Though honestly TSW is far better than SWTOR in almost all aspects.
I'd give TSW a 8 at most, but a 7?
Something seems a bit iffy lol.
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P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I don't think many from this site would ever call me a Funcom fan but, the setting deserves kudos as well as the artwork and i liked the sound. I also like concept behind the skilltree. I did not care for the combat at all and the animations just ruined it or I would be playing it. Almost bought it myself just to play for a couple of weeks as a filler game
Don't care about the score of an "official review" but isn't it a bit early to talk about longevity when the game has been out for a few weeks with no content updates/expansions which are supposed to address the longevity? Sure there are always a few outliers who consume all content of any game in record time which has no correlation to the experience of the average/median gamer.
I don't think many from this site would ever call me a Funcom fan but, the setting deserves kudos as well as the artwork and i liked the sound. I also like concept behind the skilltree. I did not care for the combat at all and the animations just ruined it or I would be playing it. Almost bought it myself just to play for a couple of weeks as a filler game
If it is even being considered as a "filler game" in the MMO genre it should be a max score of 5/10.
If it is even being considered as a "filler game" in the MMO genre it should be a max score of 5/10.
MMO games are not SUPPOSED to be "filler games."
Back from summer vacation away from mmorpg.com and full of new energy so I'll grab this: Considered by whom exactly? Filler game for what? Why would that warrant 5/10?
I needed a comparison point for evaluating this review. A number in a vacuum is meaningless. So i went back and looked at what score IGN gave SWTOR.
Because - for better or worse - TSW is basically the same game as TOR, just with better story, better immersion, better acting and better character development system. But as a whole, it has the same issues in terms of longevity, in terms of being "not MMO-ey enough", etc.
So i looked. And i found that IGN gave to 9/10. IGN gave TOR 9.5 on "lasting appeal" and it gave TSW a 6.0. Considering the games are both equal (equally bad if you like).. it found this to be quite ironic. They gave TOR 10/10 on sound... now this may be personal preference, but from Voice acting, to the amazing music, the thoroughly creepy sound effects, TSW has TOR beat on every single aspect of "sound".
So i tried to find a baseline for comparison and I coudln't. If a 9.0 game is like TOR and a 7.0 game is like TSW, i'd prefer that all future game try to score lower. Becase if TOR is the epitome of MMOs (with a 9/10) score, then i don't want to play MMOs anymore.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall Currently Playing: ESO
If it is even being considered as a "filler game" in the MMO genre it should be a max score of 5/10.
MMO games are not SUPPOSED to be "filler games."
You're missing his point.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I needed a comparison point for evaluating this review. A number in a vacuum is meaningless. So i went back and looked at what score IGN gave SWTOR.
Because - for better or worse - TSW is basically the same game as TOR, just with better story, better immersion, better acting and better character development system. But as a whole, it has the same issues in terms of longevity, in terms of being "not MMO-ey enough", etc.
So i looked. And i found that IGN gave to 9/10. IGN gave TOR 9.5 on "lasting appeal" and it gave TSW a 6.0. Considering the games are both equal (equally bad if you like).. it found this to be quite ironic. They gave TOR 10/10 on sound... now this may be personal preference, but from Voice acting, to the amazing music, the thoroughly creepy sound effects, TSW has TOR beat on every single aspect of "sound".
So i tried to find a baseline for comparison and I coudln't. If a 9.0 game is like TOR and a 7.0 game is like TSW, i'd prefer that all future game try to score lower. Becase if TOR is the epitome of MMOs (with a 9/10) score, then i don't want to play MMOs anymore.
Yeah...but it was two different reviewers. So not surprising they would gauge things differently. Well that and the fact clearly the SWTOR reviewer was either completely stoned or well...completely stoned.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Sorry, but any game which makes me log off in frustration because I got 3 quests in a row which couldn't be completed due to bugs really doesn't deserve more than a 7.
Once the bugs are sorted out I'd give the game an 8 - 8.5 easily. That rating does not include PvP though, because I have absolutely no interest in it.
I don't think many from this site would ever call me a Funcom fan but, the setting deserves kudos as well as the artwork and i liked the sound. I also like concept behind the skilltree. I did not care for the combat at all and the animations just ruined it or I would be playing it. Almost bought it myself just to play for a couple of weeks as a filler game
If it is even being considered as a "filler game" in the MMO genre it should be a max score of 5/10.
MMO games are not SUPPOSED to be "filler games."
Considered by whom? GW2 fans? sure!!! didn't know you guys were some kind of authroity on MMO genre.
Nice job bringing something else into the thread.
No, this is true of ANY MMORPG.
If you feel like it will only be "fun" to play for a month or so - a "filler" game, it is not a good MMORPG.
MMORPG supposed to last many months/years.
Any MMO which is not going to keep you playing for months/years = bad MMO.
Might still be a good GAME, but not a good MMO game.
For some reason I thought this was a TOR thread...
Oh IGN, you are so silly!
They gave TOR a 9/10, so TSW must be terrible!
The question is if the same guy made both those reviews.
Besides, TOR is fun at first but get boring after a while which pulls up the score for most reviews since few reviewers actually have the time to play a game for 2 months before making the scores.
If you think Metacritic user ratings = real people, you sir are confused.
Metacritic user ratings are the biggest pile of crap on the planet - so easily skewed and manipulated, they are about as accurate of a judge as polling about gay marriage at an Evangelical church.
And you know this how? Just curious -- how did you find out about all the fake people writing reviews on metacritic?
Common knowledge.
Far too many people who post 10s or 0s on Metacritic to make it worth a damn. Just like the "hype" ratings on MMORPG.com - far too many people do a 10 for games they like and 0 for games they don't.
Vast majority do NOT do a fair, balanced, objective review before they click their score.
Hmmmm. "Common knowledge." Try citing that in your next term paper and see what kind of grade you get. Mass reviews are basically about overall numbers and scanning through to see what the overall consensus is, possibly reading a well-written one here and there. Amazon, IMDB, Metacritic are all the same, but I have found some nice gems based on reviews on those sites. Buzz can have value, and doesn't always need to be dismissed out of hand. And if you don't respect anyone's opinion but your own, why are you here?
Now if you are talking about personal preference, an inifinite number of user or professional reviews is never going to sway you, no matter how "balanced and objective." You might as well just admit that you have made up your own mind, which you appear to have done. So why do you need to convince us you are right?
I just can't understand how people can STILL be so blind as to what a game like TSW is.
Same pig, different lipstick.
Story based, linear, grind heavy "end-game" based on pointless gear-driven PvP and "chase the carrot" instanced PvE.
Is it still 2004?
YAWN.
Anyone who gives an MMO game a full "review" after any less than 2 months is full of it - but they HAVE to give that review because the players demand it.
MMO review process in general = broken.
At least the IGN guy got one thing right-
:
"Lasting Appeal 6/10
TSW starts off extremely strong and then slowly but surely loses steam. Later characters and quests simply aren't as interesting, and the endgame's currently composed of no-frills PVP and re-runs of old dungeons. Promised monthly content updates might be worth sticking around for."
So, TSW faithful - how is this any different than.. Oh I don't know... WoW, EQ2, WAR, AoC, RIFT, LOTRO, etc. etc. etc.
For some reason I thought this was a TOR thread...
Oh IGN, you are so silly!
They gave TOR a 9/10, so TSW must be terrible!
The question is if the same guy made both those reviews.
Besides, TOR is fun at first but get boring after a while which pulls up the score for most reviews since few reviewers actually have the time to play a game for 2 months before making the scores.
No, it is not a matter of whether the same person made both of the reviews. If the reviews are done under the "IGN" brand/title, they are expected to be done according to the standards of "IGN". Otherwise, the "IGN" is just a site of random people presenting their personal opinions. Stop letting random gamers from passing their personal opinions as any kind of "official" or "professional" evaluations of anything.
TSW starts off extremely strong and then slowly but surely loses steam. Later characters and quests simply aren't as interesting, and the endgame's currently composed of no-frills PVP and re-runs of old dungeons. Promised monthly content updates might be worth sticking around for."
So, TSW faithful - how is this any different than.. Oh I don't know... WoW, EQ2, WAR, AoC, RIFT, LOTRO, etc. etc. etc.
Dunno about a few of those but..
TSW has a few 5-man instances for endgame
EQ2 has 5000+ quests and something like 40 "current level" raid encounters across multiple zones.
AoC had quite a variety of raiding - nowhere near EQ2, but much more than TSW, it also had open world pvp and siege warfare.
Rift also had a multitude of raids, not to mention dynamic zone and raid events.
LoTRO has tons and tons of content, epic weapons to progress, multitude of raids and unique open world PvP system.
TSW is an awesome game for what it is, but it's doesn't really compare to most of the games you mentioned in terms of "longevity" content.
Honestly, I think 6/10 for longevity is probably a fair score to give TSW. The only reason I took issue with that is because IGN gave TOR a 9.5 on longevity. If TOR is a 9.5 on longevity, TSW should probably get a 12. EQ2 should get like.. 300.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall Currently Playing: ESO
I just can't understand how people can STILL be so blind as to what a game like TSW is.
Same pig, different lipstick.
Story based, linear, grind heavy "end-game" based on pointless gear-driven PvP and "chase the carrot" instanced PvE.
Is it still 2004?
YAWN.
Anyone who gives an MMO game a full "review" after any less than 2 months is full of it - but they HAVE to give that review because the players demand it.
MMO review process in general = broken.
At least the IGN guy got one thing right-
:
"Lasting Appeal 6/10
TSW starts off extremely strong and then slowly but surely loses steam. Later characters and quests simply aren't as interesting, and the endgame's currently composed of no-frills PVP and re-runs of old dungeons. Promised monthly content updates might be worth sticking around for."
So, TSW faithful - how is this any different than.. Oh I don't know... WoW, EQ2, WAR, AoC, RIFT, LOTRO, etc. etc. etc.
This coming from a guy that went nuts on people when they discussed issues with SWTOR until of course he encountered them himself. You can cut the bullshit like you're somehow any different about matters. May want to tone down the hypocripsy just a tad.
Not everyone that enjoys or enjoyed the game is ignorant of its shortfalls. Many have been aware of those aspects for years.
Unlike some others around here
>_>
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I don't think many from this site would ever call me a Funcom fan but, the setting deserves kudos as well as the artwork and i liked the sound. I also like concept behind the skilltree. I did not care for the combat at all and the animations just ruined it or I would be playing it. Almost bought it myself just to play for a couple of weeks as a filler game
If it is even being considered as a "filler game" in the MMO genre it should be a max score of 5/10.
MMO games are not SUPPOSED to be "filler games."
Considered by whom? GW2 fans? sure!!! didn't know you guys were some kind of authroity on MMO genre.
Nice job bringing something else into the thread.
No, this is true of ANY MMORPG.
If you feel like it will only be "fun" to play for a month or so - a "filler" game, it is not a good MMORPG.
MMORPG supposed to last many months/years.
Any MMO which is not going to keep you playing for months/years = bad MMO.
Might still be a good GAME, but not a good MMO game.
I know what you meant, don't try to act all cute now. When you said TSW is considered a 'filler' MMO by the most, it doesn't take very intelligent brain to understand what you were trying to say here. And your post history certainly doesn't help either. Atleast be honest and say how you meant it.
*it is a filler MMO for most till GW2 comes out*
Don't take us for an idiot please. I don't see any other themepark MMO releasing in a month or so to consider TSW as a filler or a time pass MMO till then.
You still failed to tell us who are these people who consider TSW a filler MMO ? and why their opinion is so important that TSW shouldn't be considered a good MMO and only a good game?
personally, any review that doesnt give Sound a 10/10 is completely lost.
The music is intense when it needs to be, eerie most of the time, captavating, and extremely well placed. Siren song, and Inferno dungeons, are the best sounding quests/dungeons I have ever seen, the sound is alluring and yet creepy. Travel to London, and you go into every different shop, playing some different music and ambiance. Pangea with its classic Mozart style, the record shop where I even heard a Smiths reference, the list goes on and on. I didnt even mention the voice acting, which does circles around SWtor, without the high cost.
Graphics 8/10. The scenery, the zones, the detail in the world I give 10/10, the people in the cutscenes, while brilliantly acted and voiced, are graphicly bad, and poorly animated for voice/mouth detail 6/10 on this issue.
Longevity 9/10 remains to be seen, its obviously not an alt friendly game for me, so not much replayability, but since they seem to have patches coming fast and furious, it should maintain a great niche audience.
PVP 6/10 havent done much of it, but most of it is uninspiring, will say I am enjoying the PVE so far too much to really get into pvp anyways.
It looks like a fair review from IGN, considering the game as it is now.
I can't really comment on the sound as you'd have to be playing to actually feel it, but the rest seems spot-on.
Also I don't get the people saying the graphics are amazing, every screenshot or HD video I've seen shown mediocre graphics. Is everyone playing on low settings or so?
I just can't understand how people can STILL be so blind as to what a game like TSW is.
Same pig, different lipstick.
Story based, linear, grind heavy "end-game" based on pointless gear-driven PvP and "chase the carrot" instanced PvE.
Is it still 2004?
YAWN.
Anyone who gives an MMO game a full "review" after any less than 2 months is full of it - but they HAVE to give that review because the players demand it.
MMO review process in general = broken.
At least the IGN guy got one thing right-
:
"Lasting Appeal 6/10
TSW starts off extremely strong and then slowly but surely loses steam. Later characters and quests simply aren't as interesting, and the endgame's currently composed of no-frills PVP and re-runs of old dungeons. Promised monthly content updates might be worth sticking around for."
So, TSW faithful - how is this any different than.. Oh I don't know... WoW, EQ2, WAR, AoC, RIFT, LOTRO, etc. etc. etc.
This coming from a guy that went nuts on people when they discussed issues with SWTOR until of course he encountered them himself. You can cut the bullshit like you're somehow any different about matters. May want to tone down the hypocripsy just a tad.
Not everyone that enjoys or enjoyed the game is ignorant of its shortfalls. Many have been aware of those aspects for years.
I don't think many from this site would ever call me a Funcom fan but, the setting deserves kudos as well as the artwork and i liked the sound. I also like concept behind the skilltree. I did not care for the combat at all and the animations just ruined it or I would be playing it. Almost bought it myself just to play for a couple of weeks as a filler game
If it is even being considered as a "filler game" in the MMO genre it should be a max score of 5/10.
MMO games are not SUPPOSED to be "filler games."
Considered by whom? GW2 fans? sure!!! didn't know you guys were some kind of authroity on MMO genre.
I don't claim to be any sort of authority at all on the genre, I do however know what I like and what I do not and how much value I wil place on a game. If I had been able to find a box copy for 20 bucks, I would have bought it for a months play. At the end of that month I may or may not have subscribed, judging from what I experanced in the BWE's most likly I would have not
Anyway I bought Witcher 2 instead yesterday, not sure if that was worth the 20 or not either, not crazy about the controls
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I'm still lost, Gamespot gave them a 7.5.
Though honestly TSW is far better than SWTOR in almost all aspects.
I'd give TSW a 8 at most, but a 7?
Something seems a bit iffy lol.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
A 7 is generous.
I don't think many from this site would ever call me a Funcom fan but, the setting deserves kudos as well as the artwork and i liked the sound. I also like concept behind the skilltree. I did not care for the combat at all and the animations just ruined it or I would be playing it. Almost bought it myself just to play for a couple of weeks as a filler game
I miss DAoC
Don't care about the score of an "official review" but isn't it a bit early to talk about longevity when the game has been out for a few weeks with no content updates/expansions which are supposed to address the longevity? Sure there are always a few outliers who consume all content of any game in record time which has no correlation to the experience of the average/median gamer.
If it is even being considered as a "filler game" in the MMO genre it should be a max score of 5/10.
MMO games are not SUPPOSED to be "filler games."
Back from summer vacation away from mmorpg.com and full of new energy so I'll grab this: Considered by whom exactly? Filler game for what? Why would that warrant 5/10?
[mod edit]
/shrug.
I needed a comparison point for evaluating this review. A number in a vacuum is meaningless. So i went back and looked at what score IGN gave SWTOR.
Because - for better or worse - TSW is basically the same game as TOR, just with better story, better immersion, better acting and better character development system. But as a whole, it has the same issues in terms of longevity, in terms of being "not MMO-ey enough", etc.
So i looked. And i found that IGN gave to 9/10. IGN gave TOR 9.5 on "lasting appeal" and it gave TSW a 6.0. Considering the games are both equal (equally bad if you like).. it found this to be quite ironic. They gave TOR 10/10 on sound... now this may be personal preference, but from Voice acting, to the amazing music, the thoroughly creepy sound effects, TSW has TOR beat on every single aspect of "sound".
So i tried to find a baseline for comparison and I coudln't. If a 9.0 game is like TOR and a 7.0 game is like TSW, i'd prefer that all future game try to score lower. Becase if TOR is the epitome of MMOs (with a 9/10) score, then i don't want to play MMOs anymore.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
You're missing his point.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Yeah...but it was two different reviewers. So not surprising they would gauge things differently. Well that and the fact clearly the SWTOR reviewer was either completely stoned or well...completely stoned.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Sorry, but any game which makes me log off in frustration because I got 3 quests in a row which couldn't be completed due to bugs really doesn't deserve more than a 7.
Once the bugs are sorted out I'd give the game an 8 - 8.5 easily. That rating does not include PvP though, because I have absolutely no interest in it.
I only played in closed beta, but at that point I would have given 6/10, so a 7/10 after release sounds right.
Nice job bringing something else into the thread.
No, this is true of ANY MMORPG.
If you feel like it will only be "fun" to play for a month or so - a "filler" game, it is not a good MMORPG.
MMORPG supposed to last many months/years.
Any MMO which is not going to keep you playing for months/years = bad MMO.
Might still be a good GAME, but not a good MMO game.
Wait, so SWTOR got a 9 and TSW gets a 7.....?
Yeah SWTOR paid for that fucking score just like everyone thought.
The question is if the same guy made both those reviews.
Besides, TOR is fun at first but get boring after a while which pulls up the score for most reviews since few reviewers actually have the time to play a game for 2 months before making the scores.
Hmmmm. "Common knowledge." Try citing that in your next term paper and see what kind of grade you get. Mass reviews are basically about overall numbers and scanning through to see what the overall consensus is, possibly reading a well-written one here and there. Amazon, IMDB, Metacritic are all the same, but I have found some nice gems based on reviews on those sites. Buzz can have value, and doesn't always need to be dismissed out of hand. And if you don't respect anyone's opinion but your own, why are you here?
Now if you are talking about personal preference, an inifinite number of user or professional reviews is never going to sway you, no matter how "balanced and objective." You might as well just admit that you have made up your own mind, which you appear to have done. So why do you need to convince us you are right?
35 "pro" reviews average out to 71/100 for TSW.
TERA got a 77.
TOR a 93 I think?
Metacritic is useless.
Most reviews and reviewers are useless.
I just can't understand how people can STILL be so blind as to what a game like TSW is.
Same pig, different lipstick.
Story based, linear, grind heavy "end-game" based on pointless gear-driven PvP and "chase the carrot" instanced PvE.
Is it still 2004?
YAWN.
Anyone who gives an MMO game a full "review" after any less than 2 months is full of it - but they HAVE to give that review because the players demand it.
MMO review process in general = broken.
At least the IGN guy got one thing right-
:
No, it is not a matter of whether the same person made both of the reviews. If the reviews are done under the "IGN" brand/title, they are expected to be done according to the standards of "IGN". Otherwise, the "IGN" is just a site of random people presenting their personal opinions. Stop letting random gamers from passing their personal opinions as any kind of "official" or "professional" evaluations of anything.
Dunno about a few of those but..
TSW has a few 5-man instances for endgame
EQ2 has 5000+ quests and something like 40 "current level" raid encounters across multiple zones.
AoC had quite a variety of raiding - nowhere near EQ2, but much more than TSW, it also had open world pvp and siege warfare.
Rift also had a multitude of raids, not to mention dynamic zone and raid events.
LoTRO has tons and tons of content, epic weapons to progress, multitude of raids and unique open world PvP system.
TSW is an awesome game for what it is, but it's doesn't really compare to most of the games you mentioned in terms of "longevity" content.
Honestly, I think 6/10 for longevity is probably a fair score to give TSW. The only reason I took issue with that is because IGN gave TOR a 9.5 on longevity. If TOR is a 9.5 on longevity, TSW should probably get a 12. EQ2 should get like.. 300.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
This coming from a guy that went nuts on people when they discussed issues with SWTOR until of course he encountered them himself. You can cut the bullshit like you're somehow any different about matters. May want to tone down the hypocripsy just a tad.
Not everyone that enjoys or enjoyed the game is ignorant of its shortfalls. Many have been aware of those aspects for years.
Unlike some others around here
>_>
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I know what you meant, don't try to act all cute now. When you said TSW is considered a 'filler' MMO by the most, it doesn't take very intelligent brain to understand what you were trying to say here. And your post history certainly doesn't help either. Atleast be honest and say how you meant it.
*it is a filler MMO for most till GW2 comes out*
Don't take us for an idiot please. I don't see any other themepark MMO releasing in a month or so to consider TSW as a filler or a time pass MMO till then.
You still failed to tell us who are these people who consider TSW a filler MMO ? and why their opinion is so important that TSW shouldn't be considered a good MMO and only a good game?
personally, any review that doesnt give Sound a 10/10 is completely lost.
The music is intense when it needs to be, eerie most of the time, captavating, and extremely well placed. Siren song, and Inferno dungeons, are the best sounding quests/dungeons I have ever seen, the sound is alluring and yet creepy. Travel to London, and you go into every different shop, playing some different music and ambiance. Pangea with its classic Mozart style, the record shop where I even heard a Smiths reference, the list goes on and on. I didnt even mention the voice acting, which does circles around SWtor, without the high cost.
Graphics 8/10. The scenery, the zones, the detail in the world I give 10/10, the people in the cutscenes, while brilliantly acted and voiced, are graphicly bad, and poorly animated for voice/mouth detail 6/10 on this issue.
Longevity 9/10 remains to be seen, its obviously not an alt friendly game for me, so not much replayability, but since they seem to have patches coming fast and furious, it should maintain a great niche audience.
PVP 6/10 havent done much of it, but most of it is uninspiring, will say I am enjoying the PVE so far too much to really get into pvp anyways.
bottom line if SWTOR is a 9, TSW is a 12
Fair review by IGN.
Of course you can't compare to the SWTOR review since that one was completely off target.
But since TERA got 6.5 i guess 7 for TSW is pretty accurate.
It looks like a fair review from IGN, considering the game as it is now.
I can't really comment on the sound as you'd have to be playing to actually feel it, but the rest seems spot-on.
Also I don't get the people saying the graphics are amazing, every screenshot or HD video I've seen shown mediocre graphics. Is everyone playing on low settings or so?
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
I don't claim to be any sort of authority at all on the genre, I do however know what I like and what I do not and how much value I wil place on a game. If I had been able to find a box copy for 20 bucks, I would have bought it for a months play. At the end of that month I may or may not have subscribed, judging from what I experanced in the BWE's most likly I would have not
Anyway I bought Witcher 2 instead yesterday, not sure if that was worth the 20 or not either, not crazy about the controls
I miss DAoC