I follow (am friends with) GW2 on facebook and visit the guildwars2.com page frequently? I have seen the picture with the mud covered person and the eye... what else is rumored? Fill me in lol
Well, that's it pretty much. It appears those reddit folk were all over that. It would stand to reason they are doing another marketing push next week with the launch. That in turn explains why there is nothing to see this week.
Originally posted by Distopia Didn't they say something about wanting to rely on word of mouth? I could have sworn O'brien said something like that when talking to Forbes?
“We’re in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO. I think we have something unique here and players are going to see it and understand why dynamic events are a way better content model than people have experienced before in online worlds. Word-of-mouth will get people to understand that we really are doing something new and different. The sky’s the limit once this game is out. Online worlds have a networking effect. People will bring friends to Guild Wars 2. We hope all the people who play the beta weekend will tell their friends about it.”
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Originally posted by Aerowyn i still honestly think they got enough pre-purchased/pre-orders that they don't need to spend all that money on it..
Yep
They don't need to
At this point the fans are essentailly marketing it for them anyways.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I understand the whole viral marketing word of mouth campaign etc. it's far, far cheaper and equally as effective (if your product is quality) but having just about zero "traditional" marketing?
I remember the pre-purchase/order marketing, they had it all over mmorpg.com too, but I am still shocked to be seeing nothing this close to launch.
They might have blown their budget for advertisment, and seeing the success it had so far it would probably be not worth the $$ to increase it even more as most who actually want to play it probably bought it already.
Originally posted by Joekra They might have blown their budget for advertisment, and seeing the success it had so far it would probably be not worth the $$ to increase it even more as most who actually want to play it probably bought it already.
you can see in the article I posted on previous page Anet planned on using word of mouth from the BWEs
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I understand the whole viral marketing word of mouth campaign etc. it's far, far cheaper and equally as effective (if your product is quality) but having just about zero "traditional" marketing?
I remember the pre-purchase/order marketing, they had it all over mmorpg.com too, but I am still shocked to be seeing nothing this close to launch.
Well, the likely scenarios are that the stress tests showed they can't take a hit of even MORE players initially...
... or that they ran out of money and were given the choice of more advertising budget or paychecks.
Originally posted by Aerowynseems the BWEs was all the advertising they needed heh
^^This.With all the crazy hype of new games and subsequent hate crash, it wouldn't surprise me if the take the quiet road for launch with a steady build upwards.
Wouldn't this theory fly directly against the prevailing opinion on mmorpg.com (well the negative prevailing opinion) that GW2 is the most hyped MMO ever?
The most hyped, and least advertised AAA MMORPG ever? A weird combination in my opinion.
If it is least advertised, then who is doing all this hype? *snicker* I'm JK I know the answer already
Who would that be? *looks at Aerowyn*... I have no idea who could fit such a catagory. >.>
Precisely when something its very popular between people they dont really need much advertising, the people itself is, to make a quick example, do you see in TV spots of "buy a ferrari!!/ lamborgini" ? probably not, they dont need to. So more or less is that.
Originally posted by Aerowynseems the BWEs was all the advertising they needed heh
^^This.With all the crazy hype of new games and subsequent hate crash, it wouldn't surprise me if the take the quiet road for launch with a steady build upwards.
Wouldn't this theory fly directly against the prevailing opinion on mmorpg.com (well the negative prevailing opinion) that GW2 is the most hyped MMO ever?
The most hyped, and least advertised AAA MMORPG ever? A weird combination in my opinion.
If it is least advertised, then who is doing all this hype? *snicker* I'm JK I know the answer already
Who would that be? *looks at Aerowyn*... I have no idea who could fit such a catagory. >.>
no clue what you are talking about :P heh.. but really it does take some pride in your product to allow word of mouth to be your #1 source of advertisement.. think you should link this to the OP
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Originally posted by eggy08 Originally posted by BadSpockOriginally posted by AlotOriginally posted by BadSpockOriginally posted by Lord_AmraOriginally posted by Aerowynseems the BWEs was all the advertising they needed heh
^^This.With all the crazy hype of new games and subsequent hate crash, it wouldn't surprise me if the take the quiet road for launch with a steady build upwards.Wouldn't this theory fly directly against the prevailing opinion on mmorpg.com (well the negative prevailing opinion) that GW2 is the most hyped MMO ever?The most hyped, and least advertised AAA MMORPG ever? A weird combination in my opinion.If it is least advertised, then who is doing all this hype? *snicker* I'm JK I know the answer alreadyWho would that be? *looks at Aerowyn*... I have no idea who could fit such a catagory. >.>
Perhaps, Aerowyn is the advertising! Aerowyn might be an Advertisement robot, an Ad-bot, created by NCSoft to convert the internet to Guild Wars 2!
Originally posted by Aerowynseems the BWEs was all the advertising they needed heh
^^This.With all the crazy hype of new games and subsequent hate crash, it wouldn't surprise me if the take the quiet road for launch with a steady build upwards.
Wouldn't this theory fly directly against the prevailing opinion on mmorpg.com (well the negative prevailing opinion) that GW2 is the most hyped MMO ever?
The most hyped, and least advertised AAA MMORPG ever? A weird combination in my opinion.
If it is least advertised, then who is doing all this hype? *snicker* I'm JK I know the answer already
Who would that be? *looks at Aerowyn*... I have no idea who could fit such a catagory. >.>
You mention Aerowyn more than Aerowyn mentions GW2.
wish i got paid for surfing the forums would be awsome:)
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Originally posted by MindTrigger The word of mouth on this game is ridiculous. My daughter plays WoW, and she says it's all anyone is talking about in her huge ass guild. I don't think spending a ton more money is going ot help much. If you haven't heard about GW2 by now, you will shortly after launch when your game clears out.
This
Word of mouth is selling it just fine. I expect more advertising next week though around the "Official" release date August 28th.
Originally posted by Aerowynseems the BWEs was all the advertising they needed heh
^^This.With all the crazy hype of new games and subsequent hate crash, it wouldn't surprise me if the take the quiet road for launch with a steady build upwards.
Wouldn't this theory fly directly against the prevailing opinion on mmorpg.com (well the negative prevailing opinion) that GW2 is the most hyped MMO ever?
The most hyped, and least advertised AAA MMORPG ever? A weird combination in my opinion.
If it is least advertised, then who is doing all this hype? *snicker* I'm JK I know the answer already
Who would that be? *looks at Aerowyn*... I have no idea who could fit such a catagory. >.>
You mention Aerowyn more than Aerowyn mentions GW2.
Because out of anyone Aerowyn is basically in any forum. Unless I feel strongly about something, or am in the right timing, I don't bother to post. By then she's got her grimy hands all over the thread and theres nothing much to cover unless I find someone easy to disagree with that I see hasn't been touched yet to a degree.
On topic: I feel like this game had enough advertisement throughout the BWEs/all the excitement (I don't want to use "that" word)/ and just word of mouth from everyone that advertisement seems pointless and unnecessary. I don't remember much advertisement for GW1, but then again, there wasn't much excitement about it either.
Originally posted by Quizzical Because if there's anything GW2 needs, it's more hype?
Well, as a B2P game, it could almost always use more sales.
This is what is REALLY confusing.
They have no recurring income beyond the maybe what, 30% of the playerbase that will spend money in the cash shop regularly (monthly.)
Spock, I'm trying to understand why you are freaking out about this, but I can't. The fact is, the entire MMO market likely knows all about it. I'm playing TSW, and my large guild is talking about it. Those few people who didn't know are now hearing about it daily in our guild chat. Same goes for my daughter's guild in WoW, and I'm sure every other MMO out there.
Who are they advertising to? Newcomers to the genre? Proabably not worth the money it would cost. Sounds like smart business to me. They can do some targeted online marketing after launch. People who will pre-purchase likely already did. We're also heading into the holiday season soon. It would be smarter to advertise then if they need to.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I think its possible that advertising doesn't help MMOs at all, and is really just a massive waste of money. There's plenty of hype around any major game release, and if people like it, word spreads like crazy ..and if people don't, advertising never does much to make up for it.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
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Well, that's it pretty much. It appears those reddit folk were all over that. It would stand to reason they are doing another marketing push next week with the launch. That in turn explains why there is nothing to see this week.
“We’re in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO. I think we have something unique here and players are going to see it and understand why dynamic events are a way better content model than people have experienced before in online worlds. Word-of-mouth will get people to understand that we really are doing something new and different. The sky’s the limit once this game is out. Online worlds have a networking effect. People will bring friends to Guild Wars 2. We hope all the people who play the beta weekend will tell their friends about it.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/04/23/arenanet-founder-mike-obrien-will-be-satisfied-when-guild-wars-2-is-the-most-successful-mmo-period/
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Yep
They don't need to
At this point the fans are essentailly marketing it for them anyways.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I understand the whole viral marketing word of mouth campaign etc. it's far, far cheaper and equally as effective (if your product is quality) but having just about zero "traditional" marketing?
I remember the pre-purchase/order marketing, they had it all over mmorpg.com too, but I am still shocked to be seeing nothing this close to launch.
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you can see in the article I posted on previous page Anet planned on using word of mouth from the BWEs
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
/checks Amazon Sales
It's working!!! >.>
Well, the likely scenarios are that the stress tests showed they can't take a hit of even MORE players initially...
... or that they ran out of money and were given the choice of more advertising budget or paychecks.
Because if there's anything GW2 needs, it's more hype?
Well, as a B2P game, it could almost always use more sales.
Who would that be? *looks at Aerowyn*... I have no idea who could fit such a catagory. >.>
This is what is REALLY confusing.
They have no recurring income beyond the maybe what, 30% of the playerbase that will spend money in the cash shop regularly (monthly.)
no clue what you are talking about :P heh.. but really it does take some pride in your product to allow word of mouth to be your #1 source of advertisement.. think you should link this to the OP
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/04/23/arenanet-founder-mike-obrien-will-be-satisfied-when-guild-wars-2-is-the-most-successful-mmo-period/
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Wouldn't this theory fly directly against the prevailing opinion on mmorpg.com (well the negative prevailing opinion) that GW2 is the most hyped MMO ever?
The most hyped, and least advertised AAA MMORPG ever? A weird combination in my opinion.
If it is least advertised, then who is doing all this hype? *snicker* I'm JK I know the answer already
Who would that be? *looks at Aerowyn*... I have no idea who could fit such a catagory. >.>
Perhaps, Aerowyn is the advertising! Aerowyn might be an Advertisement robot, an Ad-bot, created by NCSoft to convert the internet to Guild Wars 2!
You mention Aerowyn more than Aerowyn mentions GW2.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
This
Word of mouth is selling it just fine. I expect more advertising next week though around the "Official" release date August 28th.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
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From now on I will read every post by her in the Siri voice.
Because out of anyone Aerowyn is basically in any forum. Unless I feel strongly about something, or am in the right timing, I don't bother to post. By then she's got her grimy hands all over the thread and theres nothing much to cover unless I find someone easy to disagree with that I see hasn't been touched yet to a degree.
On topic: I feel like this game had enough advertisement throughout the BWEs/all the excitement (I don't want to use "that" word)/ and just word of mouth from everyone that advertisement seems pointless and unnecessary. I don't remember much advertisement for GW1, but then again, there wasn't much excitement about it either.
Spock, I'm trying to understand why you are freaking out about this, but I can't. The fact is, the entire MMO market likely knows all about it. I'm playing TSW, and my large guild is talking about it. Those few people who didn't know are now hearing about it daily in our guild chat. Same goes for my daughter's guild in WoW, and I'm sure every other MMO out there.
Who are they advertising to? Newcomers to the genre? Proabably not worth the money it would cost. Sounds like smart business to me. They can do some targeted online marketing after launch. People who will pre-purchase likely already did. We're also heading into the holiday season soon. It would be smarter to advertise then if they need to.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Psst even people from mars prepurchased GW2......servers will be flooded
They allready sold more then they can handle..
They will probably nopt start advertising untill sales drop.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.