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So the free to play untill level 15 starts in 2 days. Anyone else planning on playing afew classes up to level 15? While I won't pay a sub for the game as it stands now, I don't mind playing it for free! And then there is always a hope (although they never did it with Warhammer Online) that the game might do a full F2p switch over in the future, so having afew characters already being 15 levels in would be a benefit.
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Meh~ I'll just wait for it to go F2P. But seeing that it's EA, I'll be playing the F2P version of The Elder Scrolls Online, before SW:TOR becomes F2P.
I done the F2P to level 15 already with the buddy trial. I had 7 days to try the game, got 2 characters to level 15 within 4 days. That's 30 levels in 4 days without playing very hard at all. I didn't even bother with the remaining 3 days.
If EA wants to do any good with this then they need to not charge for the download and only charge for the monthly fee. Even then though everyone can easily have the game cleared within the 1st month.
I don't think I will play it. I tried the beta and I was seriously unimpressed, don't see how this time around it will be any different. From all the boring MMOs, SWTOR is the king of them all.
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Is it worth the hassle of downloading and installing the game to play the game to level 15, on 2 or even more toons? If you can do that in a few days easily, then what's the point of getting into a game that will leave you disappointed when you buy it and reach cap?
I would rather them have a lifetime sub option, even if it cost $200 I would buy it.
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For a 30+GB download its not close to worth it. This game is and will remain an absolute disaster I am afraid. However, download itfor yourself and form your own opinion. Who knows, you may love it.
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Agreed, Its a single player game. It would be worth the box price except that there are bound to be better single player games out there.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
Actually, if you think of it as a single player game, you can get a lot out of it than other typical single player boxed games. My first character took me over 100 hours of game time to get to max level.
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SW:TOR may not be your cup of tea, but it is not a single player game. To suggest it is a single player game means you must apply the same logic to virtual every other modern MMO on the market today.
Other MMOs are fully multiplayer. The space part of SWTOR is not multiplayer, and purely single player
The design of the game is like a single player game, where you go from the starting point / planet to the end point / planet without any real need to return to another planet. Other MMOs get you going all over the place, and returning to places you have been before.
The story based quests are good but only beneficial to yourself or a like minded player which is rare. You may want to asorb the story but others may want to space bar it. Also if you team up the dialogue is only set up for you (and your companion) and not a group of additional player(s)
The way the servers are set up makes it so that people are spread all over the place, and you barely see any one online. STO has far fewer players yet you see more people online.
SWTOR is a single player with multiplayer options, like Lego Complete Star Wars or Mass Effect 3, and Red Dead Redemption is more of a MMO than SWTOR is.
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Good point made about the size of the client (30gb) not being worth the download. That's probably going to be up to the person who wants to download the game and try it to see if it's worth their time, net usage and harddrive space.
When I did play this game, I didn't uninstall it from my pc as I'm not too "gun-ho" when it comes to removing games I don't initially like but I consider have potential to eventually get better. I still have LOTRO installed and I regularly keep it & SWTOR patched up even though I don't currently play them. But who knows, the devs might eventually add some feature to make me want to play them again, at least for awhile. SWTOR f2p to level 15 is one such feature I plan to try out.
Will also be interesting to see how EA sets up this feature, will my other characters who are higher than 15 already be locked out, or will that entire account be locked out and I'll be forced to play the f2p till 15 characters on a "new" account? What if i decided to resub because I liked the level 15 bounty hunter I made and want to level it more, will I be forced to buy another full game key just to start leveling up on that account or will the system know I already have a full game account? I hope it isnt some really bad system that they will implement with this. Oh well, should find out tomorrow!
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LOTRO has cinematics too, in the main storylines, and the game is more open world, and does not feel confined so much. The map is massive. AT least Turbine have not given up on the game despite not having WOW numbers. They maintain it virtually weekly, and still churn out expansions almost annually now, Rise of Isengard last year, Riders of Rohan this year. They have virtually constant events going on, when one ends another begins.
Exploring SWTOR is such a pain - you have to mainly play through the game to get places.. In LOTRO it is a complete pleasure, and do not have to complete parts of the game to get to most places, but chances of survival are slim!
LOTRO is the best example of how a theme park MMO should be.
SWTORs cinematics are good to a certain extent, but when you go level up other characters and end up doing 90% same quest, it just gets tedious getting the cinematics to load and going through the same dialogue options. With text based games when levvling more alts you can zoom through them faster.
Cinematics and dialogue options are best suited to single player games like Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Kingdoms of Amalur etc They just get in a the way a bit much in MMOs, and when you see other players in a cut scene, they are zoned out like being in the Matrix. What they see happening, you do not. It just seems stupid to me in a MMO.
What other options is there other than questing that is not PVP that you do? All I see in SWTOR is nothing but questing, flashpoints are just another quest based missions but group orientated. In LOTRO you have more meangingful crafting, exploring the worlds, doing limited time events, fishing, kitting out your house etc In STO you have space, easily get into mass PVE battles with other players aginst enemy NPCs, kit out your ship you and add npcs, send Duty Officers on missions, constant hourly events, plus almost each weekend there is some kind of new / rerun content or bonus to get
F2P games seems to get more attention than P2P games nowadays, especially LA MMOs which just seem to stop doing much with the game when they do not get WOW like subs/players
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Other MMOs are fully multiplayer. The space part of SWTOR is not multiplayer, and purely single player
The design of the game is like a single player game, where you go from the starting point / planet to the end point / planet without any real need to return to another planet. Other MMOs get you going all over the place, and returning to places you have been before.
Not true. I used to go back to planets all the time to do heroics and collect resources. In the cases of Nar Shadar and Dromund Kaas it would sometimes be to use the auction house. You also have dailies that are on Ilum, Belsavis and Voss. Plus Tattoine has the area for open PVP.
The story based quests are good but only beneficial to yourself or a like minded player which is rare. You may want to asorb the story but others may want to space bar it. Also if you team up the dialogue is only set up for you (and your companion) and not a group of additional player(s)
Again not true. If you join a group the dialogue wheel is randomized. Say it's a group of four, a set of numbers is under your avatars and there is no telling who will role the highest number. It's works similiar to the old role playing games. Sometimes I'd go and sometimes the other guy goes. It's completely left to chance.
Edit: if you are referring to the class quests, yes no one else can enter that dialogue wheel. But with the massive amount of world quests, side quests, operations and flashpoints, so what?
The way the servers are set up makes it so that people are spread all over the place, and you barely see any one online. STO has far fewer players yet you see more people online.
Yeah well STO has at best 50k players in it and they're all on one server. I agree that TOR should have limited the number of planets and launched with the type of servers they have now. They also shouldn't have done the fleets and had the social hubs on the homeworlds. That was definetly a mistake in design.
SWTOR is a single player with multiplayer options, like Lego Complete Star Wars or Mass Effect 3, and Red Dead Redemption is more of a MMO than SWTOR is.
To each his own. I had far more fun in the six months I played the game than I ever got in another MMORPG. I loved the fact that I could level solo, grouped, by space or PVP. If I got tired of questing, I had other options, which is not the case with a lot of MMOs. Right now I'm trying LOTRO and I'm already getting bored with it. After playing a game that had cinematics and dialogue choices it's hard to go back to the old boring quest text even if the game is free-to-play.
This post was made (by me) to discuss SWTOR going free to play up untill level 15. Several posts are trying to take this off topic with peoples opinions of why SWTOR isnt successful or comparing it to other games. Please try to just keep it on topic about the new f2p lvl15. Thanks!
From a former player ......Starwars is great fun if you think of it as a co-op mmo .....It is never going to be what everyone thought it was going to be . I Wouldnt be suprised if Ea doesn't pull the plug soon ....It hasn't even come close to the money if spent making the game from what I have read. Shut it down redesign the grahics engine and some other key things and re-introduce it in a Year ..just one mans opinion.
As some1 who bought 2 $150.00 boxes that are now drawing a bunch of dust on a shelf, wife and I both unsubed about as soon as we got 1 toon each to 50 and found there was almost nothing to keep us playing, I doubt that either one of us will be taking advantage of (a new game that is 6 months out of the starting gate) going partialy F2P. Call it a free trial, or not.
In fact, without an NGE of sorts, a total re-design of the game, a fireing of the top developers associated with that mess, I doubt we'd take advantage of a complete F2P, either. (Imagine that, a Star Wars game that I believe would benefit from a NGE, woulda never thunk it)
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If we are talking up to level 15, then most of my previous comments are more apt, particualrly being able to explore the game. In LOTRO you can go exploring before you hit 15, but in SWTOR you can not get far until you get your ship, which is around level 16.
I wonder if you will be able to do missions still once you hit 15 and progress through the game, getting your ship etc, with the help of a level 50, but just stay stuck at level 15?
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Yeah, sorry about that. I just get tired of seeing the same misinformation being spread over and over again. But you're right, there are more than enough threads out there for people to state why they don't like the game or what games are better.
Far as the OP, I think it's a good idea that allows people to sample the game before they commit. Your experience will still vary as some classes are more fun to roll than others. My favorites were the bounty hunter, sith warrior and sith agent. My least favorite was the Sith Inquisitor after chapter 1.
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Yeah, even though the maintenance is currently on, my "play" button is now highlighted as if i had an active sub to the game, which i don't. Probably means you can make characters and play them to 15 but any other characters over that on the account are locked. Atleast that wont make things messy for people who do decide to resub, not having to move characters around different accounts etc...
I will see how it goes when I can log in again and will post any restrictions etc.. I might find.