Seriously, How can you be disappointed in SWTOR?!Serious Question..

MMOExposed

Seriously, How can you be disappointed in SWTOR?!Serious Question..

I just dont understand this. I know I brought this subject up before, but I continue to see massive amounts of disappointment and QQ on this forum and all over the net in regards to SWTOR.

But I dont understand how you can be disappointed in something like this unless you were Hyped.

But how can you get Hyped over something like this before release. (Excluding Leaks of course, for those that didnt follow leaks.)

Still this key word "HYPE" and "SWTOR", how do they go together?
 

Another key question,

WHAT WAS THERE TO BE HYPED ABOUT?

come on now. Common Sense here people. I used my common sense, which is why I wasnt hyped by this title. I dont understand how you allowed yourself to be hyped by this.

Were you hyped because it was a MMORPG that was being developed by "BIOWARE"?

well it is a MMORPG thats developed by Bioware. So dont see how they could mislead you there. Maybe next time, a bit of common sense would tell you, that a Developer's track record has nothing to do with their future success in the MMO market. (Bioware-Mythic: DAoC vs Bioware-Mythic: Warhammer Online,,,, hope you see the picture here. Just trying to simulate your common sense)

 

were you hyped because its the Starwars IP?

Well it is a MMORPG in the Starwars IP. if thats all that gets you hyped, why dont you hype yourself over Starwars Clone Wars? come on people,,, common sense here...

 

were you hyped about the Story focus?

well it has that to. all the cut scenes and options in action. Come now,,, this is a Single Player gameplay element, that was hammered into a MMORPG with Persistence. Use common sense here. you should have known what to expect here.. What ever choices you make, cant effect other players since they wouldnt be able to also make those choices. Which should have kicked in that this feature wouldnt be great at all... common sense (no offense to readers)

 

Were you hyped about the Commercials with the awesome CGI?

oh come on.... seriously? a CGI and you get hyped because of that in this generation of video gaming....? seriously? common sense here people.... where is the common sense?

 

What else is there to be hyped about? I dont get it.

 

Honestly, I blame you, the consumers of SWTOR for your own disappointment, not Bioware nor EA. its your fault. You got hyped up over a game like this, that had little info, and just about no gameplay reasons to be excited for. The developers even told you it was using the WoW model.

Totally 1555555% your own fault here.

In a way I could understand Warhammer hype and disappointment, and maybe even upcoming titles like GW2's overhyping.

But no way can you justify yourself getting overhyped to this game... its totally your fault. Stop blaming EA and Bioware.

they gave you what they said that they would. NOTHING MORE.

Everything else was in your own head, made by you and other fans on these social sites. again YOUR FAULT TO BE OVER HYPED BY SWTOR!!!!!

maybe you can learn a lesson from all of this..
now perhaps you can see the reason why some people come to these forums, to try and help tune down the hype of new upcoming MMORPGs that received major hype. Because the community tend to take hype and play Telephone game with it, too the point its heavily inflated. (Again look at SWTOR and how the Community here was overhyped about it, for little to no reason to be gameplay wise)

 

Sorry for the tone of my post. Not to insult you all,, I just would like more MMORPG consumers to really think next time, instead of letting themselves blindly get overhyped about these products. Be realistic about the next MMO you ever get excited about. It would do more good for you than harm...

artemisentr4

I enjoyed my first run through. It was what I expected and I had a lot o fun. What I became disappointed in was the lack of a reason to run flashpoints while leveling. Even just having them be a part of a chain with a great reward for completing the chain quest could have made a difference. But the big problem is the short leveling time and lack of options at end game. I still play, but not like I used to.

ZigZags

I feel like I was one of the few in the world who didn't buy into the hype. I knew SWTOR was going to be horrible from the get go and I played it for 3 months after release. I liked it for about 2 weeks until the thin coat of shine wore off.

 

There is 0 immersion in the game, it turned into a fleet sitting, Warzone queing bore fest just like Warhammer Online was. Which is why Im completely opposed to a instanced battleground format.

 

I played on a populated High server and there was few people on the planets, Ilum was broken, space combat was a joke and should have been left out all together until something worthy was developed.

 

It should be a crime what happened to SWTOR.

Arawnite

JUST WHERE HAS ALL THE COMMON SENSE GONE???

Isawa

SWTOR is one of very few MMORPGS I have played to end game, and I did that on both sides.

There is a solid argument on being disappointed in the character creation, and everyone just being a differant colored human - plus twi'leks with head attachments. There are all sorts of non-humans in game and even as companions. I won't argue this point further, but I could write a short paper on it

Ilaya

Starting SWTOR and having the Story + Crafting was just AWESOME. Honestly. Story wise it was the BEST i've EVER played sins i started Onlinegaming. Also to have a Twink/Alt was nice. But after a while, you reach the so called "Endcontent". Now....hmm...let's say it this way; I like Dungeons/Instances/Raids. But not on a daily base and not to be forced to go there because of the Items. I simply can't have that.

 

Even more important was ofc my Guild. We love to make PvP. Not Hardcore, but by far more than a casual would do. Back then at release we've been told "Big / Massiv Open Pvp on Illum". And we all went "Yeeeeah", wanted to have (kind of) DaoC within the Star Wars Universe. And what have we got? Forced by them to get special PvP Gear, endless Grind within the Battlefields/Arenas instead of open PvP. Illum was just crap. So we as Guild, nearly 30 ppl just canceld our Accounts. Many of us feld the same like i do (in detail).

 

So....what to add? I think everyone has his own point of view. Afterwards, having seen what comes to release very soon, i would like to have a Game with the Story (Video Sequences, deepness and so forth) of SWTOR, a by far stressless Gaming like GW 2 and also the WvWvW like GW2, in a Setting of TSW. Eventually with the freeness in regards to crafting as SWG had it or "The Repop" will have it.

 

These are my reasons. I found it sad that SWTOR made so many mistakes and that it got beaten like Hell from the whole Internet because, honestly, it did not reserved it. The most parts are fine, but not as a "whole" if u get what i mean.

 

*ps; sry for grammar mistakes, im an old not native english speaking fart but i'll guess the sense will become visible

Xthos

I don't know that you have to be hyped to be disappointed in something....I mean if you order a burger somewhere, and it wasn't that good...Can you be disappointed?  Fries no good/cold, were you HYPED for hot fries?!

 

I thought it was gonna ok at best, suck at worst, if something being ok is hype, we need a new word for it.  I bought it to play with friends, since I have a job, make good money, and it wasn't gonna bother me if it sucked...

 

I got my moneys worth, time wise, wasn't worth paying a sub for, and even if it was free to play with no stipulations, I wouldn't of played it any longer than my free month that I did....As a game it was ok, as a MMO, not so much.

 

So yeah it was a mmo disappointment, from the stand point of it being a game I could play and stay subbed to, didn't think it would be that anyway, but it still is a disappointment as a MMO for me.

 

The 4th pillar, the stories were 95% the same (being generous), if you were light or dark for the class I played, as my wife played light, and I played dark...I wouldn't say I was hyped for this either, because I generally dislike quest rails and video/cut scenes if I am forced to quest (aka most modern mmos)...So if something I dislike and wasn't looking forward to anyway can be hyped and provide disappointment...I guess so?

 

I don't troll the TOR forum though, this just popped up on the top threads, so I clicked, and decided I would waste a couple minutes of my life to explain the phenomenon to you again, so you could read and comprehend what you want, take it out of context, imo, and we both waste out time....enjoy!

Mike-McQueen

Just another themepark. Not even like six flags more like a local carnival.

Baitness

Big difference between hype and false advertising.  This was an example of the latter.  Terrible blurry graphics combined with never seeing other players in this "mmorpg" spelled a quick end to my sub.

 

Edit:  Just wanted to remind everyone that the game was advertised with hi res textures and polished shadows, not the slop we got.

Bardus

Haha, took me a bit to figure out what the hell you posted but think I caught on.

Some people...no a lot of people just fell for the marketing hype machine. All they saw was Star Wars, Bioware and what must be the game to end all games according to that combination.

What people plugged there ears about is how Lucas is intentionally dumbing down the franchise to hook younger generations. People also didn't realize Bioware is not Bioware any longer. The Bioware we all fell in love with is dead and gone when EA bought them out. People that did know about the buyout apparently don't follow news about EA or they would see lawsuit after lawsuit about the companies shenanigans and didn't realize how destructive EA is to their own company.

What EA did do very well was hyping the game. Can't deign them that accomplishment.

I too hope people learned their lesson with this game but somehow I doubt it. They will keep letting themselves be mindless sheep and companies will continue to bank on that and we will continue to get crap games from big IPs for fast profits.

Hurvart

The implementation of everything was bad. You need to level a character to max level to recognize that. A company can tell you the game will have feature X. They will tell you it will be fun. But when you play the game you will perhaps not like it. Because after playing for a mounth feature X starts to feel very boring. And you understand that long term that feature was a bad idea. It is fun the first weeks. But in a MMORPG intended to be your virtual home for years it is a big mistake...

It was Biowares first MMORPG and they had no idea what makes MMO players want to play a game long term.

OneEyeRed

Originally posted by Arawnite

JUST WHERE HAS ALL THE COMMON SENSE GONE???

Hear hear, I second that!

Chrisbox

I wanted SWTOR to be huge, I really did.  They pulled off story and immersion it was great, they gave what they promised.  But every other aspect of the MMO was all too similar to WoW, the end game grind, etc.  By all means its not a TERRIBLE game, but they need to rethink their formula if they want it to stand out in any other aspect besides the story. 

rojoArcueid

i never got disappointed by swtor... just like another poster said. Before Swtor launched we already new it was a WoW clone with a star wars theme. The developers said a long time before launch that the gameplay or something (cant remember what was it) was similar to WoW and thats why i bought it. But the problem was they delivered an inferior product to what they copied.

So no, im not disappointed, and if it goes F2P ill go back and play everytime... i just wont pay a sub for it

Quicksand

I played it at launch, then stopped after the first month, but resubbed last month and have been having alot of fun again. I don't understand what it is people complain about, but that's them I guess.

FrodoFragins

I was disappointed because I loved the open beta and leveling to the cap on release.  It was endgame, poor pvp, no grouping tools and leveling alts through 80% of the same quests that I found disappointing.  It had the best leveling experience I've ever exerienced but that's it.  If it was B2P I wouldn't have even blinked.  The sub fee just seemed out of place given the unfinished nature of the release.

 

I wasn't even planning on buying it, and so the hype was meaningless to me.

azmundai

if you are a star wars fan, or an mmo fan, how the hell can you not be dissapointed in a company spending 80 bagillion dollars and releasing another steaming pile of linear crap?

serious question .. and if you say "im loving the story my third time through" .. there are Danielle Steele books that would be less painful.

It was a great single player game. It was a horrible mmo. As both a Star Wars fan, and an MMO fan I am not just dissapointed, I am appauled. Games like this belong on Xbox. Where is the MMO? It's gone, slashed down to single player games with chat boxes and just enough token group content to be called an MMO.

Now excuse me, I just vometed in my mouth a little.

Magnetia

Or maybe developers should makes games which have features which are engaging and interesting instead of copying WoW directly and slapping on story mode.

Cromica

I expected a fun mmo, instead I got a mediocre story based online rpg

Comaf

Originally posted by MMOExposed

Seriously, How can you be disappointed in SWTOR?!Serious Question..

I just dont understand this. I know I brought this subject up before, but I continue to see massive amounts of disappointment and QQ on this forum and all over the net in regards to SWTOR.

But I dont understand how you can be disappointed in something like this unless you were Hyped.

But how can you get Hyped over something like this before release. (Excluding Leaks of course, for those that didnt follow leaks.)

Still this key word "HYPE" and "SWTOR", how do they go together?
 

Another key question,

WHAT WAS THERE TO BE HYPED ABOUT?

come on now. Common Sense here people. I used my common sense, which is why I wasnt hyped by this title. I dont understand how you allowed yourself to be hyped by this.

Were you hyped because it was a MMORPG that was being developed by "BIOWARE"?

well it is a MMORPG thats developed by Bioware. So dont see how they could mislead you there. Maybe next time, a bit of common sense would tell you, that a Developer's track record has nothing to do with their future success in the MMO market. (Bioware-Mythic: DAoC vs Bioware-Mythic: Warhammer Online,,,, hope you see the picture here. Just trying to simulate your common sense)

 

were you hyped because its the Starwars IP?

Well it is a MMORPG in the Starwars IP. if thats all that gets you hyped, why dont you hype yourself over Starwars Clone Wars? come on people,,, common sense here...

 

were you hyped about the Story focus?

well it has that to. all the cut scenes and options in action. Come now,,, this is a Single Player gameplay element, that was hammered into a MMORPG with Persistence. Use common sense here. you should have known what to expect here.. What ever choices you make, cant effect other players since they wouldnt be able to also make those choices. Which should have kicked in that this feature wouldnt be great at all... common sense (no offense to readers)

 

Were you hyped about the Commercials with the awesome CGI?

oh come on.... seriously? a CGI and you get hyped because of that in this generation of video gaming....? seriously? common sense here people.... where is the common sense?

 

What else is there to be hyped about? I dont get it.

 

Honestly, I blame you, the consumers of SWTOR for your own disappointment, not Bioware nor EA. its your fault. You got hyped up over a game like this, that had little info, and just about no gameplay reasons to be excited for. The developers even told you it was using the WoW model.

Totally 1555555% your own fault here.

In a way I could understand Warhammer hype and disappointment, and maybe even upcoming titles like GW2's overhyping.

But no way can you justify yourself getting overhyped to this game... its totally your fault. Stop blaming EA and Bioware.

they gave you what they said that they would. NOTHING MORE.

Everything else was in your own head, made by you and other fans on these social sites. again YOUR FAULT TO BE OVER HYPED BY SWTOR!!!!!

maybe you can learn a lesson from all of this..
now perhaps you can see the reason why some people come to these forums, to try and help tune down the hype of new upcoming MMORPGs that received major hype. Because the community tend to take hype and play Telephone game with it, too the point its heavily inflated. (Again look at SWTOR and how the Community here was overhyped about it, for little to no reason to be gameplay wise)

 

Sorry for the tone of my post. Not to insult you all,, I just would like more MMORPG consumers to really think next time, instead of letting themselves blindly get overhyped about these products. Be realistic about the next MMO you ever get excited about. It would do more good for you than harm...

I wanted an mmoRPG (role playing game), not an mmoVG (video game).  I'm jaded though since I come from a 3 realm mmoRPG with 44 classes and 24 races across three uniquely different factions.  Hence why I'm waiting on Elder Scrolls Online and still play Dark Age of Camelot lol.

MMOExposed

Originally posted by Cromica

I expected a fun mmo, instead I got a mediocre story based online rpg

@Red, honestly, (being realistic with you and otheres) but that is YOUR FAULT. sorry for tone, but it truly is your fault.

There was nothing gameplay wise to be excited about, for you to expect a Fun MMO if you arent into the stuff that is there.

 

The game had no gameplay hype. THis is what I want to point out as well. It may have IP hype, CGI hype, Cut Scene hype, whatever,,, but it didnt have gameplay hype.

you expectations were all in your head. Which is your own fault. Not EA/Bioware.

Kyleran

Originally posted by Valentina

Im not disappointed in SW:TOR, but you're asking a community of trolls why they dont like something, so this is totally a flame bait topic unfortunately.

Congrats for writing a troll response to this thread and joining us on the "darkside" of the forums. See, it wasn't hard that hard now, was it?   

But step aside now and let me show you how it's really done.

I never bought into the hype, OP is correct, Bioward told us they were building a WOW centric MMO and they delivered that is spades.

I haven't been impressed with a Bioware title since the 90's, so again, nothing to be excited about when they decided to create their 1st MMORPG, and their lack of experience definitely came through.

Star Wars IP?  Pfft..talk about something that is so overused they could bury it in the ground and shovel dirt on it. Star Wars is so 1970's after all.

So sure, there was nothing to be hyped about, but plenty to be disappointed with in the final product.  Sure, they did a good job with the story telling, unless of course you are the sort of person who believes MMORPG's are best when it's the players who make the stories, not the developers.

Sure, we all should have known better, but people always hope for the best, even while being given the worst that Developers have to offer.

 

 

 

DaezAster

Only star wars game I give any dap was X-wing vs and even that game was mediocre. All star wars games have always kind of sucked but people really do love them some star wars and they pulled the old cg bait and switch so......

Corehaven

OP you are right.  All over the net there is a lot of Swtor negativity.  And so very many people have said why they were dissapointed.  That's been going on for many long months. 

 

If all those posts, and all those disappointment threads didnt do it for you, then I seriously doubt you will get an answer that satifies you in this thread. 

 

Anyways if you are having fun with Swtor I'm happy for ya.  Have fun with it. 

Trionicus

Originally posted by azmundai

if you are a star wars fan, or an mmo fan, how the hell can you not be dissapointed in a company spending 80 bagillion dollars and releasing another steaming pile of linear crap?

serious question .. and if you say "im loving the story my third time through" .. there are Danielle Steele books that would be less painful.

It was a great single player game. It was a horrible mmo. As both a Star Wars fan, and an MMO fan I am not just dissapointed, I am appauled. Games like this belong on Xbox. Where is the MMO? It's gone, slashed down to single player games with chat boxes and just enough token group content to be called an MMO.

Now excuse me, I just vometed in my mouth a little.

add a few more 0's on your bagillion lol.

 

@OP Just as someone can NOT be disappoiinted in something, someone CAN be, especially for the same reasons you mentioned people shouldn't be. Maybe this was a rhetorical post on your part?

Actually I could probably prove my point easily if a group of people were willing to waste their time. Get 10 people to do an IQ test, if anyone scores over 130, ask them if they like swtor as an MMO.

Incase the example is lost on some, the assumption is that fairly intelligent people will not like swtor. However, sometimes things are just personal preference, not really a science.

rguilbert

Originally posted by MMOExposed

Seriously, How can you be disappointed in SWTOR?!Serious Question..

I just dont understand this. I know I brought this subject up before, but I continue to see massive amounts of disappointment and QQ on this forum and all over the net in regards to SWTOR.

But I dont understand how you can be disappointed in something like this unless you were Hyped.

But how can you get Hyped over something like this before release. (Excluding Leaks of course, for those that didnt follow leaks.)

Still this key word "HYPE" and "SWTOR", how do they go together?
 

Another key question,

WHAT WAS THERE TO BE HYPED ABOUT?

come on now. Common Sense here people. I used my common sense, which is why I wasnt hyped by this title. I dont understand how you allowed yourself to be hyped by this.

Were you hyped because it was a MMORPG that was being developed by "BIOWARE"?

well it is a MMORPG thats developed by Bioware. So dont see how they could mislead you there. Maybe next time, a bit of common sense would tell you, that a Developer's track record has nothing to do with their future success in the MMO market. (Bioware-Mythic: DAoC vs Bioware-Mythic: Warhammer Online,,,, hope you see the picture here. Just trying to simulate your common sense)

 

were you hyped because its the Starwars IP?

Well it is a MMORPG in the Starwars IP. if thats all that gets you hyped, why dont you hype yourself over Starwars Clone Wars? come on people,,, common sense here...

 

were you hyped about the Story focus?

well it has that to. all the cut scenes and options in action. Come now,,, this is a Single Player gameplay element, that was hammered into a MMORPG with Persistence. Use common sense here. you should have known what to expect here.. What ever choices you make, cant effect other players since they wouldnt be able to also make those choices. Which should have kicked in that this feature wouldnt be great at all... common sense (no offense to readers)

 

Were you hyped about the Commercials with the awesome CGI?

oh come on.... seriously? a CGI and you get hyped because of that in this generation of video gaming....? seriously? common sense here people.... where is the common sense?

 

What else is there to be hyped about? I dont get it.

 

Honestly, I blame you, the consumers of SWTOR for your own disappointment, not Bioware nor EA. its your fault. You got hyped up over a game like this, that had little info, and just about no gameplay reasons to be excited for. The developers even told you it was using the WoW model.

Totally 1555555% your own fault here.

In a way I could understand Warhammer hype and disappointment, and maybe even upcoming titles like GW2's overhyping.

But no way can you justify yourself getting overhyped to this game... its totally your fault. Stop blaming EA and Bioware.

they gave you what they said that they would. NOTHING MORE.

Everything else was in your own head, made by you and other fans on these social sites. again YOUR FAULT TO BE OVER HYPED BY SWTOR!!!!!

maybe you can learn a lesson from all of this..
now perhaps you can see the reason why some people come to these forums, to try and help tune down the hype of new upcoming MMORPGs that received major hype. Because the community tend to take hype and play Telephone game with it, too the point its heavily inflated. (Again look at SWTOR and how the Community here was overhyped about it, for little to no reason to be gameplay wise)

 

Sorry for the tone of my post. Not to insult you all,, I just would like more MMORPG consumers to really think next time, instead of letting themselves blindly get overhyped about these products. Be realistic about the next MMO you ever get excited about. It would do more good for you than harm...

When I read the title of your post, I thought it might be interesting.  The more I thought about it, the more excited I got.  It seemed like it might be the kind of post that would be well thought out, discussion provoking, and more.  I was pumped when I clicked on it. 

Now, after reading it, I feel let down.  I'm not sure why I thought there might be more to it than there was, but now I'm incredibly disappointed.  There really wasn't much to it...in fact, most other posts are much better. 

I guess it's my own fault though.  I shouldn't get my hopes up that way.  Oh well.