If I want challenging game play I'll go play something like TSW.
There's something difficult in TSW?
Originally posted by abyss404
On other matters, anyone who said this wasn't too easy... L2P.
Anyone saying that TSW is hard needs to learn to play... oops, see what I did here...
Right, because of the number of people on these forums quitting TSW because it was too hard. And yet the majority of the difficulty posts about GW2 have been about claiming how easy it is. *Pat pat* There there, one day you'll learn how to counter a post.
what about those of us who didnt buy it because all three factions share 75%+ of their starting experience.. the amount of lazy in that game is reidiculous. Oh question did they ever fix the guy with the sidewalk chalk tattoos who lets you in to be raped for the dragons intro?
The lower level conetent is understandably easy, you are trying to get the basics of your new character. I was worried about it being a little too easy at first but as I approached level 20 multiple times on 3 toons over the beta period, I noticed the difficulty level slowly ratchet up and it began to get challenging in some of the DE's. I repeated 1 DE in particular a few times since it was pretty fun, where the random group that I was around wiped a few times on the last stage of it where a big boss came out. People started coordinating in local chat and eventually we got him down. After that I went into the 17+ char zone and went to do a skill point challenge on my warrior, only to have my ass handed to me. I'm not super L33T but I do know what I'm doing and how to play.
Sure, many basic fights against solo mobs are not exactly hard. But things can get very ugly very fast if you just run into the front lines of an event or are in bad luck and get targeted by a mass of ranged mobs (and forget to dodge / don't have the endurance).
Some event bosses, like the Fire Elemental in the Asura area, have been complained about because they have several 1-shot abilities that blow you sky high if you don't keep on moving 100% of the time (which might not be possible in huge zergs).
That boss has cheap difficulty imo, being 1 shotted by stuff that it sometimes instant and can't be avoided isn't enjoyable difficulty.
Guess what?
If you actually take a few friends with you, and understand how to co-ordinate amongst yourselves, you can support each other and completely avoid situations like the one you described!
Guild Wars is, in both the PvE and PvP aspects, all about co-ordination among you and your teammates.
What? Like having cat like reflexes to activate stability when that splash hits so you don't take the 2nd dot and the like? Yes I know there are ways to do it and with a coordinated team on voip it's not such a big deal, but 1 shot mechanics are still cheap unless they have windup timers/animations or something to see them comming.
This is very important. For everyone posting that this game is too easy, please post your comparison as to why you think its too easy. The reason I mention this, is because when you make a statement about something on a game with little information or evidence your statement loses credibility. So, please post your sources and thoughts as to why you feel gw2 is too easy. Otherwise you will not be taken seriously.
From my experiance (which is minimal) in a stress test or 2 and after watching an endless amount of videos. I have come to the conclusion that this games difficulty adjusts based on you. What I mean is, that the game can be easy or hard depending on how ou decide to play it.
All previous MMO's are exactly the same way, where the player decides how difficult the game will be. You can argue this until your blue in the face but it is a fact. I came from EQ originally and while it doesnt have an easy learning curve, the game is easy to play once you learn how to play it. The same goes with Eve.
GW2 offers the players an opportunity to create their own adventure by offering a list of different things they can do in the world. It is not the games fault that players choose to stay in a zerg and face roll, that is your choice. Get a group of players and go try something else, or go to a higher level mob for more action. There are ways around your assumed ez mode.
Those are my thoughts so far, now as far as end game goes ... no one here has played it or seen it aside from mock demos and dev videos. I suggest waiting for game release to fully critic it. Lots of updates and such from Anet.
One of the things I did in the last weekend event was run around with a ranged weapon multiple classes and facerolled 1-5 key while watching a movie on second screen. I got gold rating and never died in all events.
This game is not too easy - For Melee Specs Only. Otherwise you can pretty much do every event up to 30 at least half sleep and not even trying.
Ofcourse you can... Ranged specs are so OP, it's so darn easy to play this game... All you have to do is run around and kill some bad npcs and not to mention the npcs are so damn easy to kill, you target them and *boom* they're already on the ground... Faceroll FTW! pew-pew, zug-zug, and all that other crap, you know
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life." -------------------------------
This is very important. For everyone posting that this game is too easy, please post your comparison as to why you think its too easy. The reason I mention this, is because when you make a statement about something on a game with little information or evidence your statement loses credibility. So, please post your sources and thoughts as to why you feel gw2 is too easy. Otherwise you will not be taken seriously.
From my experiance (which is minimal) in a stress test or 2 and after watching an endless amount of videos. I have come to the conclusion that this games difficulty adjusts based on you. What I mean is, that the game can be easy or hard depending on how ou decide to play it.
All previous MMO's are exactly the same way, where the player decides how difficult the game will be. You can argue this until your blue in the face but it is a fact. I came from EQ originally and while it doesnt have an easy learning curve, the game is easy to play once you learn how to play it. The same goes with Eve.
GW2 offers the players an opportunity to create their own adventure by offering a list of different things they can do in the world. It is not the games fault that players choose to stay in a zerg and face roll, that is your choice. Get a group of players and go try something else, or go to a higher level mob for more action. There are ways around your assumed ez mode.
Those are my thoughts so far, now as far as end game goes ... no one here has played it or seen it aside from mock demos and dev videos. I suggest waiting for game release to fully critic it. Lots of updates and such from Anet.
Sadly the OP brought the kindle and walked away while the rest of us started the fire. Now we got a whole forest ablaze while the OP is off to probably set another somewhere rather than going "Oh, well I put that kindle there for [reasons here]. Not my fault you started this fire."
This whole thread was an obvious troll and everyone fell into it. He gives no real footage, no real explanations of what he saw, no comparisons... If this is a true post like the last "game is too easy because I watched videos" that I killed before, then he would come back for clarification and to make this a discussion. Sadly its just burning and I doubt even Smokey can put out this forest fire. Until OP even comes back, this thread is worthless.
Ranged classes are so easy in this game I had two DEs completed before I even logged my character into the game.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
One of the things I did in the last weekend event was run around with a ranged weapon multiple classes and facerolled 1-5 key while watching a movie on second screen. I got gold rating and never died in all events.
This game is not too easy - For Melee Specs Only. Otherwise you can pretty much do every event up to 30 at least half sleep and not even trying.
Ofcourse you can... Ranged classes are so OP, it's so darn easy to play this game... All you have to do is run around and kill some bad npcs and not to mention the npcs are so damn easy to kill, you target them and *boom* they're already on the ground... Faceroll FTW! pew-pew, zug-zug, and all that other crap, you know
This isn't cookie cutter game like WoW. Whats a ranged class? Oh thats right, everything can be ranged...
One of the things I did in the last weekend event was run around with a ranged weapon multiple classes and facerolled 1-5 key while watching a movie on second screen. I got gold rating and never died in all events.
This game is not too easy - For Melee Specs Only. Otherwise you can pretty much do every event up to 30 at least half sleep and not even trying.
Ofcourse you can... Ranged classes are so OP, it's so darn easy to play this game... All you have to do is run around and kill some bad npcs and not to mention the npcs are so damn easy to kill, you target them and *boom* they're already on the ground... Faceroll FTW! pew-pew, zug-zug, and all that other crap, you know
This isn't cookie cutter game like WoW. Whats a ranged class? Oh thats right, everything can be ranged...
Error noted, thanks for pointing it out in this sarcasticly toned reply... -.-'
EDIT: I fixed it, should be correct now.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life." -------------------------------
One of the things I did in the last weekend event was run around with a ranged weapon multiple classes and facerolled 1-5 key while watching a movie on second screen. I got gold rating and never died in all events.
This game is not too easy - For Melee Specs Only. Otherwise you can pretty much do every event up to 30 at least half sleep and not even trying.
Ofcourse you can... Ranged classes are so OP, it's so darn easy to play this game... All you have to do is run around and kill some bad npcs and not to mention the npcs are so damn easy to kill, you target them and *boom* they're already on the ground... Faceroll FTW! pew-pew, zug-zug, and all that other crap, you know
This isn't cookie cutter game like WoW. Whats a ranged class? Oh thats right, everything can be ranged...
Error noted, thanks for pointing it out in this sarcasticly toned reply... -.-'
EDIT: I fixed it, should be correct now.
Lol
/shakes head
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
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Of course I'll be playing GW2 and am excited for this weekend just like everybody else.
what about those of us who didnt buy it because all three factions share 75%+ of their starting experience.. the amount of lazy in that game is reidiculous. Oh question did they ever fix the guy with the sidewalk chalk tattoos who lets you in to be raped for the dragons intro?
What? Like having cat like reflexes to activate stability when that splash hits so you don't take the 2nd dot and the like? Yes I know there are ways to do it and with a coordinated team on voip it's not such a big deal, but 1 shot mechanics are still cheap unless they have windup timers/animations or something to see them comming.
This is very important. For everyone posting that this game is too easy, please post your comparison as to why you think its too easy. The reason I mention this, is because when you make a statement about something on a game with little information or evidence your statement loses credibility. So, please post your sources and thoughts as to why you feel gw2 is too easy. Otherwise you will not be taken seriously.
From my experiance (which is minimal) in a stress test or 2 and after watching an endless amount of videos. I have come to the conclusion that this games difficulty adjusts based on you. What I mean is, that the game can be easy or hard depending on how ou decide to play it.
All previous MMO's are exactly the same way, where the player decides how difficult the game will be. You can argue this until your blue in the face but it is a fact. I came from EQ originally and while it doesnt have an easy learning curve, the game is easy to play once you learn how to play it. The same goes with Eve.
GW2 offers the players an opportunity to create their own adventure by offering a list of different things they can do in the world. It is not the games fault that players choose to stay in a zerg and face roll, that is your choice. Get a group of players and go try something else, or go to a higher level mob for more action. There are ways around your assumed ez mode.
Those are my thoughts so far, now as far as end game goes ... no one here has played it or seen it aside from mock demos and dev videos. I suggest waiting for game release to fully critic it. Lots of updates and such from Anet.
Ofcourse you can... Ranged specs are so OP, it's so darn easy to play this game... All you have to do is run around and kill some bad npcs and not to mention the npcs are so damn easy to kill, you target them and *boom* they're already on the ground... Faceroll FTW! pew-pew, zug-zug, and all that other crap, you know
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Sadly the OP brought the kindle and walked away while the rest of us started the fire. Now we got a whole forest ablaze while the OP is off to probably set another somewhere rather than going "Oh, well I put that kindle there for [reasons here]. Not my fault you started this fire."
This whole thread was an obvious troll and everyone fell into it. He gives no real footage, no real explanations of what he saw, no comparisons... If this is a true post like the last "game is too easy because I watched videos" that I killed before, then he would come back for clarification and to make this a discussion. Sadly its just burning and I doubt even Smokey can put out this forest fire. Until OP even comes back, this thread is worthless.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
This isn't cookie cutter game like WoW. Whats a ranged class? Oh thats right, everything can be ranged...
Error noted, thanks for pointing it out in this sarcasticly toned reply... -.-'
EDIT: I fixed it, should be correct now.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
-------------------------------
Lol
/shakes head
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.