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Couple of questions for Beta Players

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  • The game is not a like a EQ-themepark game where you have pvp sets and pve sets.  You customize stuff however you want and the PvP areas have to same options PvE does.

     

    For instanced PvP I believe you can have any setup you want.  You go in as max level with the ability to buy whateer you want and cusomize however you want at vendors that charge 0 money.

     

    For WvW You will most likely have some skill/item builds that are WvW specific.  For example I would say you are more likely to find alot of use for quickness in WvW than in PvE.  You may customize some armor or weapons for a special build via runes and such, but you don't really need some special PvP set vendor.

     

    As for advancement Anet wants PvP to advance you similar to PvE.  But in Beta it was somewhat slower in WvW, not sure about instanced PvP.  Anet is still in the process of tweaking WvW experience, it wasn't terrible in Beta but it wasn't great either.  But WvW is rather hard to reward in a consistent way.

     

  • WvW has resource nodes for gathering you should never need to have to goto a PvE zone to craft.  Although the WvW zone had the higher end components so maybe you would need to start it up in PvE.  I am not sure since I only looks at crafting but never advanced it much.


  • Originally posted by Valkaern

    To put the WvW experience gain into perspective, we checked it out briefly (30-40 minutes or so of repelling a siege together) then my wife went to check out her story quest, I stayed to do WvW.

    We had both just hit 20 as we wanted to unlock our skill slot before PvPing. A few hours later (4-5 hours actually) we met up again for PvE and were both almost the same amount into lvl 23. From what we noticed, XP gains in WvW were fewer and more far between, but gave larger chunks of XP, while her story line yielded a steadier flow of smaller XP chunks.

    We constantly glance at eachothers screen as we call attention to certain things, so it was apparent that throughout the duration, our exp gains were very close to similar.

    As for the PvP gear, I'm a bit confused then as to what all the gear you could buy with the currency defeated players drop is then. I thought what the merchants in the mists sold looked a lot like PvP gear, as did all of the armor and enchants you could buy with that & Karma. Or are people basically just saying those items, while obtainable through PvP, are also available through PvE? Because some of those items looked very, very nice (of course I didn't see basic lvl 80 PvE gear to compare it to). Thanks in advance if anyone can clear that up for me.

    This could be true if there is a decent amount of action but if there isn't you may not get much from straight up PvP.  I was able to gain a number of level from WvW when I was in a continuous skirmish over the course of a couple hours sure.

     

    Of course the WvW zones have PvE-style quests (supply caravan and events) that people can do if there are very few keep fights late at night or whatever. 

     

    In the end there is a very tricky supply and demand issue that is probably impossible to fully acount for.

  • ClassicstarClassicstar Member UncommonPosts: 2,697


    Originally posted by fiontar
    It's important not to mix Structured PVP and World vs World PVP together.
    Structured PvP
    Structured PvP features an instanced, team vs. team, arena like form of PVP, based around a lobby system and supported by modes from casual, customized matches up to structured, formal tournaments you enter as a team.
    Structured PvP is totally seperate from PvE and World vs. World. In SPVP, you automatically become a Level 80 version of your character, with all skills and trait points unlocked and access to free, max stat gear that is only used in SPVP. There is no further gear progression, but players can purchase a variety of gear for the appearance of that gear, using Glory points they earn in SPVP.
    You do NOT earn XP or gear for your PvE/WvW character in SPVP.
    World vs. World PvP
    World vs. World (vs. World) PvP pits your game server against two other game servers in a two week war that plays out in a massive, four zone region that is seperate from the PvE world.
    Your PvE character participates in WvW, with all the stats, skills, traits and gear your character possesses, but with your effective level bolstered to level 80.
    A Level 30 will still be stronger than a level 10, due to gear bonuses and having more skill/trait bonuses, but the bolstering helps to level the playingfield a bit.
    You do earn XP and loot while in WvW, so you can spend most of your time there and even level up exclusively via WvW participation, if you so desire.
    It will still probably be beneficial to spend some time in the PvE world, to at least complete the various Skill Point Challanges available there, or even to participate in your Personal Story, which has some excellent rewards attached.
    However, you can technically stay in WvW for 100% of your progression. You also earn loot in WvW, from completeing events and from downed opponents, though it's all tailored to your true level and you don't loot gear from an opponent's inventory, it's a loot roll, just like loot for killing mobs.
    PvP Gear
    There is no PvP stat and no items with stats designed specifically for PvP. As noted above, in SPVP you can purchase gear for the look and in WvW you gain loot just like you would in PvE and there will be vendors from which you can buy gear with Karma. However, there is no special PvP gear that will give anyone a special advantage and SPVP has no gear grind at all.
    Misc
    World vs. World also has resource nodes and crafting stations, so players can also progress crafting, even if they spend a majority of their time in WvW.
     

    Also...

    the 4 pvp worlds are also huge it feels like a whole gameworld on its own and in all worlds you also have mobs to kill if you from time to time wanne pve some when its quiet in WvsWvsW. Even discover secrets places.

    WvsWvsW will be awesome:)

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