The GTX 690 is a nice card, unlike some of the flagrantly bad or stupid dual GPU cards we've seen (EVGA GTX 275+GTS 250 and PowerColor Radeon HD 4670 X2, I'm looking at you). But I'd still rather have two GTX 680s in SLI. Yes, they'll use more power. But they'll also give more performance. If you're worried about heat and noise, then get GTX 680s with a premium cooler and a case with a ton of airflow and you're set.
Furthermore, if you get two GTX 680s in SLI and one dies or is otherwise inoperable for a while, then you can use the other and still play games just fine. If you have one GTX 690 and it dies, you can't do anything until you replace it.
For what it's worth, AMD could make the Radeon HD 7990 faster than a GeForce GTX 690 if they want to. All they have to do is bin Tahiti GPUs for a factory overclock and then put a three slot, internal exhaust cooler on it. It won't be a very good card if they do that, but it will give longer bars on the graphs, which is the main point of such marketing gimmicks.
Originally posted by Mephster Complete rip off seriously. There is no game on the planet that needs this much power nor will there be anytime soon. Waste of money. You wonder why alot of people prefer console gaming over pc gaming because of things like this.
The only thing odd about this product is the timing of its release...since none of the GTX products are readily available for sale anywhere in the world.
The 690 is a "halo product"... an outrageously overpowered product designed to make you think "WOW! If nvidia can do that, all of their stuff must rock"... so you go and buy some of their other cards in favor of AMD cards. Think concept cars at auto shows or better yet, the Dodge Viper.
A couple of problems with this card coming out at this time:
1. The GTX 680 (their non-ridiiculous top of the line card) is already ~ 15% faster than any single card AMD (7970) can throw at it. Halo products are usually released only when a competitor is mostly kicking your butt to take the consumers attention away from that. That isn't the case at the moment. As a matter of fact, the opposite is true.
2. The cards that nvidia actually hopes you will buy, the gtx 680, 670, 6xx, etc. are either out of stock worldwide or not even released yet. From a marketing point of view, their timing sucks.
Will people actually get this card? Well, I know a guy, who actually drives a Viper to and from work everyday
PS... no, "Halo Effect" has nothing to do with the game "Halo"
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1. The GTX 680 (their non-ridiiculous top of the line card) is already ~ 15% faster than any single card AMD (7970) can throw at it.
It's more like 5%-10%, not 15%. And if you can't find a GTX 680 anywhere, then the Radeon HD 7970 is the fastest card you can buy today, and by a pretty good margin, too.
1. The GTX 680 (their non-ridiiculous top of the line card) is already ~ 15% faster than any single card AMD (7970) can throw at it.
It's more like 5%-10%, not 15%. And if you can't find a GTX 680 anywhere, then the Radeon HD 7970 is the fastest card you can buy today, and by a pretty good margin, too.
A bit more than that. It varies depending on resolution and eye candy but 10-15% is the right range.
Mind you, we're talking excellent single card performance either way.
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― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I paid 1000 dollars for 2 x 295 GTX's probably 4 years ago and still can run all games with great performance on ultra settings. The best money to graphic quality/performance ratio you can make building a computer is to put the money into the graphics card.
I agree with this. I'm still rolling my dual 295's and nothing really beats them up years later, especially in MMO games. I typically build a new machine every 3-4 years now (used to be every two years) and I spend a pretty penny on it, but it will still be kicking pretty decent arse when I retire it this winter.
I always do an extensive evaluation of whatever teh current tech is, because if I don't really need to spend that kind of money, I won't. Oftentimes these days, the top of the line computer parts aren't a big enough jump over the the lower tier stuff to warrant the price.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
1. The GTX 680 (their non-ridiiculous top of the line card) is already ~ 15% faster than any single card AMD (7970) can throw at it.
It's more like 5%-10%, not 15%. And if you can't find a GTX 680 anywhere, then the Radeon HD 7970 is the fastest card you can buy today, and by a pretty good margin, too.
A bit more than that. It varies depending on resolution and eye candy but 10-15% is the right range.
Mind you, we're talking excellent single card performance either way.
They're doing something funky with their anti-aliasing settings to make it push AMD cards a lot harder than Nvidia for some inexplicable reason, and they don't say which anti-aliasing settings they're using. Actually, there are so many different types of anti-aliasing, and Nvidia and AMD don't even give you the same options, so it's very hard to make that comparable.
Hard OCP found that a GTX 680 beat a 7970 twice, lost once, and was effectively tied seven times:
I buy one high-mid range card every couple years last was 4870 which still does it job. You will do fine with third or fourth of 1k.
On other hand those cards are for future and as such are what regular customers get in 3-5 years. It's marketing, and luxury. The bit extra you pay lot more, so people want it and it's their money to waste.
i own a 6990...... i wasnt aware of the fact that i am part of a select group of ppl..... anyways, mine is liquid cooled and clocked to 1.2ghz core. unfortunately this is a hobby and a very expensive one to say the least. on the card alone i have spent around1,250$ on addons for this card. but there is always an upside and thats the fact that i can play any game with no worry whatsoever. it's a nice feeling lol. but i want another hobby :P.
well.. you realize that one month after one buys the GTX 690, a new graphic card will come on sale 0.0001% better than this and costing even more.. targeted at the really true and only pro nerds.
I just got what other field have similiar hobbyis, audiophiles... Real difference is the speed of development which is faster with computer hardware. But still, the price for marginal gain is similiar...
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The GTX 690 is a nice card, unlike some of the flagrantly bad or stupid dual GPU cards we've seen (EVGA GTX 275+GTS 250 and PowerColor Radeon HD 4670 X2, I'm looking at you). But I'd still rather have two GTX 680s in SLI. Yes, they'll use more power. But they'll also give more performance. If you're worried about heat and noise, then get GTX 680s with a premium cooler and a case with a ton of airflow and you're set.
Furthermore, if you get two GTX 680s in SLI and one dies or is otherwise inoperable for a while, then you can use the other and still play games just fine. If you have one GTX 690 and it dies, you can't do anything until you replace it.
For what it's worth, AMD could make the Radeon HD 7990 faster than a GeForce GTX 690 if they want to. All they have to do is bin Tahiti GPUs for a factory overclock and then put a three slot, internal exhaust cooler on it. It won't be a very good card if they do that, but it will give longer bars on the graphs, which is the main point of such marketing gimmicks.
Mainly for those who wanne epeen with there benchmark results the overclockers same kind that brags about cars and there awesome engines:P
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
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GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
The only thing odd about this product is the timing of its release...since none of the GTX products are readily available for sale anywhere in the world.
The 690 is a "halo product"... an outrageously overpowered product designed to make you think "WOW! If nvidia can do that, all of their stuff must rock"... so you go and buy some of their other cards in favor of AMD cards. Think concept cars at auto shows or better yet, the Dodge Viper.
A couple of problems with this card coming out at this time:
1. The GTX 680 (their non-ridiiculous top of the line card) is already ~ 15% faster than any single card AMD (7970) can throw at it. Halo products are usually released only when a competitor is mostly kicking your butt to take the consumers attention away from that. That isn't the case at the moment. As a matter of fact, the opposite is true.
2. The cards that nvidia actually hopes you will buy, the gtx 680, 670, 6xx, etc. are either out of stock worldwide or not even released yet. From a marketing point of view, their timing sucks.
Will people actually get this card? Well, I know a guy, who actually drives a Viper to and from work everyday
PS... no, "Halo Effect" has nothing to do with the game "Halo"
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Well as of now i choose a AMD over nvidia anyday of the week reviews or not and right now most AMD 7970 are priced at 420 and widely avaible.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
It's more like 5%-10%, not 15%. And if you can't find a GTX 680 anywhere, then the Radeon HD 7970 is the fastest card you can buy today, and by a pretty good margin, too.
A bit more than that. It varies depending on resolution and eye candy but 10-15% is the right range.
Mind you, we're talking excellent single card performance either way.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/52616-nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-2gb-review-29.html
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
I agree with this. I'm still rolling my dual 295's and nothing really beats them up years later, especially in MMO games. I typically build a new machine every 3-4 years now (used to be every two years) and I spend a pretty penny on it, but it will still be kicking pretty decent arse when I retire it this winter.
I always do an extensive evaluation of whatever teh current tech is, because if I don't really need to spend that kind of money, I won't. Oftentimes these days, the top of the line computer parts aren't a big enough jump over the the lower tier stuff to warrant the price.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
They're doing something funky with their anti-aliasing settings to make it push AMD cards a lot harder than Nvidia for some inexplicable reason, and they don't say which anti-aliasing settings they're using. Actually, there are so many different types of anti-aliasing, and Nvidia and AMD don't even give you the same options, so it's very hard to make that comparable.
Hard OCP found that a GTX 680 beat a 7970 twice, lost once, and was effectively tied seven times:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/22/nvidia_kepler_gpu_geforce_gtx_680_video_card_review/1
That's not consistent with one card being systematically 15% faster than the other.
I like to think it like this:
Someone else is paying for development ;D
I buy one high-mid range card every couple years last was 4870 which still does it job. You will do fine with third or fourth of 1k.
On other hand those cards are for future and as such are what regular customers get in 3-5 years. It's marketing, and luxury. The bit extra you pay lot more, so people want it and it's their money to waste.
The 690 is like 2 680 in SLI... certainly not a ripoff.
i own a 6990...... i wasnt aware of the fact that i am part of a select group of ppl..... anyways, mine is liquid cooled and clocked to 1.2ghz core. unfortunately this is a hobby and a very expensive one to say the least. on the card alone i have spent around1,250$ on addons for this card. but there is always an upside and thats the fact that i can play any game with no worry whatsoever. it's a nice feeling lol. but i want another hobby :P.
well.. you realize that one month after one buys the GTX 690, a new graphic card will come on sale 0.0001% better than this and costing even more.. targeted at the really true and only pro nerds.
I just got what other field have similiar hobbyis, audiophiles... Real difference is the speed of development which is faster with computer hardware. But still, the price for marginal gain is similiar...