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Why we should NOT trust ANET

grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935

Simple: Guild Wars.

Prior to it's release, it was touted as the "revolution" of the MMO genre.  Most clamored to this new B2P model thinking it would overthrow WoW and other P2P titles.  A few days in and people realized the gravest of all errors:  the game wasn't even an MMO, but a COOP game with a lobby system.

I, for one, fell for the hype back the.  I am determined not to make the same mistake again with this company.

P.S. Not a troll/flame thread.  But a real discussion as to why people might not be trusting of ANET.

 

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  • NeferaNefera Member Posts: 426

    Why would you think it was a MMO, when the company never called it one? They said prior to release that it was a CORPG, not a MMO.

  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935

    As an addition, I wasn't able to get the sour taste out of my mouth for this game for years.  Wasn't until a few years back that I was able to enjoy the game because I was able to approach it without my preconceived notions.

  • AlotAlot Member Posts: 1,948

    What can I say, people are stupid. They had six Beta Weekend Events for GW1 in which they could see that the game was instanced.

  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935
    Originally posted by Nefera

    Why would you think it was a MMO, when the company never called it one? They said prior to release that it was a CORPG, not a MMO.

    I remember it being marketed as an MMO.  I don't recall them saying that at all.

  • NeferaNefera Member Posts: 426

    So let me get this straight - you're saying people should not trust ArenaNet, because you thought you were buying a MMO when the company was coming out clear that they were making a CORPG, not a traditional MMO? And because you realized it wasn't what you thought it was, but exactly what the developers were saying it would be, we should not trust the developer?

  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935
    Originally posted by Alot

    What can I say, people are stupid. They had six Beta Weekend Events for GW1 in which they could see that the game was instanced.

    Not everyone plays the betas.  Doesn't make one stupid for not participating in them.

  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534
    Originally posted by grimal
    Originally posted by Nefera

    Why would you think it was a MMO, when the company never called it one? They said prior to release that it was a CORPG, not a MMO.

    I remember it being marketed as an MMO.  I don't recall them saying that at all.

    "them"? those who killed kenny?! those bastards!

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    Originally posted by grimal

    Simple: Guild Wars.

    Prior to it's release, it was touted as the "revolution" of the MMO genre.  Most clamored to this new B2P model thinking it would overthrow WoW and other P2P titles.  A few days in and people realized the gravest of all errors:  the game wasn't even an MMO, but a COOP game with a lobby system.

    I, for one, fell for the hype back the.  I am determined not to make the same mistake again with this company.

    P.S. Not a troll/flame thread.  But a real discussion as to why people might not be trusting of ANET.

     

    GW was a great game but it wasn't for everyone. There was nothing wrong with GW because it was a game you could even play when using a modem to dial in. WoW couldn't do that and many others of the same era couldn't say that either.

    You have given no reason why GW is the reason not to trust A.Net. The game was exactly as it was described. I can't find fault with that. You gave no explanations so my conclusion is that this is really a flame/troll thread.

    If you want people to discuss something, you have to give more information. As Johnny said, 'NEED MORE INFO!'


  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990

    God, I remember it was nuts on the WoW forums. A gagillion topics about how GW was destroy WoW when it launched.

    I will admit though. It was because of those poster that I even heard of GW at the time. XD

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Think I just got a glimpse at a fraction of what my "Games Played" list would look like in my signature.

     

    As for the OP, I pray for your soul as GW2 fans will eat you alive being that it is currently Pre-Release for GW2.

    The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
    Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053

    They never said it was an mmo, in fact they called it a corpg.

  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935
    Originally posted by Thane
    Originally posted by grimal
    Originally posted by Nefera

    Why would you think it was a MMO, when the company never called it one? They said prior to release that it was a CORPG, not a MMO.

    I remember it being marketed as an MMO.  I don't recall them saying that at all.

    "them"? those who killed kenny?! those bastards!

    Have no idea what you are talking about.

  • WhiteProphetWhiteProphet Member UncommonPosts: 47

    Lol I and many more love gw, been playing it for 7 years. And after some 3 years in gw i tried wow. Just couldn't play it compered to gw it was a gear grind trash. Just how I felt. I wes never bothered with the world not being open and stuff, pvp was even ground for everyone and requierd skill in creating builds and coordiantion in a team. Gw was my best "mmo" expirience and i hope gw2 will replace it since nothing else in the recent years could.

    Well thats just how i fell about it.

  • aesperusaesperus Member UncommonPosts: 5,135

    If you want to have a real discussion (and are not honestly trolling), then you may want to get your facts straight first.

    GW1 isn't (and never was) an MMORPG. The developers even stated as such. The fact that you feel you got burned by this says more about your reading comprehension, than it does about Anet.

    You aren't wrong, though. We shouldn't trust Anet, but it has nothing to do w/ their track record. They actually have a really good one. You shouldn't trust them because they are a company, and as with all companies their most primary function is to make money off you. Support them for making good decisions, but always be prepared for if they make mistakes / take a wrong turn. They are only human after all.

  • evilastroevilastro Member Posts: 4,270

    I think we have reached a new low with the troll threads.

    1) They never called GW1 a MMO, they made it abundantly clear in everything from the previews through to the packaging of the game itself that it did not have persistant adventure zones. Although that said, it was more of a MMO than some of the new action games that called MMOs like Vindictus.

    2) The game is one of the Top 10 best selling PC games of all time, with over 6.5 million copies sold. It did revolutionise the genre as pretty much the only RPG with balanced and skill based PvP.

     

    I think your trust issues shoudl be with your reading capabilities. ArenaNet has been nothing but honest in all of their liason with the public. If you expected something else from Guild Wars 1 other than what they delivered, it is because you are unable to read and comprehend simple statements, not because they lied to you.

  • sgelsgel Member EpicPosts: 2,197
    Originally posted by aesperus

    If you want to have a real discussion (and are not honestly trolling), then you may want to get your facts straight first.

    GW1 isn't (and never was) an MMORPG. The developers even stated as such. The fact that you feel you got burned by this says more about your reading comprehension, than it does about Anet.

    You aren't wrong, though. We shouldn't trust Anet, but it has nothing to do w/ their track record. They actually have a really good one. You shouldn't trust them because they are a company, and as with all companies their most primary function is to make money off you. Support them for making good decisions, but always be prepared for if they make mistakes / take a wrong turn. They are only human after all.

    this ^^

    They might be much much nicer than most companies out there, but they are still a company.... a very nice company though :)

    ..Cake..

  • LucioonLucioon Member UncommonPosts: 819

    I think you  disappointed yourself instead of Anet disappointing you.

    I also created an account for Guild War 1 , it was a free trial, I went in, didn't like it then never went back.

    I went into GW2's beta, BWE1, BWE2 and BWE3, I enjoyed my stay in those three betas, never went pass level 10, cause I don't wanna spoil myself, but instead explored every race's capital city inside and out so that I know where to go and who to talk to.

    I am going into GW2 knowing exactly what kind of a game this is, and with all the informations and details on Youtube, pretty much all is revealed for the base game.

    If by now, you still don't like GW2, then really no one is forcing you to, I keep hearing great things about TSW but still that wasn't My cup of tea so I am not playing it, I made that decision myself after watching Game Play Videos.

    Don't follow the crowd, just play the game the way you want to, its not a big deal if you decided that you don't like it. No one will be mad at you.

     

    Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.

  • MeowheadMeowhead Member UncommonPosts: 3,716

    ... weird.  I definitely remember them being very insistent on GW1 not being an MMORPG.

    Go take a look at one of the boxes.  I still have all three original collector's edition boxes, they don't say MMORPG anywhere on them.

    I think this means you shouldn't trust whoever told you it was an MMORPG.

    Damn those people, misleading you!  If it's a friend, shun them.  If it's a magazine, read another.  If it's a website, boycott it.  If you made it up yourself because easily confused, time to start seeking a second opinion on everything.

    We should get to the bottom of this, and hold those people who misled you responsible!

  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297

    Dunno what to say really about the your first post here OP.

    If I go buy a fully labelled chocolate bar and find out when I start eating that it has peanuts in it (and I don't like peanuts) I'm pretty sure it's my own fault for getting it wrong when all the information was there for me to see.

    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363
    Originally posted by grimal
    Originally posted by Nefera

    Why would you think it was a MMO, when the company never called it one? They said prior to release that it was a CORPG, not a MMO.

    I remember it being marketed as an MMO.  I don't recall them saying that at all.

    Actually, They did call it a CORPG because it was instanced. The reasopn being is that A.Net wanted people to play the game even if they had a modem. I played with many guildies, at the time, who had a modem and they could connect and have no issues with any of the game (other than slower loading).

    A.Net's reasoning was simple, they wanted as many people to play the game and enjoy it as possible. Not everyone had broadband connections, at that time, and this was a way to get the most players. How can you find fault with that?


  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935

    This isn't a troll post.

    GW1 was marketed to directly compete against the WoW crowd.  I wasn't the only one who thought it was going to be an MMO.  Look back at the GW1 threads around the time of release.  There are plenty posts made by people complaining the game wasn't even an MMO (in fact, there was a lot of debate as to why the game was even included on the list of games on this site).

     

  • joocheesejoocheese Member Posts: 845
    Originally posted by grimal

    Simple: Guild Wars.

    Prior to it's release, it was touted as the "revolution" of the MMO genre.  Most clamored to this new B2P model thinking it would overthrow WoW and other P2P titles.  A few days in and people realized the gravest of all errors:  the game wasn't even an MMO, but a COOP game with a lobby system.

    I, for one, fell for the hype back the.  I am determined not to make the same mistake again with this company.

    P.S. Not a troll/flame thread.  But a real discussion as to why people might not be trusting of ANET.

    You do realize that GW was released 5 months after WOW right? (WOW: Nov '04 & GW: April '05).

    I sure as hell don't remember anything about "most" clamoring thatGW would be overthrowing WOW. And GW was never advertized (by Anet) as an MMO.

    If you wanted to start a thread as to why people should not trust Anet, you should have linked something in order to substantiate your claims. Not only that, but you should have found something for which to blame Anet as a untrustworthy company; such as lying to customers, cheating people out of something, or some illegal or borderline illegal activity.

    That fact that you did none of the above does in fact lead me to believe you this is a troll/flame thread and nothing more.

  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by grimal
    Originally posted by Nefera

    Why would you think it was a MMO, when the company never called it one? They said prior to release that it was a CORPG, not a MMO.

    I remember it being marketed as an MMO.  I don't recall them saying that at all.

    Actually, They did call it a CORPG because it was instanced. The reasopn being is that A.Net wanted people to play the game even if they had a modem. I played with many guildies, at the time, who had a modem and they could connect and have no issues with any of the game (other than slower loading).

    A.Net's reasoning was simple, they wanted as many people to play the game and enjoy it as possible. Not everyone had broadband connections, at that time, and this was a way to get the most players. How can you find fault with that?

    Play with a modem?  The game was released in 2005.  Who didn't have broadband options by that time?

  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053
    Originally posted by grimal

    This isn't a troll post.

    GW1 was marketed to directly compete against the WoW crowd.  I wasn't the only one who thought it was going to be an MMO.  Look back at the GW1 threads around the time of release.  There are plenty posts made by people complaining the game wasn't even an MMO (in fact, there was a lot of debate as to why the game was even included on the list of games on this site).

     

    Perhaps you and others should have paid a bit more attention then.

  • BadaboomBadaboom Member UncommonPosts: 2,380
    Originally posted by grimal

    This isn't a troll post.

    GW1 was marketed to directly compete against the WoW crowd.  I wasn't the only one who thought it was going to be an MMO.  Look back at the GW1 threads around the time of release.  There are plenty posts made by people complaining the game wasn't even an MMO (in fact, there was a lot of debate as to why the game was even included on the list of games on this site).

     

    What does this have to do with GW2.  GW2 is so vastly different than GW1.  Are you saying otherwise?

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