tests like lag and connection problems.
Wait.. that was a snack I guess. Damn it I DID feed the troll didnt I...
Correct me if i am wrong but you are saying that it is ok to call peope idiots and mock them with phrases like ' go cry to your momma' as long as you are doing it to defend GW2? if someone is doing it against GW2 than that person is a troll? because i can link your topic here if you like.
please do
I am talking about thsi topic where mods edited the word 'idiots' from the title and removed other abusive and mocking statements from the post.
Overall it is rather positive - there are issues that need to be addressed but as far as betas go it has been pretty good once people actually got on the game.
Really so the 10 friends I was playing with earlier this weekend who are melee classes that a currently using ranged are lying to me?
I would encourage you to consider that GW2 has attempted to redefine all classes as neither melee nor ranged, but both. Traditional MMOs have always had rogues and warriors as melee and casters/hunters as ranged. In GW2, every class has a melee and a ranged build. Elementalists using dual daggers are a melee class. Mesmers using a 1h sword and OH are a melee class. Thieves with pistols/short bows are ranged class. Warrios with bows/rifles are a ranged class. And most of them can shift on the fly, either through weapon swapping or changing attunements/weapon kits.
The point that I'm making is that all classes can choose to be ranged or melee depending on the weapons that they have equipped and how they want to play.
"Loading screens" are not "instances". Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
looking at guardian. which weapon skill has range combat equal to other ranged classes?
I know you're trying to make the argument that melee is weaker. My experience has been quite different. With skilled movement, melee moves are used based on opportunity. A steady mix of both is required. The guardian has some of the weaker ranged abilities, but strong anti projectile and defense mechanisms. The guardian is built to 'hold the line' and not to lead the charge.
I keep a combination of scepter/torch and mace/shield. The scepter/torch is my offensive combo that allows me to close in and do some heavy aoe damage. Once they notice and I take damage, I instantly switch to mace/shield and guard myself as I slip back out of harms way. The mace, while in range, does decent damage.
2 handed weapons in PvP (greatsword, hammer) for me are largely untested.
A: Where are the actual numbers to millions being pre-ordered? stop making bs statements.
B: Where does it say the game sucks?
C: where does it say the game is great?
What I see is a bunch of people with actual legit concerns to which they have taken guild wars 2 and from reading what is here, that is definitely something that worried me. Claustrophobic environments, useless melee combat and mass zerg fest never equaled a good time in my book no matter how you look at it.
While they obviously seemed to do something unique and keep the players constantly active, they over-looked what I can see from again these postings the basic fun of a fantasy hero class. I want to be unique, I want to melee to be fun, I want to explore and more. I realize we will never get what we all want. But from reading what is there, many of these concerns definitely seem like major flags too me. I won't even get into the comments given about pvp itself which guild wars is based all around.
From my standpoint those issues listed would be definite complaints, but then to a fan they would be constructive criticism, let's just agree to disagree in those respects, in the end to me thou, from just those small snibits of info seen, I have to be among others here saying "glad I didn't pre-order".
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
This was never a real beta if it was you wouldnt have had to buy the game to get in to try it out... Open you're eyes this game will release this summer and is no where near ready.
Melee combat is gimped compared to ranges
Its not optimized not even close
Server side lag in WvW was the down fall to warhammer.
Aoe dmg is completly out of control like warhammer
Melee getting one shot at DE's
Framerate loss with great vid cards
These are all real issues.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!
That is YOUR opinion. Everybody who pre-purchased knew exactly what they were buying.
So my friends and I who are melee who are using ranged weapons are lying? and the thread mentioned earlier on the original forums with the same exact complaint are also lying? Screen shot was included,
Personally, I think that you and your friends need to learn how to play. I know it sounds cliche but it's true.
This was never a real beta if it was you wouldnt have had to buy the game to get in to try it out... Open you're eyes this game will release this summer and is no where near ready.
Melee combat is gimped compared to ranges
Its not optimized not even close
Server side lag in WvW was the down fall to warhammer.
Aoe dmg is completly out of control like warhammer
Melee getting one shot at DE's
Framerate loss with great vid cards
These are all real issues.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!
That is YOUR opinion. Everybody who pre-purchased knew exactly what they were buying.
So my friends and I who are melee who are using ranged weapons are lying? and the thread mentioned earlier on the original forums with the same exact complaint are also lying? Screen shot was included,
Personally, I think that you and your friends need to learn how to play. I know it sounds cliche but it's true.
Cliche? Even I can read about the issues in melee from multiple sources, please this is blind fanboy talk. Even fans that say they are fans admit the melee combat issue.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
This was never a real beta if it was you wouldnt have had to buy the game to get in to try it out... Open you're eyes this game will release this summer and is no where near ready.
Melee combat is gimped compared to ranges
Its not optimized not even close
Server side lag in WvW was the down fall to warhammer.
Aoe dmg is completly out of control like warhammer
Melee getting one shot at DE's
Framerate loss with great vid cards
These are all real issues.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!
That is YOUR opinion. Everybody who pre-purchased knew exactly what they were buying.
So my friends and I who are melee who are using ranged weapons are lying? and the thread mentioned earlier on the original forums with the same exact complaint are also lying? Screen shot was included,
Personally, I think that you and your friends need to learn how to play. I know it sounds cliche but it's true.
I guess you missed the official posts regarding melee vs range issues.
how surprising. fanboys liking GW2 on official forums. did u really expect anything different?
oh and ingame chat: a huge amount of those people chatting already payed for this game and additionally for this beta and ofc they all are in denial of how dire the situation really is.
better try the game urself and get ur own opinion.
i asked a friend to lend me his accoutn for a few hours to test it abit and boy am i glad i saved myself 70€.
you can't judge an MMO like GW2 after 'several hours', that's just asinine. Give it time, have an open mind, and it'll grow on you. It isn't the type of game that immediately sucks you in
I really don't understand these types of post that claim you need to give a mmo time before you like it. The first lvls of a MMO should INSTANTLY grab the players attention and make him / her want to play even more. Honestly I like GW2 but I havent had the same need to play feeling like I had when I first started playing WoW. Hopefully the issues get fixed and the game gets better tho.
This is exactly my opinion! I still remember like i played DAoC beta or the very first time WoW Retail in 2006 and i almost got instantly hooked on it. this is also true for GW1 beta weekend 1 where it still used the old gfx engine .
Preordered D3 and TSW today
Have you beta tested D3?
Every person I have talked to that has been waiting for D3, is not buying it. Total garbage.
yep i tested it alot. played every charackter n defeated skeleton king a bunch of times + crafted lot of stuff and the game is exactly how i wanted it to be. i was immered in the game instantly and loved it how i loved d1+hellfire n d2+lod for ages.
I don't know about the official forums, but here on the UNofficial forums for the game, it's constantly the same people posting negative posts over and over. Watch the names of the posters. They post one negative post then write up another and another and it goes on and on. And crazy as it is....they usually will admit to either not playing the game at ALL or playing it for some ridiculous short amount of time, AND....they're mostly the people that were hating on the game before this weekend anyway, so who would expect otherwise from them? They're not any more objective than fanbois are. The game isn't perfect, but this batch of hooligans would have you believe that it's the very vomit of hell itself. It's ridiculous.
mostly negative. Many of the threads you see me posting over here, are similar to over there.
How come this user has not been banned yet ? This statement is complete disinformation.
He probably has already been banned before. His posts are strangely similar to someone called Templarga who used to post here. The artist formerly known as Zorndorf shows up from time to time under an assumed name.
Some of these guys hate games that are not like WOW soo much they never miss a beat.
mostly negative. Many of the threads you see me posting over here, are similar to over there.
How come this user has not been banned yet ? This statement is complete disinformation.
He probably has already been banned before. His posts are strangely similar to someone called Templarga who used to post here. The artist formerly known as Zorndorf shows up from time to time under an assumed name.
Some of these guys hate games that are not like WOW soo much they never miss a beat.
how surprising. fanboys liking GW2 on official forums. did u really expect anything different?
oh and ingame chat: a huge amount of those people chatting already payed for this game and additionally for this beta and ofc they all are in denial of how dire the situation really is.
better try the game urself and get ur own opinion.
i asked a friend to lend me his accoutn for a few hours to test it abit and boy am i glad i saved myself 70€.
Dire? wth are you talking about. I played all weekend and had a blast. ran great, only 2 disconnects. more fun than i've had in any mmo since daoc. and to be fair, daoc really didnt get fun till end game.
how surprising. fanboys liking GW2 on official forums. did u really expect anything different?
oh and ingame chat: a huge amount of those people chatting already payed for this game and additionally for this beta and ofc they all are in denial of how dire the situation really is.
better try the game urself and get ur own opinion.
i asked a friend to lend me his accoutn for a few hours to test it abit and boy am i glad i saved myself 70€.
you can't judge an MMO like GW2 after 'several hours', that's just asinine. Give it time, have an open mind, and it'll grow on you. It isn't the type of game that immediately sucks you in
Ofc lol....the game is repetitive as hell.....u do the same thing from lvl1 to 80....breaking gates-killing birds
seriously i expected more from gw2 but its nothing more than a warhammer-rift clone.
played it,uninstal it nothing new or revolutionary
19/21 people on the last page of the thread "Overall-Weekend-Experience-Rating-out-of-10" gave the beta 7/10 or higher. 17/21 gave it at least 8/10, even though they had problems because it was beta.
Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)
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I am talking about thsi topic where mods edited the word 'idiots' from the title and removed other abusive and mocking statements from the post.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/348927/page/1
I think you are entering the wrong forum.. lol
check pictures a few pages back.
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
I would encourage you to consider that GW2 has attempted to redefine all classes as neither melee nor ranged, but both. Traditional MMOs have always had rogues and warriors as melee and casters/hunters as ranged. In GW2, every class has a melee and a ranged build. Elementalists using dual daggers are a melee class. Mesmers using a 1h sword and OH are a melee class. Thieves with pistols/short bows are ranged class. Warrios with bows/rifles are a ranged class. And most of them can shift on the fly, either through weapon swapping or changing attunements/weapon kits.
The point that I'm making is that all classes can choose to be ranged or melee depending on the weapons that they have equipped and how they want to play.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
I know you're trying to make the argument that melee is weaker. My experience has been quite different. With skilled movement, melee moves are used based on opportunity. A steady mix of both is required. The guardian has some of the weaker ranged abilities, but strong anti projectile and defense mechanisms. The guardian is built to 'hold the line' and not to lead the charge.
I keep a combination of scepter/torch and mace/shield. The scepter/torch is my offensive combo that allows me to close in and do some heavy aoe damage. Once they notice and I take damage, I instantly switch to mace/shield and guard myself as I slip back out of harms way. The mace, while in range, does decent damage.
2 handed weapons in PvP (greatsword, hammer) for me are largely untested.
Yes there are threads, mostly friday ones, of players complaining about login issues, about that you are right.
Is it negative aspects about the game? Not at all.. Perfectly normal in a beta event. I still understand the frustation of those that couldnt log.
Overwall, in what concerns with game aspects and not tecnhical issues, i would say at least 90% of players are really enjoying the game they bought.
A: Where are the actual numbers to millions being pre-ordered? stop making bs statements.
B: Where does it say the game sucks?
C: where does it say the game is great?
What I see is a bunch of people with actual legit concerns to which they have taken guild wars 2 and from reading what is here, that is definitely something that worried me. Claustrophobic environments, useless melee combat and mass zerg fest never equaled a good time in my book no matter how you look at it.
While they obviously seemed to do something unique and keep the players constantly active, they over-looked what I can see from again these postings the basic fun of a fantasy hero class. I want to be unique, I want to melee to be fun, I want to explore and more. I realize we will never get what we all want. But from reading what is there, many of these concerns definitely seem like major flags too me. I won't even get into the comments given about pvp itself which guild wars is based all around.
From my standpoint those issues listed would be definite complaints, but then to a fan they would be constructive criticism, let's just agree to disagree in those respects, in the end to me thou, from just those small snibits of info seen, I have to be among others here saying "glad I didn't pre-order".
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
Personally, I think that you and your friends need to learn how to play. I know it sounds cliche but it's true.
Cliche? Even I can read about the issues in melee from multiple sources, please this is blind fanboy talk. Even fans that say they are fans admit the melee combat issue.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
I guess you missed the official posts regarding melee vs range issues.
yep i tested it alot. played every charackter n defeated skeleton king a bunch of times + crafted lot of stuff and the game is exactly how i wanted it to be. i was immered in the game instantly and loved it how i loved d1+hellfire n d2+lod for ages.
sry for offtopic.
How come this user has not been banned yet ? This statement is complete disinformation.
***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in *****
I don't know about the official forums, but here on the UNofficial forums for the game, it's constantly the same people posting negative posts over and over. Watch the names of the posters. They post one negative post then write up another and another and it goes on and on. And crazy as it is....they usually will admit to either not playing the game at ALL or playing it for some ridiculous short amount of time, AND....they're mostly the people that were hating on the game before this weekend anyway, so who would expect otherwise from them? They're not any more objective than fanbois are. The game isn't perfect, but this batch of hooligans would have you believe that it's the very vomit of hell itself. It's ridiculous.
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Why would I be banned. I posted screen shots. Just go back a few pages....
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Again.
Yes there are threads, mostly friday ones, of players complaining about login issues, about that you are right.
Is it a negative aspects about the game? Not. Its normal in a beta event. I still understand the frustation of those that couldnt log.
Overwall, in what concerns with game aspects and not tecnhical issues, i would say at least 90% of players are really enjoying the game they bought.
He probably has already been banned before. His posts are strangely similar to someone called Templarga who used to post here. The artist formerly known as Zorndorf shows up from time to time under an assumed name.
Some of these guys hate games that are not like WOW soo much they never miss a beat.
Smh
whatever. I won't deny nor admit to being them.
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Dire? wth are you talking about. I played all weekend and had a blast. ran great, only 2 disconnects. more fun than i've had in any mmo since daoc. and to be fair, daoc really didnt get fun till end game.
ok, just logged off the official forums there with a bit over an hour to go in beta. was on for awhile last nite too.
The general mood is upbeat. its pretty similar to most beta forums. mostly people giving their two cents on things in the form of feedback.
very few whiner type negative threads.
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Ofc lol....the game is repetitive as hell.....u do the same thing from lvl1 to 80....breaking gates-killing birds
seriously i expected more from gw2 but its nothing more than a warhammer-rift clone.
played it,uninstal it nothing new or revolutionary
19/21 people on the last page of the thread "Overall-Weekend-Experience-Rating-out-of-10" gave the beta 7/10 or higher. 17/21 gave it at least 8/10, even though they had problems because it was beta.
Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)