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Something tells me that moderators may have something to do with this mystery,
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Heh, yeah. I made the mistake of reading the comments sections of a number of Youtube videos I surfed lately. I felt my IQ drop with a point for every hour I stayed and posted there, I barely managed to draw my eyes away right before I'd start growling 'grrr! World bad! People bad! Banana cookies good'
I have been visitng these forums since days of Vanguard and even then forums were all about PVP. Not much has changed.
Real vets only exists is army by the way. Not here.
It's a conspiracy!
(this forum inspired me
)
I started the weekend beta ready to pre order but after 4 hours I could not take the gameplay and deleted it from my HD happy that I still had my money in my bank account. Now it is back to playing SWOTOR till GW2
I like a lot of things about the game but the animation and combat just did not cut it for me. I say each to their own, and no ill will towards the ones that enjoy it
I miss DAoC
If you go to buy something do you only read the 5 star ratings? If you want to find out the good and bad about that Ice cream maker you like, you should read a sample of all the different ratings (some positive ratings glance over or minimize problems that maybe you want to know about).
Its not really surprising that the official forms are more positive. One thing is Funcon can remove posts they don't like. Another thing is people who enjoy the game are more likely to post on the official forms.
I think you get a more honest opinion here, but you have to take everything with a grain of salt, because people can get carried away or hate just to hate.
Laying bad combat on the backburner is a hell of a stretch.
It gets tricky here because people will hate on a game to the point of spreading misinformation about it. The official forums tend to get overly positive and you cant get a straight answer on concerns or reservations. For me, it boils down to experiencing something myself and there are a few posters here and there that I can trust to be less agenda based than others.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
? Are you sure about that? Dunno about WAR, but I've had some great forum 'wars' in 2011 on the official SWTOR forums, there were a hell of a lot of them, damn those days were fun
OP - you say 'negative' I say 'Objective'.
the TSW forums are no doub't visted by believers versus people on these forums who critique the game for what it is, not what it hopes to be. ( the danger being that it might no become that - so irrelevant at this point )
At least 90% of the posts on TSW are fair in their criticism of certain elements of gameplay IMO - why do we need to be polite when we say "some of the combat animations are terrible" ?
FC released the beta for our feedback - ppl here have given it....
I was on the fence but after this weekend and at times watching general chat I am buying this game, why you might ask? I will tell you, because it will turn off the entitlement, I want it now with no effort crowd, I never saw soo many dumb questions asked by the same people over and over and over. These people do not take the time to figure out these investigation quests then scream in general the quest is broke, I have never played a game where I had to step back and think about what I was doing the way you do here.
On top of that there are certain people on these forums that only like one game and will do everything in their power to bash any competition (just look at their post history). Play the beta and decide for yourself if the game is for you, after all the beta costs nothing but some time unlike another game that requires a cash outlay for the most part to even sample it.
Anyhow back to beta because I am having a freaking blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I posted a bit to the official forums, few months ago, but over half the threads I posted in got locked or deleted. Or "cleaned up" in a way that removed entire pages of replies. Not because of my posts, but someone would get a little too negative, and the mod would shut down the whole conversation. Seemed like it happened to almost every thread that had a critical slant to it.
So yeah, that sort of climate can make the whole atmosphere seem more positive, especially for a niche game where that kind of moderation is more viable. Working as intended, I guess, but I sure as hell wouldn't post there anymore, even when I was still interested in the game.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
The simple fact is that even a remotely negative post on the official forums is met with a wall of fanboyism. Even constructive criticism posts are not safe.
MMORPG.com is sort of a neutral ground where people can post their opinions without getting swarmed by an angry group of fanboys who, instead of playing the game that they love, for some reason waste their time on the forums.
Plus the mods on the official forums have the same interpretation of "freedom of speech" as the KGB.
The game is good in alot of ways....unfortunatley, it fails in the most important section of all: comabt.
The world is really cool and fun to explore, even better are the NPC's, they are some of the coolest NPC's in terms of desing to ever enter an MMO worlds.....although they arent the smartest :P.
But in the end, how fun a game is, is what matter. And the combat is just straffing and hammering 2 or 3 number keys, WITHOUT much thought process required.
I dont think a whole dramatic combat system is what the next step is in MMO's, I think one that requires outthinking your opponent is what is really important, and so far the only MMO I have seen that in is GW2. (Trust me, I am not a GW2 fan, hated the first one, and swore against this one till I played it at a friends house last BW). Their combat system isnt really in depth, although the swapping wep sets adds a bit of variety. What I really felt in that game was having to outhink my opponent, waiting to use my skills at critical times. The best way I could describe is is LoL or Dota, you use your chars skills based on knowing what your opponent has. (I know LeBlanc has her ult, which is very heavy damage to AP, so I am going to wait and eat everything until she uses it to use my hop on Fizz). This is how I felt on GW2, which I feel TSW lacks.
Probably because the official forums has way more damage control than these ones.
Just take a look at how the official SW:ToR ones are handled, it's no different than any other game. You just have to be somewhat lucky, or quick, to catch a hate thread before it's removed and the poster banned.
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I remember it being far worse before they stepped up moderation which wasn't that long ago and the mainstream hate is nothing new either.
+1
Cheers
I love how everyone ignored this post and continued on with how mmorpg is all haters and burn-outs, or the official forums are all fan-boys...
I think even more so than with TOR, because TOR was so huge. There was a constant barrage of negative posts they had to deal with, whereas with TSW, it's just not stirring people up on the same scale. Criticism is a lot easier to just sweep under the carpet.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Well, from what I recall of his posts I read, it kinda was in line with the whole 'haters and burn-outs' discussion shindig you're referring to when it comes to mindset. But that's why I ignored it, dunno about others
The skill system was loads of fun and i'm really enjoying deck systems in games. The active/passive made things really fun. The quest, combat, and dialogue where terrible though imo. Some of the quest were fun i'll say, but tons of them were so gd bad and made no sense whatsoever. It was like half the quest they wanted to add "mystery" so they made things really arbitrary and non-intuitive.
Overall I enjoyed it for the weekend, but the positives don't make up for the flaws so I won't be playing it. I'm really hope this game does well though cause It brings in a lot of mechanics that I think are better then the wow style of things. I'd like to see more skill systems done this way.
Negative things about the game on officail forums typically get deleted by the game company. Nothing surprising here.
Don't forget Tera, it has great combat, however Tera is proof that combat alone still won't make an MMO good, it needs a good balance.
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It's not really the TOR forums. It's all the BioWare forums. I stopped going to BioWare forums during the development of Dragon Age:Origins as they'd been going downhill into a toxic shout-down-everyone-different bullying-pit since BGII.