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  • NaughtyPNaughtyP Member UncommonPosts: 793
    Originally posted by Warcannibal
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  • NikkitaNikkita Member Posts: 790
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    If anyone is interested, major gw2 fanbois ten ton hammer and euro gamer Italy just gave gw2 a 94/100 and a 100/100 respectively.  Must have been paid off I guess.

    Don't need to pay idiots who rate any MMO 10/10. What nonsense.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    9.36/10 on mmorpg.com... crushing any game released since WoW (and possibly even WoW, I wasn't reading this website back then I think).

    'nuff said.

    Hype, not ratings....

    Ratings now.

    How in the world are you going to rate games with 2 days played?  Take them for what they are worth.

    Expect the scores to drop some in the next month or three.

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch Member Posts: 488

    It won't let me post my review and I spent like 5 minutes writing it and I don't want that to be wasted so I'll post it here.

     

    I've played to 30 twice now, once in the beta and now once at launch, I enjoyed beta because it was less chaotic. Here are my opinions.

    I'll start with PvP because that'll be shortest, I don't PvP much in MMOs. I did find it enjoyable though, it's more than just spam your keys, but 8v8 can and will turn into a **** Anyone who takes PvP seriously should try 5v5, the maps are DESIGNED for 5v5. WvWvW is fun too, but can become a zerg, even if you don't want to zerg you'll find yourself following it, I know that actually splitting up is better and I hope people actually start to split up.

    I've played PvE a lot more though.
    I really like the DE system, makes the world feel alive and is MUCH MUCH more fun than going to X, killing Y and returning, damn even if babies think "Well you still gotta kill things, it's the same!", it really isn't, you have to look at the big picture. My only issue is some of them respawn too quickly.
    Exploration is rewarding, while there's POIs and vistas, some you actually gotta look for, and I actually want to look for them, it's fun, sometimes you get carried away and get lost, more games need to do this.
    Some people are upset about the skill system, but I disagree, I enjoy having all my abilities at once. (By the way, there are builds still, people don't realize this because they probably haven't unlocked traits and most skills". Eventually you start to learn how to play your weapon, it makes a lot of classes play different, a sword mesmer and a greatsword mesmer plays very different. My real only issue was how slow EXP can come in, people can rush, and some people can go really slow, it's all based on time, if there's dynamic events going on, etc.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    If anyone is interested, major gw2 fanbois ten ton hammer and euro gamer Italy just gave gw2 a 94/100 and a 100/100 respectively.  Must have been paid off I guess.

    ER yeah, glad you pointed it out, if I had people would have called me a hater.

    C'mon seroiusly, 10/10, there's nothing wrong with the game at all? It's absolutely perfect?

    Nonsense, it's not even 94/100 either...these places are being ridiculous.

     

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

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  • NikkitaNikkita Member Posts: 790
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Really? The you're just angry and emotional defense?  Are you married :)?

    Atleast that would be a genuine reason to moan and complain about.

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Really? The you're just angry and emotional defense?  Are you married :)?

    Atleast that would be a genuine reason to moan and complain about.

    Soooo moaning about my post is genuine?  Ahhhh metacomplaining ;).

    Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403
    Originally posted by Tardcore

    Hate to tell you this but that's human nature. You either like something or you don't.

    No TC, bifurcation is not "human nature".  It's simply a hallmark of bad rhetoric (and bad politics...heh). And well, teenagers.

    I like cheesesteak.  I like bacon.  I like bacon, in fact more than cheesesteak.  I am ambivalent to cottage cheese.  I am opposed to trendy California cuisine, particularly avacado.  I am more opposed to brussel sprouts.  Won't walk into the same room with a bowl of chitlins.

    Not black and white.  Scales of grey.

    Speaking of cheesesteak, time to make lunch.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    If anyone is interested, major gw2 fanbois ten ton hammer and euro gamer Italy just gave gw2 a 94/100 and a 100/100 respectively.  Must have been paid off I guess.

     I'll say the same thing when sites gave out ridiculous scores for the like of SWTOR, War,, AOC, etc. I have no idea if they're getting paid. What I do know is that their review is over inflatede to anyone that played the game and the fact that they once again already have a review for the game is asinine. Nothing new or surprising there.

    Which is a shame because this game does probably deserve a higher score than those. Guess when you give the likes of the earlier games I mentioned such fucked up elevated scores though you don't really have much room to work with

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • dirtyd77dirtyd77 Member UncommonPosts: 383

     

    Originally posted by Icewhite

      Won't walk into the same room with a bowl of chitlins.

    mmmmmmmmmmmmm chitlins....... now your making me hungry.... now only if we have some gizzards to go with them.

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    If anyone is interested, major gw2 fanbois ten ton hammer and euro gamer Italy just gave gw2 a 94/100 and a 100/100 respectively.  Must have been paid off I guess.

     I'll say the same thing when sites gave out ridiculous scores for the like of SWTOR, War,, AOC, etc. I have no idea if they're getting paid. What I do know is that their review is over inflatede to anyone that played the game and the fact that they once again already have a review for the game is asinine. Nothing new or surprising there.

    Which is a shame because this game does probably deserve a higher score than those. Guess when you give the likes of the earlier games I mentioned such fucked up elevated scores though you don't really have much room to work with

    94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

    Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  • ValuaValua Member Posts: 520
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    So I was reading some user review on metacritic, and I basically relearned why user reviews are generally completely unreliable.  I know that GW2 has some flaws...but just look at some of these quotes from negative reviews:

    "Unfortunately this is about the same as Guild Wars 1 so not exactly sequel-worthy." 2/10

    "The overflow system is a disgrace. PvE is ripped from Warhammer," 2/10

    "It's supposed to be the second coming of Jesus Christ in gaming history. Instead we are left with a game, that tries to do innovative stuff, but unfortunately fail miserably. Once you're past all that shine and glimmer, you'll see the game for what it is: A good RPG. Nothing more, nothing less." 3/10 (a good RPG gets 3/10...really?)

    "Mediocer graphics, buggy gameplay, server congestion, how can you seriously give this piece of cr** a good grade?" 0/10

    "10/10 ? no game is worth 10/10 unless you're a fanboi, specially one with so many basic problems.. It's tries so much, taking the best bits of other games and molding them together but only manages to totally drop the ball. Same old generic fantasy world thats been seen countless times, cutesy WoWlite graphic's that while not bad scream childish." 0/10 

    Really?

     

    Have you read the 10/10 ones too? Theres so many more of them, and lets be honest, no game in the past 20 years has deserved a 10/10, especially not Guild Wars 2.

     

    Idiots on both ends sadly.

  • NikkitaNikkita Member Posts: 790
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Really? The you're just angry and emotional defense?  Are you married :)?

    Atleast that would be a genuine reason to moan and complain about.

    Soooo moaning about my post is genuine?  Ahhhh metacomplaining ;).

    That is what you call moaning?  I am just trying to bring some balance and reasoning in this topic. Since fanboys as well as haters are incapable of rational thoughts. 

     

     

    Originally posted by Creslin321
    94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

    It is only fair isn't it? since you called people in your OP idiots too for having an opinion?

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

     Wow you sure are defensive about this Cres. Yeah...I think it is pushing it because as I said I question how much of the game they've seen. So yeah...it is ridiculous to me. Highly doubt they made it real far in game and there are some issues going on as well as some that weren't even resolved by the time of their review.

    You can call me a hater if you like :P nomnomnom

    /dance

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by RebelScum99
    Originally posted by jblah
    Hmm.... They seemed legit when it was other games in the spotlight.

    Yup.

     Yeah but this is GW2! Man! Of course its different! Man!

    Seriously this always happens. Love how some that heckled others and other games are getting all up in arms now though. Amusing to watch.

    I agree 100%

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Really? The you're just angry and emotional defense?  Are you married :)?

    Atleast that would be a genuine reason to moan and complain about.

    Soooo moaning about my post is genuine?  Ahhhh metacomplaining ;).

    That is what you call moaning?  I am just trying to bring some balance and reasoning in this topic. Since fanboys as well as haters are incapable of rational thoughts. 

     

     

    Originally posted by Creslin321
    94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

    It is only fair isn't it? since you called people in your OP idiots too for having an opinion?

    I called them idiots for giving a score tto same score to GW2 that I would have given to Duke nukem forever or the spawn video game for PS.  I called them idiots for having absolutely no perspective.

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  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257

    Got box for nice pice and tried the game. Well, it's beautiful and fun as a sidekick but man that story they have wrote is god awful. My necro was so good that I was unable to continue with that toon and just deleted it. Much worse than Republic side in SWTOR...and that was supposed to be a necro image

    Without a sub it's an OK game but I'd never pay a sub for this one. I just think that games like FE and especially TSW have spoiled me. Haven't checked PvP in GW2 yet though but will do.

    Overall I'd give GW2 a solid 8.5 for game design but no more than 3 for story writing because I think that part was done by a couple of 12 year olds. Waaaaaay overhyped but I don't regret my purchase and will play it as a good sidekick as I said above.

    P.S. Anyone else gets annoyed by floating movement and weird camera?

  • NikkitaNikkita Member Posts: 790
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Really? The you're just angry and emotional defense?  Are you married :)?

    Atleast that would be a genuine reason to moan and complain about.

    Soooo moaning about my post is genuine?  Ahhhh metacomplaining ;).

    That is what you call moaning?  I am just trying to bring some balance and reasoning in this topic. Since fanboys as well as haters are incapable of rational thoughts. 

     

     

    Originally posted by Creslin321
    94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

    It is only fair isn't it? since you called people in your OP idiots too for having an opinion?

    I called them idiots for giving a score tto same score to GW2 that I would have given to Duke nukem forever or the spawn video game for PS.  I called them idiots for having absolutely no perspective.

    And saying it is quite allright for GW2 to have 10/10 is what you call having a prespective? please!!  

    My opinions is better than yours and if you disagree with me you are idiots...that is the gist of what you have been posting here.

    *rolls eyes*.

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

     Wow you sure are defensive about this Cres. Yeah...I think it is pushing it because as I said I question how much of the game they've seen. So yeah...it is ridiculous to me. Highly doubt they made it real far in game and there are some issues going on as well as some that weren't even resolved by the time of their review.

    You can call me a hater if you like :P nomnomnom

    /dance

    This is the second time I've gotten the "whoa calm down buddy" argument lol.  Which is annoying because if you respond to it, then that's proof that you're being defensive or whatever.  And if you don't respond to it...then well, the other guy gets in the last word and basically wins.  Now that, that is out of the way...

    I am annoyed because it seems like many folks on this site apply a general rule to every video game that nothing ever deserves a high score, and if you believe that any game deserves a high score, then you are a fanboi.  The same can be said for low score and "hater."

    I however, like to examine games on a case by case basis instead of applying some kind of general rule, and expecting every poster to be basically ambivalent towards every care.  My prediction is that GW2 deserves and will receive a metacritic score in the 90's.  If I'm wrong, then you can gloat.  If I'm right, then it pretty much validates everything I have said.

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  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by RebelScum99
    Originally posted by jblah
    Hmm.... They seemed legit when it was other games in the spotlight.

    Yup.

     Yeah but this is GW2! Man! Of course its different! Man!

    Seriously this always happens. Love how some that heckled others and other games are getting all up in arms now though. Amusing to watch.

    I agree 100%

    Seems to indicate that these posts are more personally motivated than anyone's willing to admit, doesn't it?

    I don't like that guy.  He's con.  I'll go pro-, and begin the post with calling him names...lol I feel better, ripped that newb good.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Really? The you're just angry and emotional defense?  Are you married :)?

    Atleast that would be a genuine reason to moan and complain about.

    Soooo moaning about my post is genuine?  Ahhhh metacomplaining ;).

    That is what you call moaning?  I am just trying to bring some balance and reasoning in this topic. Since fanboys as well as haters are incapable of rational thoughts. 

     

     

    Originally posted by Creslin321
    94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

    It is only fair isn't it? since you called people in your OP idiots too for having an opinion?

    I called them idiots for giving a score tto same score to GW2 that I would have given to Duke nukem forever or the spawn video game for PS.  I called them idiots for having absolutely no perspective.

    And saying it is quite allright for GW2 to have 10/10 is what you call having a prespective? please!!  

    My opinions is better than yours and if you disagree with me you are idiots...that is the gist of what you have been posting here.

    *rolls eyes*.

    let's see....

    Mean score right now = 8.2

    Difference between 10 and mean score = 1.8

    Difference between 4 and mean score = 4.2

    Comprende?

    A really low number is way more extreme and further than the mean than a 10 in this case.  I know you want to say it's ridiculous just because it's the highest possible number someone can give, and I'm sure there are some people who gave it a 10 for no reason.

    But if someone gave it a 9.9...would you call that ridiculous?  What about a 9.8?  I would think that you couldn't possible call a 9.2 out of 10 ridiculous because the game will likely get around that on metacritic critic rating in the end...it has a 100 and a 94 right now.  So if a 9.2 isn't ridiculous...then a 10 which is a whopping 0.8 points away is just "out of the question?"

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by Creslin321
    Originally posted by Nikkita Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Nikkita Originally posted by Creslin321 Really? The you're just angry and emotional defense?  Are you married :)? Atleast that would be a genuine reason to moan and complain about. Soooo moaning about my post is genuine?  Ahhhh metacomplaining ;).
    That is what you call moaning?  I am just trying to bring some balance and reasoning in this topic. Since fanboys as well as haters are incapable of rational thoughts.      Originally posted by Creslin321 94/100 isn't a ridiculous score for gw2, though it would be for SWTOR.  You can call me a fanboi for having an opinion if you like.

    It is only fair isn't it? since you called people in your OP idiots too for having an opinion?
    I called them idiots for giving a score tto same score to GW2 that I would have given to Duke nukem forever or the spawn video game for PS.  I called them idiots for having absolutely no perspective.


    So the issue is people expressing opinions that you don't agree with? If someone hates GW2, what is incorrect about the 0 rating? For someone who hates the game, it is unplayable. An unplayable game should get a review of 0.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • ShobShob Member Posts: 21

    I am not suprised at all. I have been saying for months that GW2 is a disgrace to the MMO genre.

    Crapy engine and animations, combat designed for consoles and absolutely stupid design choices like complete lack of endgame, missing group mechanics (no tanks and healers), no customisation to the UI etc.

    Anet made excellent and very aggresive advertising campaign where they managed to sell lack of features and bad game design as "innovation". I`ll give them that. They build it on hate basically. All those cluless kids who hate WoW simply because it is popular were rooting for GW2.

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  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403
    Originally posted by Creslin321
      let's see....

    Mean score right now = 8.2

    Difference between 10 and mean score = 1.8

    Difference between 4 and mean score = 4.2

    Comprende?

    Creslin, that was almost a z-score!  Statistics!

    :teary-eyed:

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359
    Originally posted by Icewhite
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by RebelScum99
    Originally posted by jblah
    Hmm.... They seemed legit when it was other games in the spotlight.

    Yup.

     Yeah but this is GW2! Man! Of course its different! Man!

    Seriously this always happens. Love how some that heckled others and other games are getting all up in arms now though. Amusing to watch.

    I agree 100%

    Seems to indicate that these posts are more personally motivated than anyone's willing to admit, doesn't it?

    I don't like that guy.  He's con.  I'll go pro-, and begin the post with calling him names...lol I feel better, ripped that newb good.

    Completely agree.

    The funny thing is that I was painted as a major GW2 fanboi for just pointing out that a bunch of people gave the game a score that was ridiculous far away from the mean, and their reasons were pretty ridiculousy.  But apparently, I must be a rabid fanboi because I didn't include some token ridiculous "10" scores, even though a 10 is much closer to the mean in this case.

    I feel like there are essentially two sides lined up on either side ready to sling mud at each other, and unless you try to appear absolutely neutral in every post you make, then you will be categorized on one side or the other.

    Well, I'm not going to say stuff that I don't believe just so I can give the appearance of "balance," when I think something is stupid, I will point it out.

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