I'm reluctant to go to extreme measures for these situations as well because the game is what it is. If the devs have coded in things which can be exploited....that's just the way it is until they fix it.
. And dunno how many times I have to say this. This thread was about cheaters "only" being banned for 30 days for duping, which is a pure lie, and made by some1 that couldn´t comprehend the text he was reading.
Out of curiosity, how long were the cheaters banned for?
30 days
although esentially, they were suspended for a period of at least 30 days pending an investigation. But who cares about that minor detail
So you see my point :-)
I guess their mistake was in announcing the 30 days. They simply should have announced that the parties were banned pending investigation...
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there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ... and we are talking about blizzard!
Theres a world of difference between dupes in a full loot pvp game with a player driven economy ( lol in theory) and botting/macroing in a theme park .
Is there? People still get advantages in D3 for doing it. How can duping in any type of game be good? Thing is Blizzard has the money and manpower to really put their foot down on the exploiters, but so far haven't. SV are doing the best they can with what they have. Now how can that be a bad thing?
I don't think he said duping was "good" in any game, but that it affected players experience less in D3 than in MO, as MO is all about open world PvP, player economy and territory control, not to forget full loot while D3 is a heavy PvE game. Mobs don't qq on forums after getting ganked.
I dunno if PVP is in D3 yet, since I don´t play it, but Blizzard said early on that there would be PVP in D3, so it sure ain´t only gonna be used in PVE. And as I said, Blizzard has the resources to do something about it but they don´t. SV have poor resources as we all know, but they at least try to do something about it. How this can ever be considered bad is beyond me. And dupes is going on in most MMOs out there, so the OP might just as well stop playing MMOs all together with the way he sees it...
Edit. And also your completly missing the point. SV, without that much resources to stop shit like this, are trying to do SOMETHING about it. While Blizzard, that drown in money, does NOTHING about it. And as I said, most MMOs has had duping. It´s not like it´s unique to MO.
Stop being obtuse
Blizzard has always done things about duping, just as they are doing things now. Diablo 3 duping isn't even on the same planet as the severity as it is in MO because they aren't even the same type of game.
You meet dupers and cheaters in D3 what do you do? Leave the game and join another, big whoop.
You meet dupers and cheaters in MO what do you do? Prepare your anus because they are going in dry.
lol. And where do you get that from? The ones that duped might suck ass and get to taste my weenie. Why do people dupe in the first place? Cause they have no moral, and suck ass to begin with. They think by cheating, they will "win". Well, that´s not always the case. They might have more of one kind of sword etc, but once you stand there on the battlefield, it doesn´t matter of how many gold you have in your bank. It comes down to how well you fight. I´ve beaten people with better gear many times, and gotten beaten by people with less powerfull gear as well.
Also, you don´t know who has duped when you fight them in D3, MO, WoW, DF or any other MMO. You can´t just say "Well, that guy is duped. I´m outa here!!!". Actually you can, but that would make you look like sour loser. And once more, it´s not like SV are accepting dupers in MO. They do ban them. They lack the recources that bigger companies like Blizzard have, but they ARE doing something about it. But this thread was made cause the OP thought it was "only" 30 days for duping in MO, which it ain´t, so this post is meaningless. His point is as empty as a balloon.
I'm not doubting that effort goes into getting rid of cheaters from SV. I'm saying cheating and duping has a much bigger effect when it happens in MO because of the type of game it is.
Well, actually it doesn´t. It maybe make the cheater richer etc. But as I said b4. Once your out on the field all that duped mat he had is in the bank. Yes he dies, and has to pick up a new set, and didn´t loose that much. Except for when he is caught and banned. Then he loses it all.
And MO is not the only MMO that has problems with duping. And dunno how many times I have to say this. This thread was about cheaters "only" being banned for 30 days for duping, which is a pure lie, and made by some1 that couldn´t comprehend the text he was reading. So this thread is pointless. Yes there been dupes in MO. Cheaters do get caught. Some also escape the net. But that happens in almost every MMO out there. Nothing new to MO.
So a duper gets caught and banned and "loses it all"...so he just starts a new account and redupes everything he had back. Oh noes! You also forget that a duper not only supplies himself with armor but his friends. So while you and your friends lose all the armor they have, they jjust keep gearing up and coming back for more. Don't downplay the advantage dupers get, that's misleading.
Dupes happen in a lot of MMOs but affect FFA full loot games the hardest
. And dunno how many times I have to say this. This thread was about cheaters "only" being banned for 30 days for duping, which is a pure lie, and made by some1 that couldn´t comprehend the text he was reading.
Out of curiosity, how long were the cheaters banned for?
30 days
although esentially, they were suspended for a period of at least 30 days pending an investigation. But who cares about that minor detail
So you see my point :-)
I guess their mistake was in announcing the 30 days. They simply should have announced that the parties were banned pending investigation...
Yes lets dogpile on SV for not catering to other people's poor reading comprehension and making statements idiot proof.
there are on average about 10k bots online in ddiablo 3 and more then 5k people using 3'rd party scrips and applications and i have seen 0 bans so far ... and we are talking about blizzard!
Theres a world of difference between dupes in a full loot pvp game with a player driven economy ( lol in theory) and botting/macroing in a theme park .
Is there? People still get advantages in D3 for doing it. How can duping in any type of game be good? Thing is Blizzard has the money and manpower to really put their foot down on the exploiters, but so far haven't. SV are doing the best they can with what they have. Now how can that be a bad thing?
I don't think he said duping was "good" in any game, but that it affected players experience less in D3 than in MO, as MO is all about open world PvP, player economy and territory control, not to forget full loot while D3 is a heavy PvE game. Mobs don't qq on forums after getting ganked.
I dunno if PVP is in D3 yet, since I don´t play it, but Blizzard said early on that there would be PVP in D3, so it sure ain´t only gonna be used in PVE. And as I said, Blizzard has the resources to do something about it but they don´t. SV have poor resources as we all know, but they at least try to do something about it. How this can ever be considered bad is beyond me. And dupes is going on in most MMOs out there, so the OP might just as well stop playing MMOs all together with the way he sees it...
Edit. And also your completly missing the point. SV, without that much resources to stop shit like this, are trying to do SOMETHING about it. While Blizzard, that drown in money, does NOTHING about it. And as I said, most MMOs has had duping. It´s not like it´s unique to MO.
Stop being obtuse
Blizzard has always done things about duping, just as they are doing things now. Diablo 3 duping isn't even on the same planet as the severity as it is in MO because they aren't even the same type of game.
You meet dupers and cheaters in D3 what do you do? Leave the game and join another, big whoop.
You meet dupers and cheaters in MO what do you do? Prepare your anus because they are going in dry.
lol. And where do you get that from? The ones that duped might suck ass and get to taste my weenie. Why do people dupe in the first place? Cause they have no moral, and suck ass to begin with. They think by cheating, they will "win". Well, that´s not always the case. They might have more of one kind of sword etc, but once you stand there on the battlefield, it doesn´t matter of how many gold you have in your bank. It comes down to how well you fight. I´ve beaten people with better gear many times, and gotten beaten by people with less powerfull gear as well.
Also, you don´t know who has duped when you fight them in D3, MO, WoW, DF or any other MMO. You can´t just say "Well, that guy is duped. I´m outa here!!!". Actually you can, but that would make you look like sour loser. And once more, it´s not like SV are accepting dupers in MO. They do ban them. They lack the recources that bigger companies like Blizzard have, but they ARE doing something about it. But this thread was made cause the OP thought it was "only" 30 days for duping in MO, which it ain´t, so this post is meaningless. His point is as empty as a balloon.
I'm not doubting that effort goes into getting rid of cheaters from SV. I'm saying cheating and duping has a much bigger effect when it happens in MO because of the type of game it is.
Well, actually it doesn´t. It maybe make the cheater richer etc. But as I said b4. Once your out on the field all that duped mat he had is in the bank. Yes he dies, and has to pick up a new set, and didn´t loose that much. Except for when he is caught and banned. Then he loses it all.
And MO is not the only MMO that has problems with duping. And dunno how many times I have to say this. This thread was about cheaters "only" being banned for 30 days for duping, which is a pure lie, and made by some1 that couldn´t comprehend the text he was reading. So this thread is pointless. Yes there been dupes in MO. Cheaters do get caught. Some also escape the net. But that happens in almost every MMO out there. Nothing new to MO.
So a duper gets caught and banned and "loses it all"...so he just starts a new account and redupes everything he had back. Oh noes! You also forget that a duper not only supplies himself with armor but his friends. So while you and your friends lose all the armor they have, they jjust keep gearing up and coming back for more. Don't downplay the advantage dupers get, that's misleading.
Dupes happen in a lot of MMOs but affect FFA full loot games the hardest
Yeah, and you know that for a fact right? Then I know for a fact that most dupers get their little bubble ego blown and don´t wanna waste more money on buying another account, and risking to get banned again, and again and again etc. Some maybe are THAT stupid, and the duping to start of could be proof enough of that, but I think them greens count more then that armor ingame...
Also, if a dupe gets to SVs attention, they do something about it. It´s not like it will still be there for the duper to exploit over and over. Yes, new dupes might arries, but it´s not like dupes are all over the place, and there for anyone to grab like you make it sound.
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I'm reluctant to go to extreme measures for these situations as well because the game is what it is. If the devs have coded in things which can be exploited....that's just the way it is until they fix it.
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So you see my point :-)
I guess their mistake was in announcing the 30 days. They simply should have announced that the parties were banned pending investigation...
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So a duper gets caught and banned and "loses it all"...so he just starts a new account and redupes everything he had back. Oh noes! You also forget that a duper not only supplies himself with armor but his friends. So while you and your friends lose all the armor they have, they jjust keep gearing up and coming back for more. Don't downplay the advantage dupers get, that's misleading.
Dupes happen in a lot of MMOs but affect FFA full loot games the hardest
Well fortunatelly I have zero tolerance policy towards companies that does not have zero tolerance policy or are faking it.
Sick and tired of companies (huge majority of mmorpg companies sadly) who does not perma ban for things like this.
People use exploits heavily, duping or hacking and they get temp bans.
That's fucking laughable. No point of staying in that kind of game and enviroment imho.
Yes lets dogpile on SV for not catering to other people's poor reading comprehension and making statements idiot proof.
Yeah, and you know that for a fact right? Then I know for a fact that most dupers get their little bubble ego blown and don´t wanna waste more money on buying another account, and risking to get banned again, and again and again etc. Some maybe are THAT stupid, and the duping to start of could be proof enough of that, but I think them greens count more then that armor ingame...
Also, if a dupe gets to SVs attention, they do something about it. It´s not like it will still be there for the duper to exploit over and over. Yes, new dupes might arries, but it´s not like dupes are all over the place, and there for anyone to grab like you make it sound.