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Need Advice on a New Rig
antshock35
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I know that this thread belongs in the off topic section but no-one ever anwsers any questions there or takes 5 days too.
The only reason I ask this here is because I know some of you guys could build rigs or software in your sleep while on sleeping pills . I needed some sound advice from some expert computer gamers ....
I know cyberpc and ibuypower you can get some good rigs for cheap ,my worry is I have had a couple of friends who had issues with there new cyberpower pcs not coming with hard drives or put together.While they got them fixed for free it took a couple of months. Plus in the future how will these rigs hold up and if they burn out what will the customer service be then.
I was looking at Dell or alienware yes over priced but what I like is the warranty thru dell and also accident warranty as well (basically if you kick your rig mad you can get a new one. I also think they have a new pc program as well you can purchase basically pay like 250 and your next comp is like 50percent off when you current rig goes out of date and you don't want to update with parts.
So theres the dilema get a lot more including ssd drives for cheap with ibuypower or cyberpc or relabilty thru dell......
I am torn because Dell is so expsensive and with cyber or ibuy you can get a lot of the newest hardware...
any thoughts guys or gals??? plus I dont want to spend 4k on a rig that will be outdaqted in 2 years
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you can visit microcenter and just pickup the parts and build one, it's a great learning experience and you really get to know your pc, if anything ends up breaking in the longrun you just replace that item yourself, plus you can build a pc that can run any current game with max performance for about 1k
Post this in Hardware section and im sure Quizzical will respond very shortly.
The guy is a computer hardware genious!!!
Thanks Guys or Gals for the help ...Just looking for some ppl who know about something like this..........
P.S. you realize that there whole forums discussing computers right?
I typically build my own systems but about 3 years ago I had ibuypower build one instead and have since gone back to doing them myself. Reason being, you don't know what quality of components they use. Back then they wouldn't list the manufacturer on anything other than the MB and processor. Of course to keep the costs down they will go with cheaper components. Looking at their web site now I do notice you have a bit more choice but a lot is still unknown.
Also, your concern about taking weeks/months to fix any issues is valid. What I would suggest you do is go to a major retailer (like Bestbuy) and buy one locally. That way if there is a problem or you aren't happy with it, you can just bring it back to them. No waiting for a new one to be shipped.
What he said. Quizzical is a font of good information on hardware specs, although I still think he pimps out the SSDs a bit much.
As far as purchasing from IBUYPOWER, I purchased from them about 4-5 months ago, and I was impressed. It was my first purchase from them. Don't be stupid and pay 20 bucks for "professional wiring" and however much they charge for "more protected shipping".
My biggest problem with my PC is all of the damned cat hair in the house. Man my cat sheds like a mofo.
It's always nice to see that when someone asks for help, there's always the one armchair general that has to act like an ass. You could have simply said, Hey there's a hardware forum on mmorpg.com and even linked it. No, you decided to be a prick about it...way to go.
I bet you are swelling with friends.
Quick note to OP, Cyberpower sent my PC with cooling fan only half attached (awful rattle sound when PC started up) and with wrong MOBO update (they should have verified is was correct before it shipped, why I paid them to do it and not me). Just sharting my experience for you to reference.
The OP actually confirmed that he knows this is in wrong section. I'd actually like to know why it is specifically in GW2 boards since he mentions no link between GW2 and this computer purchase dilemma. I could assume that he's going to get a new comp for the launch of GW2, but it still make no sense since he's basically saying that he just wants as good as possible comp.
I'm not mad or being an ass, I'm just amused and wondering
I bought a 1800 dollar asus g73jhx something about 1.5years ago top of the line tht best buy offered for gaming at least at the time 3months later the was a problem with the amd 5870 driver tht asus put in and they replaced it with this years model but best buy wouldnt fix mine or replace it told me to fluck off my only option was to pay shipping and wait up to 3mnths for it to be repiared .....since then they lost about 10k in new electronics from me ..I bought a new house of course had to guy it up with all tvs and surround sounds lol.....but anyways fluck bestbuy
This is whats worng with ppl now a days was asking for help and you always get one person who wants to yell at you or call you a name. I am sorry for the wrong post ..I have already said that and the reason I posted in the gw2 forum but your too busy putting down someone to make you feel better then help....got to love ppl tht live in glass houses
That's what I was figuring too, since there's been a number of "can I run it" type hardware questions concering GW2 lately. The OP also specifically said he knows this belongs in off-topic, which also made me think that he wasn't aware that there is a hardware forum here (which Quizzical keeps quite active). So the guy posted in a forum where he knew he would at least get some answers, one of the very first was a redirection to the Hardware forums. At that point, Mr. Fundayz (ironic name) didn't even need to comment on the "wrongness" of the posting, let alone be a complete jerk about it either.
Thanks for the back up guys I did not know there was a hardware forum but i do now..Sorry to break the un written rule on here and thanks to those who redirected me to it I will repost in there.Still other then the one guy thanks to all for the help I hope you have a awsome July 4th.......
Moved to Hardware.
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Buying an extended warranty is a bad idea. They cost huge amounts of money for very little benefit, so most of the price you'd pay for the extra warranty is pure profit for Dell.
The "half off your next computer" isn't quite vendor lock-in, but it's still a bad idea. Basically, the way it will work is that when you buy your next computer, you'll be able to get something from Dell that they say is nominally worth $2000, but they'll give it to for only $1000, or 50% off. Of course, they'll give it to any random member of the general public for maybe $1400 or so, as the $2000 is a made up price that they don't expect anyone to ever pay. And if you go to another site, you could get something equivalent for $1000, without any super special discounts that you have to pay $250 to get access to.
Some computer companies try to convince you that you need to buy right now, because they've got some super special discount deal on that expires soon. Of course, as soon as it expires, they'll have another super special discount deal to replace it--and possibly one that is basically identical to the one that just "ended". The basic idea is to try to convince you that the nominal percentage discount as compared to some invented number is more important than how much you actually pay for the hardware you get.
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Two main questions:
1) What's your budget?
2) How much can you assemble yourself?
For the latter, assembling a computer from parts is a lot easier than you might think. Much of it is on the level of "you put the round peg in the round hole and the square peg in the square hole rather than the other way around". The rest is just, read the directions and follow them. The only tool you need is a screwdriver. If you don't know what hardware to get, then I can help with that.
If you're scared of building your own and think you need a prebuilt, then I'd question what you'll do with it once it gets there. Keyboards, monitors, speakers, and so forth don't just magically plug themselves in. If you can plug things into the outside of the case, then why can't you do the same inside the case? If you're going to hire someone to come to your house and plug things in for you, then you're the sort of customer that Dell and Best Buy are after.
If you can't or won't build your own, then the next best thing is to get a computer built to order from a site that tells you exactly which parts they use. A lot of sites are good at trying to dazzle potential customers with impressive sounding specs that don't actually say what hardware they use. A decent proxy is that if they tell you the exact power supply (e.g., "Seasonic X-650" or "Corsair TX650 V2", not just "650 W"), then they'll probably at least give you the option to get something nice. Dell doesn't do this, but Cyber Power PC and iBuyPower do.
Depending on your budget, Cyber Power PC and iBuyPower don't really offer anything suitable for a low budget gaming machine. AVA Direct does; their business model seems to be something to the effect of, you pick the parts, they'll order them off of New Egg or Amazon or something, screw things together for you, mark it up 10% or 20% or so, and ship it to you.
Or if you're very wealthy and figure it's better to just overpay by $500 than spend a few hours dealing with it, you can go to a site like Puget Systems that will mark things up further, but make sure you get something nice and not even give you the option to get junk.
Thanks quiz I didnt know this was moved to the hardware section...I dont want to build my own rig even thou I have done it before simply because im lazy. I am not lazy not to build it but dont want to fight to fiquere out which piece of hardware piece has burned out like last time I built a rig.....From the pre-builts on cyberpower and ibuypower can you reccomend a rig ...one with a ssd drive as the main not the cache........Thanks for the qucik response.
I am thinking of buying a new computer myself, so I went to a few reseller sites and saw that Ava Direct got excellent reviews-much better than cyber power or I buy. I went to their site and they have a forum where you can discuss your build with Ava builders and other people looking to buy a computer, it seems their prices are a hair more expensive than Cyber but they do a much better job explaining the parts and will answere all your questions. Once I save my money I will most llkely buy from them, prob wont build myself.
Good to know..thanks eddie50.....for that I will make kate upton appear magically at your house lol
What's your budget? And do you need new peripherals?
If you can make Kate Upton appear magically at my house I will buy you a new computer!
I didn't want to assemble my own computer. I didn't want to buy a pre-built either because my peripherals (i need a new keyboard, monitors, desk, chair and speakers) needed replacement as well.
So I went the uber lazy route and bought a gaming laptop. Yes, I overpaid for performance compared to self-built computer.
The key is, find your budget first. What is the max you are willing to pay? 1000? 1300? 1800?
Once you find your budget, you can then work with what you want out of the machine.
I would recommend against Dell, Alienware or, in some cases, BestBuy. Here is why:
Dell - Underspec and over priced. You never get optimal matchups between CPU, RAM, GPU and HDD. They have an extremely good guided purchase system that doesn't allow options to be put together to make a great machine for a price range. Only their expensive models allow this.
Alienware - Over priced. Just that. You're better off going Falcon Northwest.
BestBuy - I've purchased from there before. Got some great deals on some items. But unless you can get that "uber" deal you are paying for brand and you wont get that optimal gaming mix.
Retailers and large stores that dont specialize in gaming tend to go with "performance" over gaming. This can lead to paying for a blu-ray drive or other novel addons that you may have no interest in being lumped together. Or worse yet, on lower budget systems, getting way underspecced GPUs.