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david361107
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I played Beta 3 and 4 and had a blast so went out and purchased this game. If you are on the fense and want some idea about how good this game is to some people, not everyone will like it or course. But look at some of the post here on MMORPG and it should tell you that Funcom has shook things up in the MMO world. Peeps on this site can be very harsh to a new MMO but most of the post here have been positive about this game. I've bought every mmo that has came out and then watch and also posted some harsh things myself about some of these games. I believe TSW will be around for a long time and with the announcement of updates every month or so I'm pumped up about this. Like i said, it's not for everyone but if you believe like i did that I was just getting tired of MMO's then try this one out and see if you don't actually get excited again.
mmorpg.com peeps are very honest and it it's a crap game you'll know it fast here. TSW has not got blasted by this site so that says a lot.
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Honestly if they're on the fence I would suggest they wait for a free trial offer. I'm sure there will be one soon. Best to see for themselves and frankly by then things can only get better as bugs get fixed and other updates happen before then.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
What a helpful post!! I will definitly go buy the game now that I've read it.
Well I was on the fence after the first beta weekend I played in but the bwe before launch was much better. A lot of polish and much smoother experience. Now Im well into the game, transylvania and it is a really good.
If they are on the fence I suggest they wait till it goes f2p. They already said its going to happen...
Wut? Sources please.
We're glad you like the game, but not everyone here thinks TSW is the greatest game ever made.......
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/06/secret-worlds-tornquist-on-f2p-single-player-games/
" Five years from now, ten years from now, will Secret World be free-to-play? I’m sure of it. "
Im pretty sure it wont take 5 years to go f2p. As a matter of fact their cash shop is a direct result of knowing they will be f2p at some point. How things are going in the industry and the more competition they get the faster that will be.
I dont see where the OP said its the greatest game ever made.
I am primarily a sandbox gamer and I think TSW is a positive thing for the themepark genre. Although in perspective making a better themepark than the facerollers out there now is not very hard just because of the level of crapfullness that is themeparks these days.
It is not the greatest game ever made tetris probably is but TSW works with not many issues. The RPG element has some brilliance.
Uh yeah, while I think they should wait for a free trial I wouldn't wait that long.
Lol
They will definitely go f2p at some point and probably in less than five years but it won't be any time remotely soon.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
IDK, heavy competition is just around the corner. Sure none of the competion has the same setting as TSW, but that means only folks who are in it for the niche will stay. All who are just in it for the ride will probably leave since competition is f2p.
Depends really.
I know I personally plan on playing GW2 and TSW. A lot really is dependant on FC and how they maintain the game and do with updates adding additional content imo. That and what they have in play or store to try and build a community within in the game.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Source? Have you considered that P2P switch to F2P to ad the cash shop, but TSW, already having it, doesn't need to go F2P?
Rift is still P2P when everybody said it won't last more than 6 months. Why? Constant content updates. Which Funcom just announced they'll do. yes, i know they may not deliever.
However, with the mandtory sub fee cash and the money from the CS, why go F2P if they keep profitable with the model?
Wow... LOL. Way to take that and run with it. Talk about taking things out of context.
Don't forget... although the "heavy competition" and we all know what you're talking about is not a F2P game. It's a B2P game. You will still need to put out $50-60 to try it. And pay for xpac's every year, or two a year. If TSW can keep the free content coming without spamming xpacs, they will do quite well in my opinion.
How is it out of context?
It could, Rift like another poster said has done it. But the pressure is not just GW2, its PS2, Neverwinter and probably even more games to come out f2p out of the get go. Not to mention any of the current ones falling like TOR or Tera. It puts a lot of preassure on them to move, because frankly its a business and even though you and others might hold multiple subs and play multiple games the mayority wont.
Well a lot of how badly P2 and GW2 will affect other p2p games is really dependant on how many are playing their game "just because".
What I mean by that is gamers that really aren't into their mmo right now but it is something to keep them busy or nothing else really interests them so they keep playing their current mmo even though in reality they really aren't enjoying it anymore. Which is certainly a significant group. So when those games come out really depends on how many of those there are. Reason I say this is because GW2 has no sub many that did also enjoy their p2p game will simply play both or least resub to their other mmo after they go hard at it with GW2 for a bit.
I think it may put a hurting on some other games more than TSW. Not to say TSW will be immune to it. Aion, SWTOR, and TERA could be in some serious trouble though especially with GW2. Possibly Rift but hard to gauge. They have an expansion coming out soon as well so short term they may get plowed but when their expansion comes out they may get a lot to come back least to test it out.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
So I don't understand how you think it might cause serious trouble to those games but not TSW?
Because of how new the game is and they have different themepark offerings to a degree to potentially keep one interested in both. More simply because it just came out. Will be a few months before the nuance dies off.
...and I did say it would be affected. Just not to the degree I believe those other games will.
Not like I'm trying to say TSW is some special snowflake.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
My argument wasn't really in the now, but in the coming months. I think it will be affected by cheaper games just as much as the others you mentioned.
Thanks for all the response on this subject. For all of you that are saying that TSW will go F2P soon I have to say you are really wrong. I see the market his way, one is WOW, 10 million plus subs on a P2P old game. Other AAA games, Eve, Rift and TSW will never be F2P anytime soon so I'm sorry to disappoint those who want it to be free. Plus I also play World of Tanks and it's free to play....my ass. I've dropped more in that game over the past couple of months than anything. You are going to have some F2P and some P2P and the market will work itself out that way. But here on MMORPG any post about a new game you always have someone saying, "it will be F2P in a month or two" it's in every post just about when talking about a new game.
To think that all he means is GW2 is absurd. Not mentioning all the AA F2P and B2P MMOs coming out in the next 6 months (Knight Age, Firefall are just two, Firefall looking pretty innovative, but you never know). There is Neverwinter F2P....The Elder Scrolls online P2P....Defiance P2P....FF XIV 2.0 P2P...Lineage Eternal F2P (a HUGE lurker, imo, could be really great if done with Lineage and 2 in mind)....PS2 F2P...
All of these are slated for 6-9 months until release. TSW has VERY heavy competition coming up in many different titles. and there are fantasy and non-fantasy in there. IMO, PS2, Firefall, and Defiance are a bigger competition to TSW than GW2 is.
Because you didn't post the entire reply which makes it out of context.
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RPS: Currently your business model is subscription-based. In light of how many games are going free-to-play right now, why did you decide to go subscription-based with Secret World?
Tornquist: No triple-A, big MMO has launched yet with a free-to-play model. I know that Guild Wars 2 is coming up and is free-to-play, but they’re also launching with a item store and I’m not exactly sure what they’ll be selling there. Our item store is cosmetic only – things that are nice, but not fundamental to gameplay. We wanted to go subscription-based because we think that players are happier paying a steady monthly fee to get new content, to get the service, to get all the benefits of a game that has a growing, living world, than to keep charging them for little things.
That’s important to us. The subscription fee and our business model supports a big, ongoing team. We have content plans for a very long time. We have content that’s going to be coming on a regular, ongoing basis. We have content that’s going to come out pretty soon. It is the only business model that makes sense in terms of giving players this living, breathing world and this constantly upgraded, expanded experience.
Whether or not that’s the business model that’s going to be around in five years, I can’t say. But it wasn’t right for us to come out and be a free-to-play game, because then we would have to find other ways to support the ongoing content. Whether it would be DLC and charging people for that, or an item store and charging people for that, [I can't say]. At any rate, people are going to have to pay more in order to support the ongoing development. I think that at least for me and at least for traditional MMO players, a subscription fee is something they understand. If you subscribe to this game, we’re going to provide you with entertainment – with an experience.
But I mean of course [having Conan go free-to-play] has taught us a lot. Five years from now, ten years from now, will Secret World be free-to-play? I’m sure of it. But that’s a long time. For the time being, we’re committed to this business model, and as long as people are willing to pay us in order to provide them with expanded content and ongoing content, we’ll keep that business model.
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As long as people want to pay them to provide the expanded/ongoing/monthly content they're going to keep the current business model. It doesn't mean that they plan to go F2P in 5 years if the game is still widly successful.
I was talking more about GW2 and PS2. But I know people like to guess without knowing