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The Japanese Extinction

outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619

Could this possibly happen?  I was at my favoriet news site and this was a headline.

Lack of babies could mean the extinction of the Japanese people

Japanese researchers have now warned of a doomsday scenario if it carries on this way with the last child to be born there in 3011 and the Japanese people potentially disappearing a few generations later.

 

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Seriously, could this really happen?

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  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    If the last child was born on 3011 how could it then take generations for the Japanese to disappear?

    They would disappear in one generation.

    Also, just because they aren't reproducing like rabbits today doesn't mean that that will be the case up until 3011.

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    If the last child was born on 3011 how could it then take generations for the Japanese to disappear?

    They would disappear in one generation.

    Also, just because they aren't reproducing like rabbits today doesn't mean that that will be the case up until 3011.

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    Because a generation is considerd to be 20 years and most people in 'first world' countries live more than 70 years.

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  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    If the last child was born on 3011 how could it then take generations for the Japanese to disappear?

    They would disappear in one generation.

    Also, just because they aren't reproducing like rabbits today doesn't mean that that will be the case up until 3011.

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    The Japanese have always been this way. If you weren't born full Japanese you can never be a full citizen of Japan even if you live there your entire life. They even frown on other Asians intermarrying with their people. They are one of the most Xenophobic cultures on the planet.

     

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  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,903

    Hmmm it's rather hilarous that Japan is facing the same situation as the US without having a baby boom.

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  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by anemo

    Hmmm it's rather hilarous that Japan is facing the same situation as the US without having a baby boom.

    Except that an American isn't defined along ethnic lines so Americans can be imported from other places such as Japan for example.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    You obviously don't know how it works there. 60,000 Brazillian immigrants, originally of Japanese war criminal descent, would like to argue differently.

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  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by Hazelle



    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    You obviously don't know how it works there. 60,000 Brazillian immigrants, originally of Japanese war criminal descent, would like to argue differently.

    Not sure what you're going on about so you're going to have to explain yourself.

    The belief that racial purity is something of value enough to study and make models about is at its root a very ugly place that is best left to die with the last of our grandparents generation along with the belief that a person who, just because their parents are from another region, it should prevent them from having a share in a nation's identity.

  • pyrofreakpyrofreak Member UncommonPosts: 1,481

    Originally posted by Brenelael

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    If the last child was born on 3011 how could it then take generations for the Japanese to disappear?

    They would disappear in one generation.

    Also, just because they aren't reproducing like rabbits today doesn't mean that that will be the case up until 3011.

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    The Japanese have always been this way. If you weren't born full Japanese you can never be a full citizen of Japan even if you live there your entire life. They even frown on other Asians intermarrying with their people. They are one of the most Xenophobic cultures on the planet.

     

    Bren

    I was going to post practically the same thing when I first read this thread, but couldn't be bothered because I was on my phone. The real issue with Japan isn't that they won't make babies, it's that they won't allow anyone else there and let them make babies and call them Japanese. To the Japanese government, being Japanese isn't a case of loyalty or allegiance, which is basically what the United States asks for (if someone from another country moves here and wants to become an American), it's a matter primarily of parent heritage.

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  • DragonantisDragonantis Member UncommonPosts: 974

    When I read this my first thought was the anime movie Vexille

    Thats a plasuable japanese extintion in the far future.

    But this planet wont make it to 3011, with the population growth and dwlindling resources, the end will come at the hands of a 3rd world war to control the last resources.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by Dragonantis

    When I read this my first thought was the anime movie Vexille

    Thats a plasuable japanese extintion in the far future.

    But this planet wont make it to 3011, with the population growth and dwlindling resources, the end will come at the hands of a 3rd world war to control the last resources.

    The world will end when the sun implodes or the oceans dry out. People will adapt to the stink of civilization, and the body will start synthesizing the plastics and heavy metals in our diet... I hope.

    If it gets anywhere as bad as you suggest, then it's parabolic, and said war will just cull the necessary amount of lives needed to attain stasis. We might get sent back to the dark ages, technologically and culturally, but there will still be people. Even if we are all just tribals again.

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  • IrusIrus Member Posts: 774

    I don't see it happening.

    Perhaps they should talk to India, though.

  • 12234234121223423412 Member Posts: 3

    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    They would be Japanese citizens but they would not be ethnically Japanese because they would have a different Haplogroup. Genetics do not  not change just because one becomes a citizen.

  • //\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

    You'd think with all of the pornography they make that they would have no trouble at all with population.

     

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  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    You'd think with all of the pornography they make that they would have no trouble at all with population.

     

    Regardless to what you may have heard, a tentacle can't get anyone pregnant.

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  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    You'd think with all of the pornography they make that they would have no trouble at all with population.

     

    Regardless to what you may have heard, a tentacle can't get anyone pregnant.

    Especially a cartoon one... LOL

     

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  • //\//\oo//\//\oo Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,767

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by //\//\oo

    You'd think with all of the pornography they make that they would have no trouble at all with population.

     

    Regardless to what you may have heard, a tentacle can't get anyone pregnant.

     

    Or maybe bukkake caught on well, but too well.

     

     

     

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  • lordwedgelylordwedgely Member Posts: 61

    Originally posted by 1223423412

    Originally posted by Hazelle



    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    They would be Japanese citizens but they would not be ethnically Japanese because they would have a different Haplogroup. Genetics do not  not change just because one becomes a citizen.

    Poster 1223423412 is correct.

    without ripping on them, let's just say japanese consider themselves "uniquely unique". you can become a citizen but you and your offspring will never be considered "fully japanese".

    it will remain this way for a few more generations till the bigoted zombies that run the country like ishihara, kamei, and ozawa and their ilk die out. then changes can actually be seriously considered.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by lordwedgely

    it will remain this way for a few more generations till the bigoted zombies that run the country like ishihara, kamei, and ozawa and their ilk die out. then changes can actually be seriously considered.

    That's what they said about Strom Thurmond, but nothing has changed... 

    He was practically the last person to be alive back when all the lobbying with long-dead dynasties like the Hearsts were made, and he will see those promises kept another 100 years past his grave.

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  • lordwedgelylordwedgely Member Posts: 61

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by lordwedgely



    it will remain this way for a few more generations till the bigoted zombies that run the country like ishihara, kamei, and ozawa and their ilk die out. then changes can actually be seriously considered.

    That's what they said about Strom Thurmond, but nothing has changed... 

    He was practically the last person to be alive back when all the lobbying with long-dead dynasties like the Hearsts were made, and he will see those promises kept another 100 years past his grave.

    "a few more generations", as in say 60 or more years. strom thurmond hasn't even been dead ten years.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by lordwedgely

    Originally posted by GTwander


    Originally posted by lordwedgely



    it will remain this way for a few more generations till the bigoted zombies that run the country like ishihara, kamei, and ozawa and their ilk die out. then changes can actually be seriously considered.

    That's what they said about Strom Thurmond, but nothing has changed... 

    He was practically the last person to be alive back when all the lobbying with long-dead dynasties like the Hearsts were made, and he will see those promises kept another 100 years past his grave.

    "a few more generations", as in say 60 or more years. strom thurmond hasn't even been dead ten years.

    Yeah, but it doesn't help any of us that want serious change in government policy and would be lucky to live another 30.

    Though, I guess that's pretty much been the state of things since the first shady merchant became king.

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  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760
    Originally posted by 1223423412
    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    They would be Japanese citizens but they would not be ethnically Japanese because they would have a different Haplogroup. Genetics do not  not change just because one becomes a citizen.

    And there go the human race's ability to fly without the use of technology, oh no wait the genetically Japanese can't do that; hmmmm, I guess there's really nothing special about being genetically Japanese over and above all the other variances of our species and so there's no real reason to carry on with out dated concepts such as the one you describe above.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035
    Originally posted by Hazelle
    Originally posted by 1223423412
    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    They would be Japanese citizens but they would not be ethnically Japanese because they would have a different Haplogroup. Genetics do not  not change just because one becomes a citizen.

    And there go the human race's ability to fly without the use of technology, oh no wait the genetically Japanese can't do that; hmmmm, I guess there's really nothing special about being genetically Japanese over and above all the other variances of our species and so there's no real reason to carry on with out dated concepts such as the one you describe above.

    There is a special breed of insanity that I believe they even have a colloquialization for. We cannot rob the world of things such as this;

    That, my friend, is the product of genetics and thousands of years of isolationism. Where would we be without their specific brand of wacky?

    Add too many immigrants and "outsiders" to the mix, and they will ruin the national zeitgeist with their prudency. As an American, I can attest to the melting pot making it too hard to have a unified sense of culture and style - which in itself is amazing - but so is Japan's own brand of insanity... which  they will lose if they don't keep inbree--er--having babies.

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  • HazelleHazelle Member Posts: 760
    Originally posted by GTwander
    Originally posted by Hazelle
    Originally posted by 1223423412
    Originally posted by Hazelle

    Also:  This way of thinking is a bunch of xenophobic crap - are you telling me that immigrants to Japan don't become as Japanese as a person whose ethnically Japanese?

    They would be Japanese citizens but they would not be ethnically Japanese because they would have a different Haplogroup. Genetics do not  not change just because one becomes a citizen.

    And there go the human race's ability to fly without the use of technology, oh no wait the genetically Japanese can't do that; hmmmm, I guess there's really nothing special about being genetically Japanese over and above all the other variances of our species and so there's no real reason to carry on with out dated concepts such as the one you describe above.

    There is a special breed of insanity that I believe they even have a colloquialization for. We cannot rob the world of things such as this;

    That, my friend, is the product of genetics and thousands of years of isolationism. Where would we be without their specific brand of wacky?

    Add too many immigrants and "outsiders" to the mix, and they will ruin the national zeitgeist with their prudency. As an American, I can attest to the melting pot making it too hard to have a unified sense of culture and style - which in itself is amazing - but so is Japan's own brand of insanity... which  they will lose if they don't keep inbree--er--having babies.

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  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

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  • SoulSurferSoulSurfer Member UncommonPosts: 1,024

    I just bought a Toyota GT-86.

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