Who's this really gonna affect, the 5 people that don't already own D3? Blizzard always has, and always will do whatever they need to do to ensure the security of their games. This is just more pointless crying from more pointless crybabies. Newsflash...they don't care what you think! They make video games, you can play them or not play them.
D2 had a ton of crazy problems for years after it launched, it still turned out to be an amazing gaming experience overall. Just like D3 will ; )
You must be paid by Blizz because most of your post is complete BS. Quite a few people do not own D3 and many who were on the ropes I am sure will look at the many constant negatives people are posting and staying away. Now the next and even larger load you spewed that Blizzard always has, and always will do whatever they need to do to ensure the security of their games means you must never have played Diablo, D2 or actually any of their games on Bnet which was constantly hacked and exploited. So while you wish to call people crybabies for pointing out underhanded business practices and the many many shortcomings of a product the rest of us with functioning braincells see you for what you are an ignorant fanboy.
Also your asinine statement that companies do not care what their customers think shows how little you know about business. Again we see you for what you are.
Who's this really gonna affect, the 5 people that don't already own D3? Blizzard always has, and always will do whatever they need to do to ensure the security of their games. This is just more pointless crying from more pointless crybabies. Newsflash...they don't care what you think! They make video games, you can play them or not play them.
D2 had a ton of crazy problems for years after it launched, it still turned out to be an amazing gaming experience overall. Just like D3 will ; )
You must be paid by Blizz because most of your post is complete BS. Quite a few people do not own D3 and many who were on the ropes I am sure will look at the many constant negatives people are posting and staying away. Now the next and even larger load you spewed that Blizzard always has, and always will do whatever they need to do to ensure the security of their games means you must never have played Diablo, D2 or actually any of their games on Bnet which was constantly hacked and exploited. So while you wish to call people crybabies for pointing out underhanded business practices and the many many shortcomings of a product the rest of us with functioning braincells see you for what you are an ignorant fanboy.
Also your asinine statement that companies do not care what their customers think shows how little you know about business. Again we see you for what you are.
+1 Yiz.
"D2 had a ton of crazy problems for years after it launched, it still turned out to be an amazing gaming experience overall. Just like D3 will ; )"
Ummm...firstly....D3 has been only a par gaming experience for most people so far at best, many people also have come away from it with no desire to ever play another Blizz game (including alot of blizz fanboys). The amount of people logging in everyday has decreased significantly since the first two weeks (check any of the places that log users online for games, www.xfire.com is one). Using an example: Skyrim didnt ever significantly lose players playing, and its gradual drop in players took months to even start. Skyrim was an amazing experience overall. It was innovative and interesting throughout. D2 was innovative and interesting throughout, it had NO noob-developer bugs (like lag in a single player game....not even Myth: The Fallen Lords had lag on their Bungie servers, and that was a game that came out in the 90s!). If you want other bugs that are just plain pathetic to have in a single player game (in which the dev had created an identical game 10 years ago, no less) just look on these forums and the blizz D3 forums.
In closing, D3 has a LOOOONGGGGGGGGGGGG way to go to ever become an amazing gaming experience overall for most gamers playing it--especially with how utterly INDIE their problems have been so far (wait....not even Indie games are released after being worked on for over 6 years with this many bugs.)
Blizzard can secure their games all they want, those games will still fail hard until they turn around and start delivering blizzard quality material again.
Blizzard can secure their games all they want, those games will still fail hard until they turn around and start delivering blizzard quality material again.
How can they deliver "Blizzard quality" that we all used to know and love when they keep getting rid of all the talent. They shut down blizzard-north. D3 blows and its getting worse with each brilliant patch they do. WOW? God knows what highschool students they have working on that now. Blizzard is all about the dollar now. Not only that thier devs have decided to TELL you what you like, how to play it, and when to play it. Spend 5 min reading blue posts. All they do is argue with the players. Fine if they where right. But thier arguments are completely flawed and one dev has no clue what the other is doing. I specifically remember Bashiok saying that they tuned drops based on the AH and when confronted about that during the reddit Q&A they said that no one said that and it simply wasnt true. Kinda hard to think they can develop a game properly when they cant even get thier shit togeather on what to tell the community.
"D2 had a ton of crazy problems for years after it launched, it still turned out to be an amazing gaming experience overall. Just like D3 will ; )"
Ummm...firstly....D3 has been only a par gaming experience for most people so far at best, many people also have come away from it with no desire to ever play another Blizz game (including alot of blizz fanboys). The amount of people logging in everyday has decreased significantly since the first two weeks (check any of the places that log users online for games, www.xfire.com is one). Using an example: Skyrim didnt ever significantly lose players playing, and its gradual drop in players took months to even start. Skyrim was an amazing experience overall. It was innovative and interesting throughout. D2 was innovative and interesting throughout, it had NO noob-developer bugs (like lag in a single player game....not even Myth: The Fallen Lords had lag on their Bungie servers, and that was a game that came out in the 90s!). If you want other bugs that are just plain pathetic to have in a single player game (in which the dev had created an identical game 10 years ago, no less) just look on these forums and the blizz D3 forums.
In closing, D3 has a LOOOONGGGGGGGGGGGG way to go to ever become an amazing gaming experience overall for most gamers playing it--especially with how utterly INDIE their problems have been so far (wait....not even Indie games are released after being worked on for over 6 years with this many bugs.)
Like with all action-rpg's in the style of Diablo, it doesn't take a player that long to finish all the acts. A lot of posters seem to think that every player that bought Diablo 3 was planning on finishing it on Inferno. Personally I doubt that will happen. Not because Inferno is unbalanced/hard/whatever, but because a lot of players will have seen the game after finishing Normal and perhaps Nightmare. It's just the same game, the same acts, just a bit harder. Looking at my dad and some of his friends, they aren't looking for a 'hardcore experience'. They just aren't interested in finishing Inferno. They will play till they get bored with it. I believe that the drop in activity some see on Xfire has to with this. Not saying it's a fact, but it seems more likely to me then that everyone of them thinks Diablo 3 is a bad game. Some glorify Diablo 2, but when you look at the amount of boxes sold and the amount of players playing it (technically people can play if offline though), it's just a fraction of the boxes sold.
The comparison with Skyrim is a bit skewed too. Diablo 3 is linear, while Skyrim (with the exception of the main quest) isn't. In Skyrim you're free to progress through the game at your own pace. A single run through Skyrim will probably take the average player longer then a single run through Diablo 3. In the long run though, Diablo 3 has multiplayer and PvP going for it, so I wouldn't be surprised when Diablo 3 will show more activity in let's say three years then Skyrim.
Saying that Skyrim was innovative is simply not true. When I compare it to Oblivion and Morrowind, I can't really say that Skyrim is so much different and innovative compared to those games. More improved, yes. More streamlined, yes. More innovative, not really so. Funny that you mention that Diablo 2 had no bugs (I've no idea what you mean with 'noob-developer' bugs), but conveniently don't mention Skyrim in this regard. Skyrim was pretty much bugged up the arse. Not as much as it's predecessors, but it had it's fair share, some even gamebreaking (backwards flying dragons ftw).
In the end I got my money's worth from Diablo 3. Blizzard seems to be busy with improving the game. Personally I'm looking forward to what Blizzard is going to release next.
There sure is a lot of fuss over this. Has anyone been negatively affected by it or is it just the possiblity of be negatively affected?
It probably isn't the case but, if this change also ment all those people that were commiting credit card fraud would anwser for their crimes ...that would be awesome.
Originally posted by MurlockDance
I am so happy I did not buy this game, but got it through the Annual Pass. It is things like this, the huge amount of Error 37s I got about a month ago, the continual disconnects, the rubber banding, the downtime due to patches, and other issues ad nauseum that make me thank my lucky stars for having done the AP rather than buy the box.
I feel ashamed I even played it. I have played once in the past two weeks and don't really miss the game. Unfortunately, it is also impacting my desire to play WoW since I am worried that Blizzard will add an RMAH to it too.
Talk about game ruiners...
Sorry man but you still essentially paid for D3 with the annual pass, especially if you aren't play WoW very much.
This has been one of my major concerns about a RMAH. The security of this has to be as legitimate as a banks in order for this to work properly. Security needs to be extended to each players account to protect people from stealing assets ('loot'), between players for transfer purposes (in game loot and RL money), between Pay Pal/banks for money transfers, all working synchronously to at least a level of 4-6 9's (99.9999(99)) accuracy and reliability. Blizzard is a game company with questionable security issues (at best) throughout it's game's history, it's not in the business of security. It needs to be, and might get it right eventually.
However, as an unintended consequence of these security measures, players who purchase the game digitally after patch 1.0.3 are temporarily being capped at level 13 and not able to proceed beyond Act I.
We are working to correct this as soon as possible and will provide another update when we have more details to share.
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You must be paid by Blizz because most of your post is complete BS. Quite a few people do not own D3 and many who were on the ropes I am sure will look at the many constant negatives people are posting and staying away. Now the next and even larger load you spewed that Blizzard always has, and always will do whatever they need to do to ensure the security of their games means you must never have played Diablo, D2 or actually any of their games on Bnet which was constantly hacked and exploited. So while you wish to call people crybabies for pointing out underhanded business practices and the many many shortcomings of a product the rest of us with functioning braincells see you for what you are an ignorant fanboy.
Also your asinine statement that companies do not care what their customers think shows how little you know about business. Again we see you for what you are.
+1 Yiz.
"D2 had a ton of crazy problems for years after it launched, it still turned out to be an amazing gaming experience overall. Just like D3 will ; )"
Ummm...firstly....D3 has been only a par gaming experience for most people so far at best, many people also have come away from it with no desire to ever play another Blizz game (including alot of blizz fanboys). The amount of people logging in everyday has decreased significantly since the first two weeks (check any of the places that log users online for games, www.xfire.com is one). Using an example: Skyrim didnt ever significantly lose players playing, and its gradual drop in players took months to even start. Skyrim was an amazing experience overall. It was innovative and interesting throughout. D2 was innovative and interesting throughout, it had NO noob-developer bugs (like lag in a single player game....not even Myth: The Fallen Lords had lag on their Bungie servers, and that was a game that came out in the 90s!). If you want other bugs that are just plain pathetic to have in a single player game (in which the dev had created an identical game 10 years ago, no less) just look on these forums and the blizz D3 forums.
In closing, D3 has a LOOOONGGGGGGGGGGGG way to go to ever become an amazing gaming experience overall for most gamers playing it--especially with how utterly INDIE their problems have been so far (wait....not even Indie games are released after being worked on for over 6 years with this many bugs.)
Blizzard can secure their games all they want, those games will still fail hard until they turn around and start delivering blizzard quality material again.
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How can they deliver "Blizzard quality" that we all used to know and love when they keep getting rid of all the talent. They shut down blizzard-north. D3 blows and its getting worse with each brilliant patch they do. WOW? God knows what highschool students they have working on that now. Blizzard is all about the dollar now. Not only that thier devs have decided to TELL you what you like, how to play it, and when to play it. Spend 5 min reading blue posts. All they do is argue with the players. Fine if they where right. But thier arguments are completely flawed and one dev has no clue what the other is doing. I specifically remember Bashiok saying that they tuned drops based on the AH and when confronted about that during the reddit Q&A they said that no one said that and it simply wasnt true. Kinda hard to think they can develop a game properly when they cant even get thier shit togeather on what to tell the community.
"D2 had a ton of crazy problems for years after it launched, it still turned out to be an amazing gaming experience overall. Just like D3 will ; )"
Mostly due to the Koreans mass-zerg flooding USEast & West, but very true.
$$$Vision has always been lazy with security and sever infrastructure (goes all the way back to D1 days)
Were D3 anywhere near as good as D1 or D2 more people would be playing it without reguard for any problem, which is what happened in the past.
Like with all action-rpg's in the style of Diablo, it doesn't take a player that long to finish all the acts. A lot of posters seem to think that every player that bought Diablo 3 was planning on finishing it on Inferno. Personally I doubt that will happen. Not because Inferno is unbalanced/hard/whatever, but because a lot of players will have seen the game after finishing Normal and perhaps Nightmare. It's just the same game, the same acts, just a bit harder. Looking at my dad and some of his friends, they aren't looking for a 'hardcore experience'. They just aren't interested in finishing Inferno. They will play till they get bored with it. I believe that the drop in activity some see on Xfire has to with this. Not saying it's a fact, but it seems more likely to me then that everyone of them thinks Diablo 3 is a bad game. Some glorify Diablo 2, but when you look at the amount of boxes sold and the amount of players playing it (technically people can play if offline though), it's just a fraction of the boxes sold.
The comparison with Skyrim is a bit skewed too. Diablo 3 is linear, while Skyrim (with the exception of the main quest) isn't. In Skyrim you're free to progress through the game at your own pace. A single run through Skyrim will probably take the average player longer then a single run through Diablo 3. In the long run though, Diablo 3 has multiplayer and PvP going for it, so I wouldn't be surprised when Diablo 3 will show more activity in let's say three years then Skyrim.
Saying that Skyrim was innovative is simply not true. When I compare it to Oblivion and Morrowind, I can't really say that Skyrim is so much different and innovative compared to those games. More improved, yes. More streamlined, yes. More innovative, not really so. Funny that you mention that Diablo 2 had no bugs (I've no idea what you mean with 'noob-developer' bugs), but conveniently don't mention Skyrim in this regard. Skyrim was pretty much bugged up the arse. Not as much as it's predecessors, but it had it's fair share, some even gamebreaking (backwards flying dragons ftw).
In the end I got my money's worth from Diablo 3. Blizzard seems to be busy with improving the game. Personally I'm looking forward to what Blizzard is going to release next.
If that stops the spammers then Im all for it.
There sure is a lot of fuss over this. Has anyone been negatively affected by it or is it just the possiblity of be negatively affected?
It probably isn't the case but, if this change also ment all those people that were commiting credit card fraud would anwser for their crimes ...that would be awesome.
Sorry man but you still essentially paid for D3 with the annual pass, especially if you aren't play WoW very much.
This has been one of my major concerns about a RMAH. The security of this has to be as legitimate as a banks in order for this to work properly. Security needs to be extended to each players account to protect people from stealing assets ('loot'), between players for transfer purposes (in game loot and RL money), between Pay Pal/banks for money transfers, all working synchronously to at least a level of 4-6 9's (99.9999(99)) accuracy and reliability. Blizzard is a game company with questionable security issues (at best) throughout it's game's history, it's not in the business of security. It needs to be, and might get it right eventually.
The 3 day waiting period is probably related to credit card chargebacks one of the largest forms of fraud in the e-commerce industry. (http://www.practicalecommerce.com/articles/720-Credit-Card-Fraud-How-Big-Is-The-Problem-) Also note that most states have a contractual time limit of between 24 and 72 hours for anyone entering into a contract to change their mind known as a 'cooling off rule: http://www.la.bbb.org/GIReport.aspx?DocumentID=72 Oh yeah....I have 2 box copies and enjoy the game but will NEVER use the RMAH, to sell or buy from.
level 13 restriction unintended
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5911721680#1
However, as an unintended consequence of these security measures, players who purchase the game digitally after patch 1.0.3 are temporarily being capped at level 13 and not able to proceed beyond Act I.
We are working to correct this as soon as possible and will provide another update when we have more details to share.
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Pretty sure I saw somewhere that bug had already been fixed?
the original Blizz post was on 6/22 and updated later on 6/26 that patch 1.0.3a removed the level restriction
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