General: MMOFTW - The Best of E3 2012 Awards

BillMurphy

This year's E3 was filled the brim with new and upcoming MMOs. In this week's MMOFTW we award the five best and brightest from the recent trade show. Take a look at the video for our Best of E3 2012 Awards beyond the break!

Every year, it seems like E3 goes through a complete overhaul. This year, instead of being about games, the main focus seemed to be booth-babes and bloody executions. Luckily, there was actually one area where games seemed to matter and diversity and attempts in innovations were actually present: MMOs. This year’s show was actually a fairly strong one for the MMO, despite folks like NCsoft and Blizzard not being in attendance. When all was said and done, we sat down to figure out just which titles stood out the most to us, and which ones deserved special distinction in our five award categories. Watch the special edition of MMOFTW to see which game took home our Game of Show at E3 2012.

Watch the full MMOFTW - E3 2012 Awards Show.

 

Xstatic912

No Neverwinter? too bad..

BillMurphy

Did you watch the show? Neverwinter won an award, mate.

Senadina

Wow, you guys really didn't like Defiance if your complete overlooking of the game is any indication. What are you not telling us, and should we be worried?

Khayotix

BOOM Planetside 2 comes from left field for GAME OF SHOW!

 

(Bill! I am confused though, Your nominee's list doesnt state half the games, that actually won said category.)

Khayotix

Originally posted by Senadina

Wow, you guys really didn't like Defiance if your complete overlooking of the game is any indication. What are you not telling us, and should we be worried?

 

Watch the Video Defiance Won an award.

Senadina

Originally posted by Saryhl

Originally posted by Senadina

Wow, you guys really didn't like Defiance if your complete overlooking of the game is any indication. What are you not telling us, and should we be worried?

 

Watch the Video Defiance Won an award.

 But then I have to listen to Bill talk....really just kidding Bill. Because I feel stupid.

Lawlmonster

Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

 

Enjoyed the video, though. Keep it up.

Yuui

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Originally posted by Lawlmonster Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

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With all the respect, we never got a real "Cryptic" mmo. 

 

Both of their previous titles came out under Atari. And Atari is the main thing at fault for rushing Age of Conan too. 

 

this is the first title that Cryptic is not releasing under Atari. 

Its interesting on how differently gaming journalists and "average joes' view Neverwinter. Press seems to love it and I do love it too, but majority seem to be intent on outright despising it. Funny.
AS for ESO. While its standard WOW clickfest, the brand-recognition alone DOES make it the most anticipated title. Out of all the games in the list, Elder Scrolls is the biggest  brand name, dwarfing everyone else by a mile    

Lawlmonster

Originally posted by Yuui

 

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Originally posted by Lawlmonster Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

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With all the respect, we never got a real "Cryptic" mmo. 

 

 

Both of their previous titles came out under Atari. And Atari is the main thing at fault for rushing Age of Conan too. 

 

this is the first title that Cryptic is not releasing under Atari. 

Its interesting on how differently gaming journalists and "average joes' view Neverwinter. Press seems to love it and I do love it too, but majority seem to be intent on outright despising it. Funny.
AS for ESO. While its standard WOW clickfest, the brand-recognition alone DOES make it the most anticipated title. Out of all the games in the list, Elder Scrolls is the biggest  brand name, dwarfing everyone else by a mile    

 

Personally, I'm not willing to place all of the blame on Atari. Sure, they were involved, but Cryptic was still developing these titles, and they were absolutely terrible.

 

As for ESO, I'm having trouble understanding how someone can relate the brand to the product that's being shown. The only variables they share are in name alone, so if people are getting excited by what the newest themepark garbage is referred to, color me depressed. Still, I understand your point and I think it's valid.

PyrateLV

Originally posted by Yuui

 

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Originally posted by Lawlmonster Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

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With all the respect, we never got a real "Cryptic" mmo. 

 

Both of their previous titles came out under Atari. And Atari is the main thing at fault for rushing Age of Conan too. 

 

this is the first title that Cryptic is not releasing under Atari. 

Its interesting on how differently gaming journalists and "average joes' view Neverwinter. Press seems to love it and I do love it too, but majority seem to be intent on outright despising it. Funny.
AS for ESO. While its standard WOW clickfest, the brand-recognition alone DOES make it the most anticipated title. Out of all the games in the list, Elder Scrolls is the biggest  brand name, dwarfing everyone else by a mile    

CoH/CoV ring a bell? STO is the same game with a different skin. NWN looks to be in the same style.

Yes its a new Publisher, but its still Cryptic and they are still following that "MMO in a Box" 2 years Dev cycle idea

Oh and Cryptic didnt make DCUO. They made Champions Online. Still a horrible game

 

Popular IP name to sell a game    

BillMurphy

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Personally, I'm not willing to place all of the blame on Atari. Sure, they were involved, but Cryptic was still developing these titles, and they were absolutely terrible.

 

As for ESO, I'm having trouble understanding how someone can relate the brand to the product that's being shown. The only variables they share are in name alone, so if people are getting excited by what the newest themepark garbage is referred to, color me depressed. Still, I understand your point and I think it's valid.

I understand your concern. I shared it. But I really do think it looks like an excellent MMO so far, and everyone there for MMORPG did as well. And we were all skeptics. 

MikeB

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

Enjoyed the video, though. Keep it up.

So, what would be your picks then?

Wicoa

Happily surprised Planetside 2 won the show,  it has won on other sites too. So badly want in!

 

Murphy my chap I like your jokes next time tell more of them please, no thats not sarcastic.

 

Lawlmonster

Originally posted by BillMurphy

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Personally, I'm not willing to place all of the blame on Atari. Sure, they were involved, but Cryptic was still developing these titles, and they were absolutely terrible.

 

As for ESO, I'm having trouble understanding how someone can relate the brand to the product that's being shown. The only variables they share are in name alone, so if people are getting excited by what the newest themepark garbage is referred to, color me depressed. Still, I understand your point and I think it's valid.

I understand your concern. I shared it. But I really do think it looks like an excellent MMO so far, and everyone there for MMORPG did as well. And we were all skeptics. 

 

Good to hear. Wish I could have been on the floor to see it myself, but I'm glad to know you guys went in skeptical.

Lawlmonster

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

Enjoyed the video, though. Keep it up.

So, what would be your picks then?

 

I would rather leave spots empty than fill them with titles that I thought were an afront to the genre, but that's just a personal perspective, and obviously one that isn't shared.

Obiyer

GG Planetside 2, really looking forward to it! 

Khayotix

Planetside 2 Do want!

Yuui

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Originally posted by PyrateLV

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Originally posted by Yuui  

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Originally posted by Lawlmonster Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

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With all the respect, we never got a real "Cryptic" mmo.    Both of their previous titles came out under Atari. And Atari is the main thing at fault for rushing Age of Conan too.    this is the first title that Cryptic is not releasing under Atari.  Its interesting on how differently gaming journalists and "average joes' view Neverwinter. Press seems to love it and I do love it too, but majority seem to be intent on outright despising it. Funny. AS for ESO. While its standard WOW clickfest, the brand-recognition alone DOES make it the most anticipated title. Out of all the games in the list, Elder Scrolls is the biggest  brand name, dwarfing everyone else by a mile    

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CoH/CoV ring a bell? STO is the same game with a different skin. NWN looks to be in the same style.

Yes its a new Publisher, but its still Cryptic and they are still following that "MMO in a Box" 2 years Dev cycle idea

Oh and Cryptic didnt make DCUO. They made Champions Online. Still a horrible game

 

Popular IP name to sell a game    

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And COH/COV is still one of THE BEST mmo titles in existence. your point being?

Also now Neverwinter has been in development for far longer than two years. Atari had a philosophy of "quick buck over quality" with EVERYTHING they did, hence why they ran themselves into the ground. Neverwinter the moment it left ATari's grasp instantly got one year more of development time. That alone proves a LOT on how much atari influenced and controlled cryptic

And yes. Popular IP tends to sell games. Thats why you get complete kitsch like star wars dance off and it still sells. Because of brand recognition. The quality level of ESO does not matter. The ammount of recognition it gets from the brand itself does.

Ambros123

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by Yuui

 

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Originally posted by Lawlmonster Really, NWN and Elder Scrolls? Two of the worst looking titles on the horizon, and one of them's made by Cryptic. You'd think the lesson would have already been learned after the likes of STO and DCUO.

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With all the respect, we never got a real "Cryptic" mmo. 

 

Both of their previous titles came out under Atari. And Atari is the main thing at fault for rushing Age of Conan too. 

 

this is the first title that Cryptic is not releasing under Atari. 

Its interesting on how differently gaming journalists and "average joes' view Neverwinter. Press seems to love it and I do love it too, but majority seem to be intent on outright despising it. Funny.
AS for ESO. While its standard WOW clickfest, the brand-recognition alone DOES make it the most anticipated title. Out of all the games in the list, Elder Scrolls is the biggest  brand name, dwarfing everyone else by a mile    

CoH/CoV ring a bell? STO is the same game with a different skin. NWN looks to be in the same style.

Yes its a new Publisher, but its still Cryptic and they are still following that "MMO in a Box" 2 years Dev cycle idea

Oh and Cryptic didnt make DCUO. They made Champions Online. Still a horrible game

 

Popular IP name to sell a game    

And yet time after time again with every single title of Atari they've rushed products through the door.  NWN2, AoC apparetnly by some, Daggerfall (which was so bad that Microsft ordered a recall and pulled a "fix this shit" card of em).  Atari always wanted to make a quick buckl and always were in some shady dealings like how they tied/did sabotage DDO in Europe.

With Neverwinter and PWE Cryptic is given the space they need to fully develope this game.  amoung other indications that fact that they are not including PvP at launch but in 2013 when it is finished right shows that they are in for the lon haul and are trying to provide a quality MMO.

Also Neverwinter has been in the workls a lot longer than 2 years.

Dakirn

Does that mean that MMORPG actually got to play Elder Scrolls while there? All of the other gaming sites I've seen only saw the fly through videos meant for press consumption.

If you didn't, well.. I'm not sure how it can be all that "impressive" since it sounds like GW2 in an Elder Scrolls IP to me.  Plus in the interview G4 did they seemed really dodgy about every question Morgan asked them... somehow I don't get a lot of trust from anyone on their team when I see them speak.  Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Domenicus

It seens like a very shy E3 for me... At least on MMO ground. Maybe that´s why they picked these games. It should not have much to pick from... I still look for WoD as my holy grail of MMO...

Kyleran

Originally posted by BillMurphy

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Personally, I'm not willing to place all of the blame on Atari. Sure, they were involved, but Cryptic was still developing these titles, and they were absolutely terrible.

 

As for ESO, I'm having trouble understanding how someone can relate the brand to the product that's being shown. The only variables they share are in name alone, so if people are getting excited by what the newest themepark garbage is referred to, color me depressed. Still, I understand your point and I think it's valid.

I understand your concern. I shared it. But I really do think it looks like an excellent MMO so far, and everyone there for MMORPG did as well. And we were all skeptics. 

I haven't watched the video yet (I normally won't) however with all due respect, you guys tend to be a bit too positive (D3 at 8.5, really? and let's not get started on SWG) so you aren't the best skeptics out there.

Maybe your right, I don't know much about either title right now, so we'll have to see how good a prophets you guys turn out to be.

 

 

DannyGlover

Probably shouldn't hand out awards to games you didn't actually play. Just sayin'... Unless the award is for "Best Game We Didn't Actually Play". But that would be stupid, right?

Thorkune

You are mastering these segments Bill...great job!

PyrateLV

Originally posted by DannyGlover

Probably shouldn't hand out awards to games you didn't actually play. Just sayin'... Unless the award is for "Best Game We Didn't Actually Play". But that would be stupid, right?

These "awards" are more for "Who Hyped their Game the Best"

 

Think of E3 as an Old Time Circus. All the different Sideshows, each with a Barker and some wild advertising banners, all trying to get you to come in and see the "bearded tattooed dwarf cyclops mermaid".