Well, at least I was smart enough to get out while I could still get a refund. I just feel sorry for the people that are going to realize it too late. Blizzard isn't stupid, and they are going to adapt as the genre changes. That's why they've managed to stay on top, and will continue to. They already smashed GW1, and they're going to do the same to GW2. It's funny how WoW is going to outlast both of them, despite there being a 7-year gap in their releases. LOL
Soooo... because you don't like GW2 everyone else should not either? I don't play WOW so why would I care about its ranking? What does have to do with anything?
Can we ban people like this? They really add nothing to the forum...
Originally posted by iamflymolo So it's the end game now? Because during beta you said it was the controls that had you not wanting to play. Or is it both? Or do you like the controls now? Or will it be something else next week?
Controls are an issue atm. The biggest issue GW2 has with becoming a esport imo. If OP said something in beta about sluggish mouse movent control god bless him.
As far as level 80 so soon, I think that's a terrible way to play this game.
Originally posted by Yamota You fanboys need to get over yourselves and realise that sometimes someone not liking the game is just not liking the game. He is not trolling or trying to get people upset, he simple does not like the game and as I understand it, this OP, says that there is no endgame and hasn't this been a "feature" of this game from the get go?
No one has an issue with someone not liking the game. If that is all he said "I dont like GW2 and I am going to play WOW" then that would have been fine. But when you try to push off your opinion in a juvenile attempt to claim some imaginary superiority or pit two (unrelated) games against each other its fustrating and really should not be tolerated.
Stop passing opinion off as fact.
What would be interesting is to understand what type of gamer you are and what aspects of GW2 didnt work for you. Then at least we could understand their perspective.
GW2 isnt going to be for everybody and there will be some who will not like it.
So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
And you probably only explored around 20-30% of the game. GL with your WoW grind in Kung Fu Panda land.
They are working on end game - they have said that. The game isn't even out a week and you are whining like a little baby. JEEZ - get a life.
Originally posted by Yamota You fanboys need to get over yourselves and realise that sometimes someone not liking the game is just not liking the game. He is not trolling or trying to get people upset, he simple does not like the game and as I understand it, this OP, says that there is no endgame and hasn't this been a "feature" of this game from the get go?
No worries, most know that GW2 isn't going to appeal to everyone. Some people actually like the trinity setup and raiding, they need that carrot on a stick to give them some feeling of acheivement to keep playing. Some people simply truly enjoy the gear grind that other games offer as well. Thats fine and not something that can be argued with.
Saying there is a grind... when there simply isn't a reason to grind shows that the above is not what they OP wanted to convey.
Saying theres nothing to do once you hit level 80 or implying that there is a lack of content also shows that isn't what the OP wanted to convey.
The game won't be for everyone, this is fact. But if you simply don't enjoy it and want to move on you wouldn't try and misrepresent things to "justify" your opinion, when you do it makes it seem to others you are simply trying to troll.
So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
Troll? Chasing achivements and stats is all you do in WoW. And dont expect MoP to be anything other than what you already did in TBC, Wotlk and Cata. They already killed off all the most interesting characters in WoWs lore, and now you get ugly pandaren and pokemon battles. Never understand the mentality of people rushing to max in less than a week of release then claiming there isnt much to do lol. Most of the population is barley beyond lvl 30. This has to be a troll..
Ignore the reason he quit...focus your hate on wow...it will be easier to swallow this guys attempt to tell you theres not a significant endgame.
hes right...theres going to be more posts like this soon.
However doesnt do him any favors to use wow as a reference...that gets fanboi's in a froth real quick..
For the valiant GW2 defenders: What kind of endgame does this game have in your eyes? What makes it so speacial that youll be ready to play it for 6 months?
I mean what makes this game so special where having a boring endgame will all of a sudden be acceptable for everyone?
BECAUSE ITS FUN. just like GW1 was....TO ME. Some of you people today beleive an MMO can only be good if its end game has raids and stats to chase week after week. A lot of people are getting sick of that.
So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
Troll? Chasing achivements and stats is all you do in WoW. And dont expect MoP to be anything other than what you already did in TBC, Wotlk and Cata. They already killed off all the most interesting characters in WoWs lore, and now you get ugly pandaren and pokemon battles. Never understand the mentality of people rushing to max in less than a week of release then claiming there isnt much to do lol. Most of the population is barley beyond lvl 30. This has to be a troll..
Nope, he's correct, there will definitely be players who feel like this guy and go back to their previous mmo because the "end-game" isn't to their liking....it happens in every mmorpg, it's pretty much inevitable, wait and see.
You are the one making indefensible claims, "most of the population is barely beyond level 30"........and you base this claim on...what exactly?
Only one of you is trolling here, only one is insulting the other and only one is making derogatory troll-like comments about the "other" game.
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I can't believe this thread has gotten as long as it did. Yes I'm adding to it, but it doesn't really matter by now. But JEEZ, look at the title of this thread. The OP is going back to wow...
So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
What is Orr like? What's killing Zhaitan like? What's the invasion of Orr like? Which story mode did you choose too? (the three factions you can choose) What did you do?
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So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
yea...the game lacks excitment and diversity imo...great release as far as its not broken, but the game itself is about the worst i've played in years.
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So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
So you powergrind to endgame, skipping everything else......then complain about lack of endgame......I think WoW is indeed a game that suits you better.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Don't you think it is a bit disingenuous of you to purchase the game, actually play the game all the way to level 80, and then request a refund? I mean, you DID purchase the game of your own volition, right?
People these days, no sense of responsibility for their own actions.
Now as for you going back to World of Warcraft, that is your prerogative. I am being completely honest when I say I hope you enjoy it and that MoP is better than Cata (which really shouldn't be hard if Blizzard put any effort into MoP). Just don't ask for a refund if it doesn't live up to your expectations.
Originally posted by tabindex Why is the default reply by everyone here "why did you rush to level"? Leveling in this game is too fast. You can fart on an apple tree for three days and get level 80.
ROFLMAO!!
I find it hilarious so many folks took this thread so far and ranted for so long... Its a freaking game get over it!
Well, at least I was smart enough to get out while I could still get a refund. I just feel sorry for the people that are going to realize it too late. Blizzard isn't stupid, and they are going to adapt as the genre changes. That's why they've managed to stay on top, and will continue to. They already smashed GW1, and they're going to do the same to GW2. It's funny how WoW is going to outlast both of them, despite there being a 7-year gap in their releases. LOL
Smashed GW1? In what way did they do that? Besides in your head of course.
Ignore the reason he quit...focus your hate on wow...it will be easier to swallow this guys attempt to tell you theres not a significant endgame.
hes right...theres going to be more posts like this soon.
However doesnt do him any favors to use wow as a reference...that gets fanboi's in a froth real quick..
For the valiant GW2 defenders: What kind of endgame does this game have in your eyes? What makes it so speacial that youll be ready to play it for 6 months?
I mean what makes this game so special where having a boring endgame will all of a sudden be acceptable for everyone?
Does not play the game but knows everything. You sir are an amazing person.
So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
Troll? Chasing achivements and stats is all you do in WoW. And dont expect MoP to be anything other than what you already did in TBC, Wotlk and Cata. They already killed off all the most interesting characters in WoWs lore, and now you get ugly pandaren and pokemon battles. Never understand the mentality of people rushing to max in less than a week of release then claiming there isnt much to do lol. Most of the population is barley beyond lvl 30. This has to be a troll..
Nope, he's correct, there will definitely be players who feel like this guy and go back to their previous mmo because the "end-game" isn't to their liking....it happens in every mmorpg, it's pretty much inevitable, wait and see.
You are the one making indefensible claims, "most of the population is barely beyond level 30"........and you base this claim on...what exactly?
Only one of you is trolling here, only one is insulting the other and only one is making derogatory troll-like comments about the "other" game.
The game is officialy 3 days old. It's not so hard to figure that out.
He says the game is lacking end game content....how exactly? He rushes to level 80 in less than a week of release and is surprised that there isnt much to do because not many people have reached 80 yet.
So, I got to 80 in GW2, dinked around in WvW, did some sPvP, and I think I'm done. Chasing achievements doesn't do it for me, and despite what people say, there is a grind at the end of GW2; you just don't get much out of it. I only imagine there will be many more people like me in the coming months. It seems like lack of endgame might hurt them after all. Who woulda thought?
Troll? Chasing achivements and stats is all you do in WoW. And dont expect MoP to be anything other than what you already did in TBC, Wotlk and Cata. They already killed off all the most interesting characters in WoWs lore, and now you get ugly pandaren and pokemon battles. Never understand the mentality of people rushing to max in less than a week of release then claiming there isnt much to do lol. Most of the population is barley beyond lvl 30. This has to be a troll..
Nope, he's correct, there will definitely be players who feel like this guy and go back to their previous mmo because the "end-game" isn't to their liking....it happens in every mmorpg, it's pretty much inevitable, wait and see.
You are the one making indefensible claims, "most of the population is barely beyond level 30"........and you base this claim on...what exactly?
Only one of you is trolling here, only one is insulting the other and only one is making derogatory troll-like comments about the "other" game.
The game is officialy 3 days old. It's not so hard to figure that out.
He says the game is lacking end game content....how exactly? He rushes to level 80 in less than a week of release and is surprised that there isnt much to do because not many people have reached 80 yet.
I would go so far as to say MOST of the population has not reached level 20 even. Like you said the game is 3 days old. I have played since they opened the server for headstart and my highest character reached 15 last night. I am not playing 5 hours a day but I doubt most of the population is either. I have seen people in the level 50+ area but few and far between. Anyone rushing to level cap in 2 days will usually find boredom fast.
lol too all that have rushed to lvl 80 and are now cyring that there is nothing to do
you are right once you hit lvl 80 there nothign to do becuse ther are only a few that are lvl 80 and i bet the most are the only lvl 80 on there server so you can not go to any zones higher 50 as there will be no one around to help with events and there no way you can go to Orr withc for the most part is nothing but lvl 80 DE's.
so goput the game down and wait a few mounths the you have something to do weh the rest of the players get to 80
Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe one of the reasons why MMOs no longer have any longetivity is because of this mentality that you absolutely must rush to the end of the game in order for the real game to start? It can be argued that developers half ass content or something like that, but I'm looking at this from the player perspective, not the developer persepctive.
Jeez, people constantly complain about how theres not enough to do at the end of the game when maybe the reason why is because they skipped over a huge section of the game in the pursuit of a super efficient, path of least resistance to max level, and then don't even bother to go back and see what they might have missed. And going back IS A VIABLE THING TO DO, since the downscaling keeps the content somewhat relevant in terms of difficulty (well as much as it can with the gear you will likely have by that point, but eh, nothings perfect).
AND BEFORE someone tells me that's what people said about SWTOR and look where SWTOR ended up, and how I'm nothing but a blind idiotic fanboy who doesn't know what a true MMO is and should bow down to them, beg for their forgiveness, and suck their virtual e-peens, heres the thing:
SWTOR's ONLY RELEVANT PART OF THE GAME, excluding the standard raids and PVP, is ITS VOICE ACTED STORY DRIVEN LEVELING. They focused almost exclusively on one that single part of the game, either to the detriment or the lack of improvements to just about everything else. While the personal story is rather similar in some aspects to SWTORs storylines, the difference is that it isn't the only way to enjoy the game or level. GW2 has several mostly equally viable ways of getting to the later levels and generally doesn't penalize you for choosing to do so. Even when there are points where you probably will have to do a little of everything else to be able to gain a level or two, they are still enjoyable enough or at least harmless enough that it doesn't really become an issue.
If someone's done everything in GW2 so soon, they've gotta be the kind of player that's long since done everything in WoW, too. What does such a player do in WoW then, that makes it better?
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
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Soooo... because you don't like GW2 everyone else should not either? I don't play WOW so why would I care about its ranking? What does have to do with anything?
Can we ban people like this? They really add nothing to the forum...
Have fun in pandaland and ont forget Gotte CATCH EM ALL !!!!
Controls are an issue atm. The biggest issue GW2 has with becoming a esport imo. If OP said something in beta about sluggish mouse movent control god bless him.
As far as level 80 so soon, I think that's a terrible way to play this game.
No one has an issue with someone not liking the game. If that is all he said "I dont like GW2 and I am going to play WOW" then that would have been fine. But when you try to push off your opinion in a juvenile attempt to claim some imaginary superiority or pit two (unrelated) games against each other its fustrating and really should not be tolerated.
Stop passing opinion off as fact.
What would be interesting is to understand what type of gamer you are and what aspects of GW2 didnt work for you. Then at least we could understand their perspective.
GW2 isnt going to be for everybody and there will be some who will not like it.
And you probably only explored around 20-30% of the game. GL with your WoW grind in Kung Fu Panda land.
They are working on end game - they have said that. The game isn't even out a week and you are whining like a little baby. JEEZ - get a life.
No worries, most know that GW2 isn't going to appeal to everyone. Some people actually like the trinity setup and raiding, they need that carrot on a stick to give them some feeling of acheivement to keep playing. Some people simply truly enjoy the gear grind that other games offer as well. Thats fine and not something that can be argued with.
Saying there is a grind... when there simply isn't a reason to grind shows that the above is not what they OP wanted to convey.
Saying theres nothing to do once you hit level 80 or implying that there is a lack of content also shows that isn't what the OP wanted to convey.
The game won't be for everyone, this is fact. But if you simply don't enjoy it and want to move on you wouldn't try and misrepresent things to "justify" your opinion, when you do it makes it seem to others you are simply trying to troll.
Troll? Chasing achivements and stats is all you do in WoW. And dont expect MoP to be anything other than what you already did in TBC, Wotlk and Cata. They already killed off all the most interesting characters in WoWs lore, and now you get ugly pandaren and pokemon battles. Never understand the mentality of people rushing to max in less than a week of release then claiming there isnt much to do lol. Most of the population is barley beyond lvl 30. This has to be a troll..
BECAUSE ITS FUN. just like GW1 was....TO ME. Some of you people today beleive an MMO can only be good if its end game has raids and stats to chase week after week. A lot of people are getting sick of that.
Nope, he's correct, there will definitely be players who feel like this guy and go back to their previous mmo because the "end-game" isn't to their liking....it happens in every mmorpg, it's pretty much inevitable, wait and see.
You are the one making indefensible claims, "most of the population is barely beyond level 30"........and you base this claim on...what exactly?
Only one of you is trolling here, only one is insulting the other and only one is making derogatory troll-like comments about the "other" game.
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I can't believe this thread has gotten as long as it did. Yes I'm adding to it, but it doesn't really matter by now. But JEEZ, look at the title of this thread. The OP is going back to wow...
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What is Orr like? What's killing Zhaitan like? What's the invasion of Orr like? Which story mode did you choose too? (the three factions you can choose) What did you do?
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yea...the game lacks excitment and diversity imo...great release as far as its not broken, but the game itself is about the worst i've played in years.
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So you powergrind to endgame, skipping everything else......then complain about lack of endgame......I think WoW is indeed a game that suits you better.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
@OP
Don't you think it is a bit disingenuous of you to purchase the game, actually play the game all the way to level 80, and then request a refund? I mean, you DID purchase the game of your own volition, right?
People these days, no sense of responsibility for their own actions.
Now as for you going back to World of Warcraft, that is your prerogative. I am being completely honest when I say I hope you enjoy it and that MoP is better than Cata (which really shouldn't be hard if Blizzard put any effort into MoP). Just don't ask for a refund if it doesn't live up to your expectations.
ROFLMAO!!
I find it hilarious so many folks took this thread so far and ranted for so long... Its a freaking game get over it!
I was shooting for intentionally disprespectful with a side order of not getting banned.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
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this.
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Smashed GW1? In what way did they do that? Besides in your head of course.
Does not play the game but knows everything. You sir are an amazing person.
The game is officialy 3 days old. It's not so hard to figure that out.
He says the game is lacking end game content....how exactly? He rushes to level 80 in less than a week of release and is surprised that there isnt much to do because not many people have reached 80 yet.
I would go so far as to say MOST of the population has not reached level 20 even. Like you said the game is 3 days old. I have played since they opened the server for headstart and my highest character reached 15 last night. I am not playing 5 hours a day but I doubt most of the population is either. I have seen people in the level 50+ area but few and far between. Anyone rushing to level cap in 2 days will usually find boredom fast.
lol too all that have rushed to lvl 80 and are now cyring that there is nothing to do
you are right once you hit lvl 80 there nothign to do becuse ther are only a few that are lvl 80 and i bet the most are the only lvl 80 on there server so you can not go to any zones higher 50 as there will be no one around to help with events and there no way you can go to Orr withc for the most part is nothing but lvl 80 DE's.
so goput the game down and wait a few mounths the you have something to do weh the rest of the players get to 80
Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe one of the reasons why MMOs no longer have any longetivity is because of this mentality that you absolutely must rush to the end of the game in order for the real game to start? It can be argued that developers half ass content or something like that, but I'm looking at this from the player perspective, not the developer persepctive.
Jeez, people constantly complain about how theres not enough to do at the end of the game when maybe the reason why is because they skipped over a huge section of the game in the pursuit of a super efficient, path of least resistance to max level, and then don't even bother to go back and see what they might have missed. And going back IS A VIABLE THING TO DO, since the downscaling keeps the content somewhat relevant in terms of difficulty (well as much as it can with the gear you will likely have by that point, but eh, nothings perfect).
AND BEFORE someone tells me that's what people said about SWTOR and look where SWTOR ended up, and how I'm nothing but a blind idiotic fanboy who doesn't know what a true MMO is and should bow down to them, beg for their forgiveness, and suck their virtual e-peens, heres the thing:
SWTOR's ONLY RELEVANT PART OF THE GAME, excluding the standard raids and PVP, is ITS VOICE ACTED STORY DRIVEN LEVELING. They focused almost exclusively on one that single part of the game, either to the detriment or the lack of improvements to just about everything else. While the personal story is rather similar in some aspects to SWTORs storylines, the difference is that it isn't the only way to enjoy the game or level. GW2 has several mostly equally viable ways of getting to the later levels and generally doesn't penalize you for choosing to do so. Even when there are points where you probably will have to do a little of everything else to be able to gain a level or two, they are still enjoyable enough or at least harmless enough that it doesn't really become an issue.
If someone's done everything in GW2 so soon, they've gotta be the kind of player that's long since done everything in WoW, too. What does such a player do in WoW then, that makes it better?
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.