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I'm looking for a new pc, and with there sales going on for 4th at cyberpowerpc. Came up with this. Only thing iffy is the hardrive, they do not give me an option for which brand for that.
Total is $1326, and comes with a upgrade for Windows 8. Thats about the same price to build the pc, but with my condition, would be rought to do. Anything good or bad to say about this? Could use some help plz! Thanks
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
Freebies: FREE! Tribes: Ascend Promo Pack ($60 value)
Cooling Fan: * Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Gaming Cooling Fan [+4]
Motherboard: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, XFast Technologies, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+49]
Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair XMS with Heat Spreader)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+224] (EVGA Superclocked [+10])
Power Supply Upgrade: 800 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 80 Plus Power Supply (80+ Gold) [+85]
Hard Drive: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [-34] (BLACK COLOR)
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Keyboard: (Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Razer Cyclosa Gaming Keyboard & Abyssus Gaming Mouse [-4]
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
Ultra Care Option: Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
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Do yourself a favor and read reviews on cyber/ibuy power and even look on their customer service forums and then go to AvaDirect and get you a pc. Trust me..or don't..
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
You're completely missing an SSD. Any computer without an SSD will be slow, and you don't want that on your budget. They offer a 120 GB OCZ Agility 3 for $73, so I'd grab that.
I wouldn't get a Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold power supply. It's reasonably nice, but a Corsair TX V2 series power supply will be about as good for a lot cheaper. If you do want to shell out for a high end power supply, then try a Corsair AX series one. A good 650 W power supply is plenty for your system. Dropping down to a Corsair TX650 V2 will nearly pay for the SSD.
Don't get caught up in CyberPower PC's sales. They always have one sale or another going on, and ending soon. As soon as one sale "ends", another one starts--and the new one is often nearly identical to the old one. They're trying to make you think it's an awesome deal, but only if you buy right now. Don't fall for that. Buy when you're ready, and you'll get about as good of a deal then.
Just because you don't know how to read the specs doesn't mean they're wrong.
Check the motherboard: AsRock Z77 Extreme4. AsRock's page seems to be slow today, so here's a different link to the specs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
4 rear USB 3.0 ports, plus two more onboard, sounds like plenty to me. 6 rear USB ports in total seems a little light to me, but that's pretty common on Z77 motherboards that have to waste space on monitor ports. It also has four memory slots, and as configured, would come with two of the slots filled.
A Core i5-3570K is the standard gaming processor for a high end but not completely ridiculous overkill budget.
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It's highly probable that you could get something equivalent for $100 or more cheaper by building it yourself. And if you can set up the computer when it arrives (monitors, speakers, keyboards, and so forth don't exactly plug themselves in for you), then you're probably capable of building your own.
^ This
I find CyberPower to be a bit more reliable then Dell, HP, and Lenevo. Yea, they get alot of flack for bad support, but when you work in tech those type of reviews should not come as a surprise. I think its a good to understand most people don't know much about computers or their interior. When they buy from CyberPowerPC they expect something working out of the box with very little effort involved. Alot of the cases against their support has more to do with User Error then the actual company. Also there are people who try to take advantage of support and make up stuff to get a better deal.
After looking at Tomshardware tour of the company, I don't really find them to be a bad alternative. They can overclock it for you, assemble it cleanly, and use actual good parts. I think their packaging might need some work. Poor insulation can break components. Especially if you are using an oversized CPU heatsink and lets say the truck drives over a pothole.
Before i started building my own computers about 4 years ago I purchased 3 from cyberpower and had good experiences with them.
One of them had a self-contained water cooler for the processor and showed up damaged/leaking a bit out of the radiator. They promptly cross-shipped the new part and it was a good experience for me.
Definately beats dell/hp/etc, imo.
Build your own > cyberpower pc > dell,hp
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When I was last researching between AVA Direct, Cyberpower and IBUYPOWER I went to the BBB's website and read through pages of interactions with the BBB and those three companies. Honestly, they all had their complaints, hell there was a blog that was demonizing AVA.
My final decision between the three came down to who had the better sales at the time for the hardware that I wanted. IBUYPOWER won out. I haven't had any issues with the PC I purchased and I feel really good about the ultimate price.
I got a laptop from them around 4 years ago for $1000, it still runs any game and never gave me any problems. Maybe i just got lucky
My current PC is from Cyberpower (through Newegg) and the only complaint is that they used a substandard mainboard, and the case is awful. That's more my fault for not researching components though.
It runs most things just fine, although I'm replacing it with new hardware bit by bit. Got a full tower case on the way, and am currently saving for a new motherboard (was thinking an ASUS Sabretooth 990FX or a Crosshair V) & CPU cooler.
Next time I'll build my own from scratch. That way I can be assured I get quality, future-proof components.
I just estimated the cost by adding up all the parts together and 1300 sounds about right for this computer. If you can't build a PC yourself, get it. Everything seems all right and there's a plenty of room for future upgrades. the 800w psu gives you room for another 670 in SLI. You can stick in another 8gb ram even though it's totally unnecessary. It even comes with an after market cooler so you can overclock by urself. What more can you ask? If it comes with a free win8 upgrade, I think it's a great deal!
On a side note, SSD doesn't affect your gaming experience in terms of FPS and how smooth games run. It only boosts the loading speed of whatever is installed on it, so if you use it as your boot drive(:C), windows will load much faster, but it won't affect games at all unless they are installed on your boot drive. If you really want a ssd, You can get a 120gb one for less than $100 nowadays.
Cyber Power PC lets you pick enough parts that they let you buy something very nice, but they also let you buy a piece of junk. If you pick a bunch of awful parts and then it ends up being a piece of junk, it's your own fault.
i purchased my pc from ibuypower a month ago and got my pc 2 weeks ago. it works perfectly. the price was also fair for what i was getting with it and i even got it with free shipping. the downside is they went over the 5-10 business days shipping by 1 day yet they upgraded my shipping to free 3 day shipping from the standard 5 day shipping. here is the specs of the pc i bought for $2.223.00 (did not post the items that cost less then $20 or my optical drive/i did buy 2 video cars):
1 x Case (NZXT Guardian 921 RB Gaming Case - Black w/ Blue Light))
1 x Processor (Intel® Core i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K))
1 x Motherboard ([SLI] ASRock Z77 Extreme6 -- 2x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 4x USB 3.0))
1 x Memory (8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - G.Skill Ripjaws X))
1 x Video Card (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 - 2GB - SLI Mode (Dual Cards)))
1 x Power Supply (1000 Watt - Standard)
)1 x Processor Cooling (Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid CPU Cooling System - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow)))
1 x Primary Hard Drive (1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive**Free Upgrade to 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Single Drive**)
1 x Monitor (24" LED 1920x1080 -- Sceptre E246W-1080P (23.6 viewable) - Save $60! FREE Upgrade from 22" Sceptre X220T-Naga))
1 x Operating System (Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit)
1 x Intel Smart Response Technology (SSD Cache - 60 GB Intel 520 Series))
The reason you're supposed to ask for help before buying the computer is so that you don't do something like that.
The power supply is a piece of junk. You should replace it if you care at all about the reliability of your machine.
Using an SSD as cache is really only for computers that will be used by people who are completely clueless, or perhaps for people who happen to already own a small SSD not suitable for an OS plus a few programs. As it is, you paid all of the price tag for an SSD, in return for only some of the benefits. If you're going to pay all of the price tag for an SSD, you might as well at least get all of the benefits.
Asked iBuyPower who supplies their Standard power supplies. Its Coonix or Xion. Probably Xion because Coonix does not have any 1000w PSU. I used a Xion once, it had the really cool modular cables. But that PSU isn't the really cool modular one. My guess is its this one.
What about a ssd drive ? This is a must have now a days cuts loading times in half...yes they are expensive but worth it.
Using an SSD drive as a cache is worthless, especially a 60 GB SSD. Its not like big caches are really needed anymore with 16GB of memory easy to obtain. Should use SSD for OS. Makes it really responsive. An SSD as cache would probably also reduce the SSD lifetime since its constantly writing and wiping data.
for the ssd i wanted to do the installing myself of the harddrive and the SSD setting it up the way i wanted. they are decent when setting that stuff up but i would rather do it myself, also i wanted a clean ssd not one with info already on it.
for the power supply i got a azza titan 80% bronze rating, i did not have the spare money to get a namebrand PSU.
just because you say i did not ask for help when i made my machine i did. i made several forum posts on several other sites, not this one, so i could find a good vendor that was not dell. so i was recommended to ibuypower from many people so i used them as i did not want to put it togethor myself as i did not have the time to do it.
i have OC'ed the processor and the video cards and is the main reason i got a big power supply. im currently setting at 4.9ghrz with 1.3 voltage and my gpus are sitting at 1130mhrz stable.
i am using the SSD as the main drive and the HDD as the data drive with only have the OS and 3 games at a time on the SSD. i did not want to shell out more then $100 for a ssd as more then that they are useless.