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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Soandsoso

    For every person in chat saying this or that was bugged there were others saying it worked fine for them just minutes prior. Never came across a bugged quest myself.

    ^

    This

    Of they were bugged because I could not figure it out :P

     Contrary to what you think it has nothing to do with being able to figure it out. Your response doesn't even make any sense. If it was an investigative quest like Kingsmouth Code they were complaining about it would. These quests? There isn't  anything to figure out. Doesn't really say much that you can't...well...figure that out.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • mstrsrevatimstrsrevati Member UncommonPosts: 100

    I just wanted to add my little complaint about the game.  It's too dark, and what's up with the characters faces? It took me forever to make up a character that didn't look like some strung out old lady.  Yet on the advertisement, there's a beautiful Templar with flowing blonde hair.  I saw no hair styles that were long, all short, and the faces of the people were ugly if you ask me.  Yes this might be petty as far as play goes, but if you're a role player like myself you like to look good.  I did however love that you had a lot of options for your outfit.  Other then that it reminded me alot of Fallen Earth, dark, dreary and alot of running arouond.  I won't be buying this one.  Glad I got to test it.

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  • SaxonbladeSaxonblade Member Posts: 275
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Soandsoso

    For every person in chat saying this or that was bugged there were others saying it worked fine for them just minutes prior. Never came across a bugged quest myself.

    ^

    This

    Of they were bugged because I could not figure it out :P

     Contrary to what you think it has nothing to do with being able to figure it out. Your response doesn't even make any sense. If it was an investigative quest like Kingsmouth Code they were complaining about it would. These quests? There isn't  anything to figure out. Doesn't really say much that you can't...well...figure that out.

    Do you know how many people spammed the dirty laundry quest saying it was bugged, or the White Ravens from Something Wicked, or how about the tunnels with the symbols. Everyone of these quests was not bugged but because many could not figure them out they spammed general crying they are bugged.

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Soandsoso

    For every person in chat saying this or that was bugged there were others saying it worked fine for them just minutes prior. Never came across a bugged quest myself.

    ^

    This

    Of they were bugged because I could not figure it out :P

     Contrary to what you think it has nothing to do with being able to figure it out. Your response doesn't even make any sense. If it was an investigative quest like Kingsmouth Code they were complaining about it would. These quests? There isn't  anything to figure out. Doesn't really say much that you can't...well...figure that out.

    Do you know how many people spammed the dirty laundry quest saying it was bugged, or the White Ravens from Something Wicked, or how about the tunnels with the symbols. Everyone of these quests was not bugged but because many could not figure them out they spammed general crying they are bugged.

     ...and again. I'm not referring to those.

    Frankly, I never saw anyone say those were bugged anyways. Simply saw people asking for the answers a couple hundred times. Which is disappointing but whatever. There were definitely a lot of people that didn't even really try or have the patience to solve the quests that did involve some thinking.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • ThorbrandThorbrand Member Posts: 1,198
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Soandsoso

    For every person in chat saying this or that was bugged there were others saying it worked fine for them just minutes prior. Never came across a bugged quest myself.

    ^

    This

    Of they were bugged because I could not figure it out :P

     Contrary to what you think it has nothing to do with being able to figure it out. Your response doesn't even make any sense. If it was an investigative quest like Kingsmouth Code they were complaining about it would. These quests? There isn't  anything to figure out. Doesn't really say much that you can't...well...figure that out.

    Do you know how many people spammed the dirty laundry quest saying it was bugged, or the White Ravens from Something Wicked, or how about the tunnels with the symbols. Everyone of these quests was not bugged but because many could not figure them out they spammed general crying they are bugged.

    Yes many people are not use to playing MMOs where the PvE isn't handed to you. Even though I played EQ at launch it took a few to remember how to play a true MMO since we have been hand feed for about 10yrs now.

    I seen not one bugged quest and I have now ran them all 3 times in Kingsmough.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Thorbrand

    Yes many people are not use to playing MMOs where the PvE isn't handed to you. Even though I played EQ at launch it took a few to remember how to play a true MMO since we have been hand feed for about 10yrs now.

    I seen not one bugged quest and I have now ran them all 3 times in Kingsmough.

     Savage Coast man...Savage Coast. Not referring to Kingsmouth. Gheesh...

    Although there were those that had problems with the trapped man and Tango. I didn't but unlike some around here just because I didn't experience it does not mean there weren't issues in either respawn times or something someone could do that would inadvertantly break the quest in whatever instance those folks were in.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • SaxonbladeSaxonblade Member Posts: 275
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Thorbrand

    Yes many people are not use to playing MMOs where the PvE isn't handed to you. Even though I played EQ at launch it took a few to remember how to play a true MMO since we have been hand feed for about 10yrs now.

    I seen not one bugged quest and I have now ran them all 3 times in Kingsmough.

     Savage Coast man...Savage Coast. Not referring to Kingsmouth. Gheesh...

    Although there were those that had problems with the trapped man and Tango. I didn't but unlike some around here just because I didn't experience it does not mean there weren't issues in either respawn times or something someone could do that would inadvertantly break the quest in whatever instance those folks were in.

    Did you bug report them? If so you did your job and if they are bugged FC will look into them, why go on about it.

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Saxonblade

    Did you bug report them? If so you did your job and if they are bugged FC will look into them, why go on about it.

     Of course I reported them.

    Why go on about anything on forums? Because that is the discussion at hand in relation to what I originally responded to.

    I find it interesting that poster simply said SC is the most bugged zone and the rest of the game is good. Which is fine. He very well could be right.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
     

     Savage Coast man...Savage Coast. Not referring to Kingsmouth. Gheesh...

    Although there were those that had problems with the trapped man and Tango. I didn't but unlike some around here just because I didn't experience it does not mean there weren't issues in either respawn times or something someone could do that would inadvertantly break the quest in whatever instance those folks were in.

    Out of all the missions in Savage Coast, there was only three missions that had issues I know of last weekend.

    Jack, Purple, Black House.

    3 isn't that bad and they've been working on them.  Black House was actually fixed by late Saturday Night/Sunday Morning.

    The telescope thing was also an issue, but that wasn't a bug.  It was more of the telescope is far too touchy on what it wants you to look at.

     

    There were plenty of people whom didn't know how to spit and couldn't think for themselves to open puzzle doors - or to bother with reading the mission to figure out how to find the vault door in the first place.

     

  • SaxonbladeSaxonblade Member Posts: 275
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade

    Did you bug report them? If so you did your job and if they are bugged FC will look into them, why go on about it.

     Of course I reported them.

    Why go on about anything on forums? Because that is the discussion at hand in relation to what I originally responded to.

    I find it interesting that poster simply said SC is the most bugged zone and the rest of the game is good. Which is fine. He very well could be right.

    But what is the real discussion at hand lol, just kidding by the way, see take into account I am numb from the past week end. The sheer amount of mindless questions due to the fact people had to think somehwat, really was mind boggeling.  So if I was harsh or defensive you now know the reason and please accept my apology.

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade

    Did you bug report them? If so you did your job and if they are bugged FC will look into them, why go on about it.

     Of course I reported them.

    Why go on about anything on forums? Because that is the discussion at hand in relation to what I originally responded to.

    I find it interesting that poster simply said SC is the most bugged zone and the rest of the game is good. Which is fine. He very well could be right.

    But what is the real discussion at hand lol, just kidding by the way, see take into account I am numb from the past week end. The sheer amount of mindless questions due to the fact people had to think somehwat, really was mind boggeling.  So if I was harsh or defensive you now know the reason and please accept my apology.

     No worries. Think we've all been there.

    It was disconcerting how many didn't even seem to try to solve the quests with puzzles. To me that is one of the more interesting portions of this game. If they don't care for it then I don't really get why they want to play this game. What fun is the quests if you just ask for the answers? To each their own I suppose. Glad I got to experience them a few betas back too since even if you did want to figure them out on your own this weekend you had to deal with someone giving out the answers in chat like every five minutes.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • SaxonbladeSaxonblade Member Posts: 275
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade

    Did you bug report them? If so you did your job and if they are bugged FC will look into them, why go on about it.

     Of course I reported them.

    Why go on about anything on forums? Because that is the discussion at hand in relation to what I originally responded to.

    I find it interesting that poster simply said SC is the most bugged zone and the rest of the game is good. Which is fine. He very well could be right.

    But what is the real discussion at hand lol, just kidding by the way, see take into account I am numb from the past week end. The sheer amount of mindless questions due to the fact people had to think somehwat, really was mind boggeling.  So if I was harsh or defensive you now know the reason and please accept my apology.

     No worries. Think we've all been there.

    It was disconcerting how many didn't even seem to try to solve the quests with puzzles. To me that is one of the more interesting portions of this game. If they don't care for it then I don't really get why they want to play this game. What fun is the quests if you just ask for the answers? To each their own I suppose. Glad I got to experience them a few betas back too since even if you did want to figure them out on your own this weekend you had to deal with someone giving out the answers in chat like every five minutes.

    I know right, which is why I think FC did not show all the Investigation quests in SC, but honestly if you took some time and a step back you could figure the quests out. I am not talking about bugged ones either, this one guy was raging on the white ravens and finally just told us all to fuck off and logged I guess lol, such rage from a lack of a brain.

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Saxonblade

    I know right, which is why I think FC did not show all the Investigation quests in SC, but honestly if you took some time and a step back you could figure the quests out. I am not talking about bugged ones either, this one guy was raging on the white ravens and finally just told us all to fuck off and logged I guess lol, such rage from a lack of a brain.

     Which is smart really. Just way too many folks that could give a damn and felt like spoiling things for others. So kudos to FC really on holding back on those.

    Yeah, saw a few of those myself. One got pissed because the person helping them was doing it in hints rather than directly giving them the answer. Guy had the nerve to start calling the person names and then went on a soapbox about how WoW and GW2 are far superior anyways before logging off.

    ...and this was Dirty Laundry no less. Would love to have seen what would happen with Kingsmouth Code XD

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • SaxonbladeSaxonblade Member Posts: 275
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Saxonblade

    I know right, which is why I think FC did not show all the Investigation quests in SC, but honestly if you took some time and a step back you could figure the quests out. I am not talking about bugged ones either, this one guy was raging on the white ravens and finally just told us all to fuck off and logged I guess lol, such rage from a lack of a brain.

     Which is smart really. Just way too many folks that could give a damn and felt like spoiling things for others. So kudos to FC really on holding back on those.

    Yeah, saw a few of those myself. One got pissed because the person helping them was doing it in hints rather than directly giving them the answer. Guy had the nerve to start calling the person names and then went on a soapbox about how WoW and GW2 are far superior anyways before logging off.

    ...and this was Dirty Laundry no less. Would love to have seen what would happen with Kingsmouth Code XD

    Haha, during the Jail cell Teir of Something Wicked some player kept telling another player to go kill himself as a hint and the other player spammed back REPORTED for Threatening me,never in my life..............

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  • BlackbrrdBlackbrrd Member Posts: 811
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
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     No worries. Think we've all been there.

    It was disconcerting how many didn't even seem to try to solve the quests with puzzles. To me that is one of the more interesting portions of this game. If they don't care for it then I don't really get why they want to play this game. What fun is the quests if you just ask for the answers? To each their own I suppose. Glad I got to experience them a few betas back too since even if you did want to figure them out on your own this weekend you had to deal with someone giving out the answers in chat like every five minutes.

    Thanks for the reply regarding the missions that bugged out for you. Btw, isn't the quest with dog Tango in Kingsmouth? (Or maybe you are referring to another quest with Tango, I haven't been over SC too thouroughly.)

    Anyway, it looks like one of those missions got fixed during this beta weekend and the one with the hell rifts is one I have done myself without bugs, so probably not a huge problem for Funcom to fix?

    Any game is going to have some bugs or problems like the keybinding issue in BF3 or error 37 in Diablo 3. Looking at the speed Funcom are fixing reported bugs, most should be done by launch. One thing I have noticed this beta weekend is the absense of problems with the servers, both regarding login and lagg. Seems they have a solid system to back them up. If the upcoming PvP weekend is as solid I think Funcom will deliver at launch.

    Regarding the puzzle quests I do agree with you, even though I usually end up asking for hints - I am terrible at those types of quests. Hints are good though and I have gotten a lot of very good replies which have been helpful without spoiling anything.

  • Mors-SubitaMors-Subita Member UncommonPosts: 517
    Originally posted by Touc

    I finished the entire Kingsmouth zone and I found the "puzzles" to not require much thought or research ingame. I'm guessing that the puzzles are harder later on?

    I said the same thing, and got ripped apart in another thread... The only places where I got stumped at all was on "the visions", and that was just cause I didn't have my headset on and was in combat when she called with the new clue, once I checked my quest log I was able to continue, and when I checked the bible for one of the investigations and my translation had it listed as 9000lbs instead of 120 talents.

     

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  • SaxonbladeSaxonblade Member Posts: 275
    Originally posted by Mors-Subita
    Originally posted by Touc

    I finished the entire Kingsmouth zone and I found the "puzzles" to not require much thought or research ingame. I'm guessing that the puzzles are harder later on?

    I said the same thing, and got ripped apart in another thread... The only places where I got stumped at all was on "the visions", and that was just cause I didn't have my headset on and was in combat when she called with the new clue, once I checked my quest log I was able to continue, and when I checked the bible for one of the investigations and my translation had it listed as 9000lbs instead of 120 talents.

     

    Just because some of us did not have many issues with the puzzles does not mean many and I mean many did, which if you think about it is a very sad state of affairs. They should rename the main quest to "I see Dumb People" :P because they were all around me in beta or lazy or both............

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Blackbrrd

    Thanks for the reply regarding the missions that bugged out for you. Btw, isn't the quest with dog Tango in Kingsmouth? (Or maybe you are referring to another quest with Tango, I haven't been over SC too thouroughly.)

    Anyway, it looks like one of those missions got fixed during this beta weekend and the one with the hell rifts is one I have done myself without bugs, so probably not a huge problem for Funcom to fix?

    Any game is going to have some bugs or problems like the keybinding issue in BF3 or error 37 in Diablo 3. Looking at the speed Funcom are fixing reported bugs, most should be done by launch. One thing I have noticed this beta weekend is the absense of problems with the servers, both regarding login and lagg. Seems they have a solid system to back them up. If the upcoming PvP weekend is as solid I think Funcom will deliver at launch.

    Regarding the puzzle quests I do agree with you, even though I usually end up asking for hints - I am terrible at those types of quests. Hints are good though and I have gotten a lot of very good replies which have been helpful without spoiling anything.

     Yeah, Tango was in Kingsmouth. I was trying to be funny and poke some fun at the fact that the ashes appeared to be gone like Tango was for many during the BWE. Apparently it is a shitty joke because people think I'm saying the quest with him is in SC lol.

    My hope is that there aren't a ton of bugs. That is my concern.

    The servers were incredibly stable and I don't think I experienced lag at all. Which was nice. PvP is going to be interesting. Hopefully it is stable. Be prepared for a lot of bellyaching though. Not all skill sets are equal so you know what that is going to lead to. Much ranting and raving.

    Nothing wrong with asking for hints far as I'm concerned. I have to be honest. If I wasn't brought up in a Catholic background I doubt I would have figured those quests out or least not as "easily". Same with a quest later on. Chance are if I hadn't encountered the same type in LotR I may have been lost as well.

    But some...I mean there were people asking for the coordinates for the Captain's Log quest. I mean...seriously? W...t...f

    ...and lol at your story Saxon. Guy must have felt really silly when he realized the person wasn't harassing him.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • SenthysisSenthysis Member Posts: 8
    Originally posted by Saxonblade
    Originally posted by Mors-Subita
    Originally posted by Touc

    I finished the entire Kingsmouth zone and I found the "puzzles" to not require much thought or research ingame. I'm guessing that the puzzles are harder later on?

    I said the same thing, and got ripped apart in another thread... The only places where I got stumped at all was on "the visions", and that was just cause I didn't have my headset on and was in combat when she called with the new clue, once I checked my quest log I was able to continue, and when I checked the bible for one of the investigations and my translation had it listed as 9000lbs instead of 120 talents.

     

    Just because some of us did not have many issues with the puzzles does not mean many and I mean many did, which if you think about it is a very sad state of affairs. They should rename the main quest to "I see Dumb People" :P because they were all around me in beta or lazy or both............

    The game was a breath of fresh air for those who like to use their brain to solve the puzzles.  It was appalling (not surprising) to see the number of YouTube vids already posted on how to beat some of the simplest investigation quests.  I have to admit, The Kingsmouth Code had me stumped for several hours, and Something Wicked had me going for a while until it kind of hit me as  how to "ask a ghost for the truth".

    Completing quests like that gave a huge sense of accomplishment and, in some way, a sense of masochism as I would rush to find the next investigation quest to beat my head on a wall over.

    Simply put... I love what they've done with this game.

     

    My only complaint is there seems to be a small memory leak and I don't like the excuse "upgrade to 64-bit" given when the bug reporter pops up.

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Kost
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    maybe I missed something but following a little tag that floated around omn my screen giving me the distance to the quest objective did not seem really different. But then I only messed with it for a few hours, game was just not "fun" in my opinion

    You've never had anything good to say about a FunCom game, biased opinions are just that, and as such as completely invalid.

    well  glad to know you have followed my postings since the AO days. Life is too short to play crap games and the combat, controls, and animations in this one is crap. FC seems to always do things half ass and release games that are great in some aspects but total piles of dung in others, sad but true. AO nad AoC both had some great features as does TSW, but all had some game breaking flaws also. One would think FC would learn, but guess not

    I miss DAoC

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    They are going to have to look at certain builds for pvp, I have a build that one shots fairly tough mobs, like draugr. I know of another build where your practically unkillable. Thing is they would need to fix these for pve anyway. It's not like a class based mmo, where having a Gimp class means your stuck. They just have to keep an eye on extreme builds.
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