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Why are so many complaining about "launch"

chopstix906chopstix906 Member Posts: 60

The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers. There are two reasons why it is not going as smoothly as some hoped. 1. Head start is necessary to solve issues before the entire player base starts playing. 2. This is probably the highest population head start of the year. There are a ton of people participating so it's not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller head starts other games had. Have some patience and understanding. Wait until the actual launch before you criticise.

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  • Atlan99Atlan99 Member UncommonPosts: 1,332

    Can't login into their forums.

    Can't use the trading post.

    That's why I'm a tiny bit miffed. It's not the end of the world but it's definitely annoying.

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by chopstix906

    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers. There are two reasons why it is not going as smoothly as some hoped. 1. Head start is necessary to solve issues before the entire player base starts playing. 2. This is probably the highest population head start of the year. There are a ton of people participating so it's not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller head starts other games had. Have some patience and understanding. Wait until the actual launch before you criticise.

    Only in mmo-land can you get away with saying this..if this was any other product on the planet people would be going mad but because it's an mmo you have to accept it. This very same problem occured in bwe1 they should have been prepared. It's europe that has been down all day just like it was in bwe1.

  • AshengrayAshengray Member UncommonPosts: 10
    Agreed. It really is a great game but i have to say, I'm really disappointed with how difficult it is to log in now. I have been booted out 6 times already. Not good Anet.:(
  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257

    Lol it's actually funny how GW2 fanbois want to spin it. You can name launch every way you like but it's still launch. Early access given with preorders.

    Disclaimer: I don't and most probably won't never play GW2 but I wish it all well.

  • GhavriggGhavrigg Member RarePosts: 1,308
    Originally posted by Atlan99

    Can't login into their forums.

    Can't use the trading post.

    That's why I'm a tiny bit miffed. It's not the end of the world but it's definitely annoying.

    Sounds like a very strange reason to be upset. You can play the game, but you can't log into the forums, or use the auction house? Neither of which, I assume, would even be all that necessary this early.

  • GhavriggGhavrigg Member RarePosts: 1,308
    Originally posted by Piiritus

    Disclaimer: I don't and most probably won't never play GW2 but I wish it all well.

    Just a heads up, but "won't never" means that you WILL play it. 

  • CalerxesCalerxes Member UncommonPosts: 1,641
    Originally posted by chopstix906

    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers. There are two reasons why it is not going as smoothly as some hoped. 1. Head start is necessary to solve issues before the entire player base starts playing. 2. This is probably the highest population head start of the year. There are a ton of people participating so it's not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller head starts other games had. Have some patience and understanding. Wait until the actual launch before you criticise.

     

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  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Ashengray
    Agreed. It really is a great game but i have to say, I'm really disappointed with how difficult it is to log in now. I have been booted out 6 times already. Not good Anet.:(

    Saying you won't ever play it because the first day was bad is a bit childish. it's a fantastic game and you'll be missing out. i just wish arena net learned from bwe1 which obviously they didn't and it's a bit of a disappointing to see the same problem arise again with europe.

  • LucioonLucioon Member UncommonPosts: 819
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by chopstix906

    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers. There are two reasons why it is not going as smoothly as some hoped. 1. Head start is necessary to solve issues before the entire player base starts playing. 2. This is probably the highest population head start of the year. There are a ton of people participating so it's not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller head starts other games had. Have some patience and understanding. Wait until the actual launch before you criticise.

    Only in mmo-land can you get away with saying this..if this was any other product on the planet people would be going mad but because it's an mmo you have to accept it. This very same problem occured in bwe1 they should have been prepared. It's europe that has been down all day just like it was in bwe1.

    people is complaining because they took the server down. 

    But won't we want them to take the server down so that they can get it fixed so that when its back up you get to play without issues??

    I don't get it, when the game companies get right ontop of the issues and create fixes isn't that a really really good thing??

    Problems will always occur, its the speed in which they can react to the problems that defines if they are a good gaming company or not. 

    I personally would want them to do everything in their power to fix the issues, if it means the server will be down for 10 hours so be it, as long as its down so that they can fix what ever caused the problems. 

    Its the same thing for every single product in the world, if a product fails, as long as they do everything in their power to rectify it then its good, if they know there is a problem but they aren't willing to fix it then its bad. 

    Currently Anet fixed the problems and servers is up for many people. Is it an 100% fix, no one knows, so they want people to log in, and notify them if there is any reoccuring problems. Isn't that what a good company do, fix it and then listen if the fix fixes the problems.

    SO WHATS WRONG??? 

    Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Lucioon
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by chopstix906

    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers. There are two reasons why it is not going as smoothly as some hoped. 1. Head start is necessary to solve issues before the entire player base starts playing. 2. This is probably the highest population head start of the year. There are a ton of people participating so it's not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller head starts other games had. Have some patience and understanding. Wait until the actual launch before you criticise.

    Only in mmo-land can you get away with saying this..if this was any other product on the planet people would be going mad but because it's an mmo you have to accept it. This very same problem occured in bwe1 they should have been prepared. It's europe that has been down all day just like it was in bwe1.

    people is complaining because they took the server down. 

    But won't we want them to take the server down so that they can get it fixed so that when its back up you get to play without issues??

    I don't get it, when the game companies get right ontop of the issues and create fixes isn't that a really really good thing??

    Problems will always occur, its the speed in which they can react to the problems that defines if they are a good gaming company or not. 

    I personally would want them to do everything in their power to fix the issues, if it means the server will be down for 10 hours so be it, as long as its down so that they can fix what ever caused the problems. 

    Its the same thing for every single product in the world, if a product fails, as long as they do everything in their power to rectify it then its good, if they know there is a problem but they aren't willing to fix it then its bad. 

    Currently Anet fixed the problems and servers is up for many people. Is it an 100% fix, no one knows, so they want people to log in, and notify them if there is any reoccuring problems. Isn't that what a good company do, fix it and then listen if the fix fixes the problems.

    SO WHATS WRONG??? 

    well because the exact same thing happened in bwe1, it's the same error and it should have been sorted by now. i understand there will be problems but i am allowed  to voice my opinion of the experience so far, or are you of the mind that i should sit down and shut up? if nobody complained arena net wouldn't know about the problems players are having.

  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257
    Originally posted by Aviggin
    Originally posted by Piiritus

    Disclaimer: I don't and most probably won't never play GW2 but I wish it all well.

    Just a heads up, but "won't never" means that you WILL play it. 

    Actually why not. If it gets good reviews from normal people, not fanbois polluting mmorpg.com, then I may buy it. Will wait until next year though and see if I can be interested in fantasy MMOs again.

  • 3-4thElf3-4thElf Member Posts: 489

    Fish bowl memories.

    All of these games have a few hours of high traffic oddness. Even SWTOR had it for their early access.

    The game doesn't LAUNCH until Tuesday. Then valid critisism will have its place.

    a yo ho ho

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Piiritus
    Originally posted by Aviggin
    Originally posted by Piiritus

    Disclaimer: I don't and most probably won't never play GW2 but I wish it all well.

    Just a heads up, but "won't never" means that you WILL play it. 

    Actually why not. If it gets good reviews from normal people, not fanbois polluting mmorpg.com, then I may buy it. Will wait until next year though and see if I can be interested in fantasy MMOs again.

    I would highly recommend buying it, it's 60 bucks and no sub you really don't have anything to lose.

  • TruthXHurtsTruthXHurts Member UncommonPosts: 1,555
    Because the world has become full of whiny brats with a inflated sense of entitlement? I can only hope for a cataclysm that will wipe the Earth clean.

    "I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by TruthXHurts
    Because the world has become full of whiny brats with a inflated sense of entitlement? I can only hope for a cataclysm that will wipe the Earth clean.

    well if you pay for something that gives you a sense of entitlement, if you're car broke down on the first day would you just say "ah it might work tomorrow", no you'd go straight back to the shop and complain. For some reason mmo's get a free pass. Don't get me wrong i think the game is great and expect problems at launch but this is the same problem that happened in june it should have been fix by now.

  • BetakodoBetakodo Member UncommonPosts: 333
    Originally posted by TruthXHurts
    Because the world has become full of whiny brats with a inflated sense of entitlement? I can only hope for a cataclysm that will wipe the Earth clean.

    Yeah, it's not like anyone is entitled to anything because nobody paid $60 to access the game now right? Whining about Whiners? More like Fanboys covering for Anet again despite people's valid complaints.

  • LucioonLucioon Member UncommonPosts: 819
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by Lucioon
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by chopstix906

    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers. There are two reasons why it is not going as smoothly as some hoped. 1. Head start is necessary to solve issues before the entire player base starts playing. 2. This is probably the highest population head start of the year. There are a ton of people participating so it's not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller head starts other games had. Have some patience and understanding. Wait until the actual launch before you criticise.

    Only in mmo-land can you get away with saying this..if this was any other product on the planet people would be going mad but because it's an mmo you have to accept it. This very same problem occured in bwe1 they should have been prepared. It's europe that has been down all day just like it was in bwe1.

    people is complaining because they took the server down. 

    But won't we want them to take the server down so that they can get it fixed so that when its back up you get to play without issues??

    I don't get it, when the game companies get right ontop of the issues and create fixes isn't that a really really good thing??

    Problems will always occur, its the speed in which they can react to the problems that defines if they are a good gaming company or not. 

    I personally would want them to do everything in their power to fix the issues, if it means the server will be down for 10 hours so be it, as long as its down so that they can fix what ever caused the problems. 

    Its the same thing for every single product in the world, if a product fails, as long as they do everything in their power to rectify it then its good, if they know there is a problem but they aren't willing to fix it then its bad. 

    Currently Anet fixed the problems and servers is up for many people. Is it an 100% fix, no one knows, so they want people to log in, and notify them if there is any reoccuring problems. Isn't that what a good company do, fix it and then listen if the fix fixes the problems.

    SO WHATS WRONG??? 

    well because the exact same thing happened in bwe1, it's the same error and it should have been sorted by now. i understand there will be problems but i am allowed  to voice my opinion of the experience so far, or are you of the mind that i should sit down and shut up? if nobody complained arena net wouldn't know about the problems players are having.

    you can ofcourse voice your opinions, it definitly sucks that you love the game but can't play.

    But complaining like Yamata that you are pissed because they took away some of the 72 hours of head start for taking the server down is just plain weird.

    They took it down to fix it, I didn't get any errors that I experienced during BWE1 but you did so I can't voice any criticism on that. But complaining like many do on the 3 day head start is just weird, its been what 9 hours since its official launch. 

    If you add 3 hours for their extra 3 hours they have given you its been 12 hours. 

    I logged in at 1:30 am EST, played for 3 hours till 4:30 am, no issues, was very smooth. 

    Many also was able to play till 8am , so the server was shut down for 3~4 hours for fixes and the server is back up for what I am told since I am stuck at work.

    So if you subtract the extra 3 hours from their 4 hours of server downtime, you only lost 1 hours of game play. 

    Of course its for US only, because I am in US and can't experience the European server problems. 

    And of course its only my own personal experience. 

    So complaining about Server being down is kinda weird, they did it not because they want to piss you off, they did it to make sure people can log in properly. 

    Complaining about not being able to play is totally legit. But you gotta be reasonable.

    Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Lucioon
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by Lucioon
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by chopstix906

    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers. There are two reasons why it is not going as smoothly as some hoped. 1. Head start is necessary to solve issues before the entire player base starts playing. 2. This is probably the highest population head start of the year. There are a ton of people participating so it's not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller head starts other games had. Have some patience and understanding. Wait until the actual launch before you criticise.

    Only in mmo-land can you get away with saying this..if this was any other product on the planet people would be going mad but because it's an mmo you have to accept it. This very same problem occured in bwe1 they should have been prepared. It's europe that has been down all day just like it was in bwe1.

    people is complaining because they took the server down. 

    But won't we want them to take the server down so that they can get it fixed so that when its back up you get to play without issues??

    I don't get it, when the game companies get right ontop of the issues and create fixes isn't that a really really good thing??

    Problems will always occur, its the speed in which they can react to the problems that defines if they are a good gaming company or not. 

    I personally would want them to do everything in their power to fix the issues, if it means the server will be down for 10 hours so be it, as long as its down so that they can fix what ever caused the problems. 

    Its the same thing for every single product in the world, if a product fails, as long as they do everything in their power to rectify it then its good, if they know there is a problem but they aren't willing to fix it then its bad. 

    Currently Anet fixed the problems and servers is up for many people. Is it an 100% fix, no one knows, so they want people to log in, and notify them if there is any reoccuring problems. Isn't that what a good company do, fix it and then listen if the fix fixes the problems.

    SO WHATS WRONG??? 

    well because the exact same thing happened in bwe1, it's the same error and it should have been sorted by now. i understand there will be problems but i am allowed  to voice my opinion of the experience so far, or are you of the mind that i should sit down and shut up? if nobody complained arena net wouldn't know about the problems players are having.

    you can ofcourse voice your opinions, it definitly sucks that you love the game but can't play.

    But complaining like Yamata that you are pissed because they took away some of the 72 hours of head start for taking the server down is just plain weird.

    They took it down to fix it, I didn't get any errors that I experienced during BWE1 but you did so I can't voice any criticism on that. But complaining like many do on the 3 day head start is just weird, its been what 9 hours since its official launch. 

    If you add 3 hours for their extra 3 hours they have given you its been 12 hours. 

    I logged in at 1:30 am EST, played for 3 hours till 4:30 am, no issues, was very smooth. 

    Many also was able to play till 8am , so the server was shut down for 3~4 hours for fixes and the server is back up for what I am told since I am stuck at work.

    So if you subtract the extra 3 hours from their 4 hours of server downtime, you only lost 1 hours of game play. 

    Of course its for US only, because I am in US and can't experience the European server problems. 

    And of course its only my own personal experience. 

    So complaining about Server being down is kinda weird, they did it not because they want to piss you off, they did it to make sure people can log in properly. 

    Complaining about not being able to play is totally legit. But you gotta be reasonable.

    I haven't been able to log on at all mate and i got up at 5am.

  • Atlan99Atlan99 Member UncommonPosts: 1,332
    Originally posted by Aviggin

    Sounds like a very strange reason to be upset. You can play the game, but you can't log into the forums, or use the auction house? Neither of which, I assume, would even be all that necessary this early.

    Your assumption is wrong. Make better assumptions.

  • LucioonLucioon Member UncommonPosts: 819

    Like i said, I can only give you my own experience and can't speak for others. 

    It does suck that you can't log in and play. 

    But from what I heard, they already got all the log in problems fixed, you don't even see a post regarding about unable to log in anymore.

    Pretty much if you are able to play, people is playing, if you are stuck at work, like myself, then you are stuck at the forums reading these posts. ( kinda fun )

    If you are from Europe, then yeah, that was one of the biggest issues that I can't say anything about since I am from the US. 

    Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.

  • BadaboomBadaboom Member UncommonPosts: 2,380
    This launch has been great, with 0 problems for me.  Never seen so many people in an MMO before.
  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904


    Originally posted by chopstix906
    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers.

    False. If you have evidence to the contrary provide it.

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  • SaintPhilipSaintPhilip Member Posts: 713

    No problem- Anet should postpone the LAUNCH and still give the people PROMISED a "headstart" the same amount of time they would have gotten if the servers were properly working.

    If its okay to sell pre orders with a promised head start (and then not really get a "head start") its even MORE okay to poistpone the launch for everyone else to KEEP the promise. Right?

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Nitth

     


    Originally posted by chopstix906
    The misconception I think most people have is that this is not a launch at all. It's a head start. The point of a head start is to have a smaller number of players to stress test the servers.

     

    False. If you have evidence to the contrary provide it.

    i would say the same to you

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  • UrkoUrko Member Posts: 88

    I paid extra* in England to have this early launch.

     

    *official ANET extra

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