Originally posted by Sluske Another fantastic thread. Will they never end?
People will be people, even if there 1million threads about this game not being at all WoW, people will still expect it to be like WoW, it's like a natural thought, "new game? yay I'm going to expect the regular features such as mounts group finder right from day one and a perfect launch, it will have to happen or omg ima rage quit." type of thing so ya its laughable
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You should look at your drivers or even your system a little more closely. I run the same GTX 670 and my fps is higher. This was taken during the end of a DE when my sons gtx 460 was running slow and he wanted to know my fps.
I went out of my way to upgrade drivers to latest beta drivers, even tried to force win7 not to shut down cpu cores etc but to no avail. When other games run stellar on the system I don't think the problem is on my end. And I can get 100+ fps in GW2 as well but then I have to lower the graphics options and resolution which I shouldn't have to on this system.
Originally posted by Sluske Another fantastic thread. Will they never end?
People will be people, even if there 1million threads about this game not being at all WoW, people will still expect it to be like WoW, it's like a natural thought, "new game? yay I'm going to expect the regular features such as mounts group finder right from day one and a perfect launch, it will have to happen or omg ima rage quit." type of thing so ya its laughable
I agree with you totally. If people that love WoW and Rift type games would just take there thought process by the edges, and shake it like an etch o sketch they would have a fresh perspective.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Why on earth do you need a mount? With the Portals and Waypoints it's faster than using any mount. Actually, when you hit level 2 you can just enter the PvP lobby and you can access Lion's Arch from there at Portal to where you like. I use it to level up in different newbie zones.
Housing? Never been interested in it in any mmo, so that doesn't interest me.
Tradeskill is no worse than any other game, and a lot better than in quite a few.
The weapon/spell skill system is interesting. It's the Traits and weapon combos that I really like, tailoringy yourself to several roles - it's flexible, it's fun and it's not a cookie-cutter faceroll system. It's a lot cleverer than you give it credit for. I will say that the weapon skill unlocks don't seem to make much sense - it takes about 15 to 20 minutes to unlock them all, and that amount of time is so short I don't know why they bothered with it. That's just a trivial niggle though.
Unlike you, I think there are a lot of features, and the game pleases me as much as Eve Onine, albeit in two very different ways.
Originally posted by Sluske Another fantastic thread. Will they never end?
People will be people, even if there 1million threads about this game not being at all WoW, people will still expect it to be like WoW, it's like a natural thought, "new game? yay I'm going to expect the regular features such as mounts group finder right from day one and a perfect launch, it will have to happen or omg ima rage quit." type of thing so ya its laughable
I agree with you totally. If people that love WoW and Rift type games would just take there thought process by the edges, and shake it like an etch o sketch they would have a fresh perspective.
Lol, i love how everyone thinks the people who game want a game like 'wow" You do know that wow stole ideas from many other games and put them into one, Wow didn't invent most of the stuff that went into the game. So stop referring to all games are "wow clones" When infact 99.95% of them arent. Some of them try to, such as 4story and runes of magic. But they only used the "Wow clone" genre as a base and worked further to improve their own unique game. I personally don't like Guild wars 2 and after reading so many posts to see what people are saying about it. It made me go further away from ever trying this game. To me, the graphics arent "All that" I've played many games with better graphics. I don't like how the skill system seems to work (Although, i do admit it seems quite interesting to see what happens with it later down the line.) Nothing in this game really appeals to me. But those are just my 2cents on this whole thing.
But for the op to make a post like this is just frustrating for the GW2 fanboys out there that are over hyping this game. I don't know what the game is like. But to type that he done without experiencing 90% of the game while playing seems kind of stupid to me.
(Remember, what i said about gw2 is just my personal opinion. I just don't like the concept of the game, As it doesn't appeal to me. But it may do later when i get back into mmorpgs)
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Originally posted by Sluske Another fantastic thread. Will they never end?
People will be people, even if there 1million threads about this game not being at all WoW, people will still expect it to be like WoW, it's like a natural thought, "new game? yay I'm going to expect the regular features such as mounts group finder right from day one and a perfect launch, it will have to happen or omg ima rage quit." type of thing so ya its laughable
I agree with you totally. If people that love WoW and Rift type games would just take there thought process by the edges, and shake it like an etch o sketch they would have a fresh perspective.
Lol, i love how everyone thinks the people who game want a game like 'wow" You do know that wow stole ideas from many other games and put them into one, Wow didn't invent most of the stuff that went into the game. So stop referring to all games are "wow clones" When infact 99.95% of them arent. Some of them try to, such as 4story and runes of magic. But they only used the "Wow clone" genre as a base and worked further to improve their own unique game. I personally don't like Guild wars 2 and after reading so many posts to see what people are saying about it. It made me go further away from ever trying this game. To me, the graphics arent "All that" I've played many games with better graphics. I don't like how the skill system seems to work (Although, i do admit it seems quite interesting to see what happens with it later down the line.) Nothing in this game really appeals to me. But those are just my 2cents on this whole thing.
But for the op to make a post like this is just frustrating for the GW2 fanboys out there that are over hyping this game. I don't know what the game is like. But to type that he done without experiencing 90% of the game while playing seems kind of stupid to me.
(Remember, what i said about gw2 is just my personal opinion. I just don't like the concept of the game, As it doesn't appeal to me. But it may do later when i get back into mmorpgs)
That is exactly what I said, people shouldn't think about WoW when it comes to gaming. I never said they want a game like it. I said they should think fresh and different.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
But for the op to make a post like this is just frustrating for the GW2 fanboys out there that are over hyping this game. I don't know what the game is like. But to type that he done without experiencing 90% of the game while playing seems kind of stupid to me.
No. Stupid is being presumptuous and saying ZOMG HE HASN'T PLAYED 90% OF THE GAME!!!
What scientific process brought you to that conclusion?
I had to play a pretty frickin long time just to get into a dungeon with a group of players. In a MMORPG. Somethings very wrong with that. And its something I don't remember seeing mentioned in any of the previews I watched and read before buying GW2.
You'd think somebody, between all you beta testers out there, would have made a little more noise about that ahead of time. I seriously did not expect to find a design hole big enough to fly a 747 through in such a hyped game.
But for the op to make a post like this is just frustrating for the GW2 fanboys out there that are over hyping this game. I don't know what the game is like. But to type that he done without experiencing 90% of the game while playing seems kind of stupid to me.
No. Stupid is being presumptuous and saying ZOMG HE HASN'T PLAYED 90% OF THE GAME!!!
What scientific process brought you to that conclusion?
I had to play a pretty frickin long time just to get into a dungeon with a group of players. In a MMORPG. Somethings very wrong with that. And its something I don't remember seeing mentioned in any of the previews I watched and read before buying GW2.
You'd think somebody, between all you beta testers out there, would have made a little more noise about that ahead of time. I seriously did not expect to find a design hole big enough to fly a 747 through in such a hyped game.
Gotta laugh after actually reading you OP now.
Took me no longer that 5 min to put together a group for the first dungeon. Where did you spam to find a group? the starting zone? lol. I see people post about groups for instances constantly.
OMG no mounts. I have to go walk and experience things while I go get waypoints to fast travel instead of afk with num lock down as I fly over everything. WAHHHHH.
No housing? I want sims in my game. They promised me this at a later time... its later isn't it. Wheres my god damn house?
This game is F2P, what was that 50$ I payed to get into it then?
Enjoy WoW or TOR btw, we won't miss you. Sound like a raging little kid to me, it's kinda sad. Specially since a lot of this was covered before the game came out... but clearly you plugged your ears to it and pretended that it was never mentioned. Everything you posted was posted once before, and it was all preference or you just being bad and not figuring out how to do it properly (dungeon finding mostly). As far as the rest, thats your opinion on what needs to be in a game. But I could care less if it is or not.
indeed, The dude has posted nothing but hate towards he game long before it was released even and he keeps mentioning how diablo 2 and 3 have more players then any other game, blizzboy.
But for the op to make a post like this is just frustrating for the GW2 fanboys out there that are over hyping this game. I don't know what the game is like. But to type that he done without experiencing 90% of the game while playing seems kind of stupid to me.
No. Stupid is being presumptuous and saying ZOMG HE HASN'T PLAYED 90% OF THE GAME!!!
What scientific process brought you to that conclusion?
I had to play a pretty frickin long time just to get into a dungeon with a group of players. In a MMORPG. Somethings very wrong with that. And its something I don't remember seeing mentioned in any of the previews I watched and read before buying GW2.
You'd think somebody, between all you beta testers out there, would have made a little more noise about that ahead of time. I seriously did not expect to find a design hole big enough to fly a 747 through in such a hyped game.
Gotta laugh after actually reading you OP now.
Took me no longer that 5 min to put together a group for the first dungeon. Where did you spam to find a group? the starting zone? lol. I see people post about groups for instances constantly.
OMG no mounts. I have to go walk and experience things while I go get waypoints to fast travel instead of afk with num lock down as I fly over everything. WAHHHHH.
No housing? I want sims in my game. They promised me this at a later time... its later isn't it. Wheres my god damn house?
This game is F2P, what was that 50$ I payed to get into it then?
Enjoy WoW or TOR btw, we won't miss you. Sound like a raging little kid to me, it's kinda sad. Specially since a lot of this was covered before the game came out... but clearly you plugged your ears to it and pretended that it was never mentioned. Everything you posted was posted once before, and it was all preference or you just being bad and not figuring out how to do it properly (dungeon finding mostly). As far as the rest, thats your opinion on what needs to be in a game. But I could care less if it is or not.
Ok, first off, if you're trying to prove a point, don't go back and be a hypocrite about it. I see exactly what he's talking about with the GW2 being hyped up by fan boys like you. It's like GW2 players are too stubborn and blinded to see that they do the exact same retarded things as WoW players do, then they go off and blame every little aspect you don't like about the game and compare it to other stupid MMOs. He said he'd like a mount. No where does he say it's because he wants to travel around the map fast because he's use to it, no where does it say he wanted it to be like other MMOs, no where does it say he doesn't like the dungeoning system. Your stupid, blatant fanboyish statements really irritate me -- including the fact when he's having an actual discussion about what he DISLIKES about the game and what he PREFERS in the game. But you cannot seem to get it through that thick skull of yours that they are merely opinions and none raging statements. He said it sucks, so get the fuck over it. Just because he doesn't like the way things are played on this game doesn't mean he's bad and it doesn't mean he can't do things right, it just means you're ignorant towards any other opinions but yours.
Don't even get me started with any other retarded, contridicting statements you pulled. Good day, mate.
Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
Really, graphics engine best in the business? Im not really sure how you rate/scale a graphics engine... but Tera looks light years ahead of GW2 graphics.
I like how the game reminds me of both daoc and coh. I think arenanet took several good features from both those games. It doesnt remind me if wow at all, I don't get the wow comparisons.
I like how the game reminds me of both daoc and coh. I think arenanet took several good features from both those games. It doesnt remind me if wow at all, I don't get the wow comparisons.
If it is not WoW like, it is bad.
If it is WoW like, it's also bad.
If it's a themepark, it's too on rails.
If it's a sandbox, it's too confusing and aimless.
If you sleep, you must die.
If you stay awake, you must die.
Basically put, doomed to fail in the eyes of some people regardless of stance taken.
Originally posted by ShakyMo Oh also, I think tsw has a better gfx engine. Possibly tera too, but I'm only going off videos on that one.
TSW and Tera have a much more complex graphics engine, but they looked a bit.... plastic to me. Especially TSW. The animations reminded me of 90's CGI where no one was quite sure how to make all the parts move together realistically.
Originally posted by ShakyMo Oh also, I think tsw has a better gfx engine. Possibly tera too, but I'm only going off videos on that one.
TSW and Tera have a much more complex graphics engine, but they looked a bit.... plastic to me. Especially TSW. The animations reminded me of 90's CGI where no one was quite sure how to make all the parts move together realistically.
Nah that was a function of programming not the engine. AoC had fantastic animations and combat and used the same game engine. Also the fact that my roomate was able to play it on a 5 year old computer with a gtx260 and the lowest setting looked better and ran better than a lot of other games on high...well thats a good engine. Also getting whatever their version of WvWvW to work with such high graphic tech as they did was impressive from what i saw...
Now with GW2...only DX9 of course it should run good on an average system, a new game thats suppose to be AAA or whatever with only dx9 is a shortcut. I feel that DX11 would have shown the engines flaws.
You can say a lot of negative things about TSW for all i care, not my type of game, but that game engine is fantastic. But if were going to bash other games here i feel at least that game has substance in it. comparing TSW to GW2 is like comparing Highlights magazine (anyone remember those?) to a Von Mises book.
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People will be people, even if there 1million threads about this game not being at all WoW, people will still expect it to be like WoW, it's like a natural thought, "new game? yay I'm going to expect the regular features such as mounts group finder right from day one and a perfect launch, it will have to happen or omg ima rage quit." type of thing so ya its laughable
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I went out of my way to upgrade drivers to latest beta drivers, even tried to force win7 not to shut down cpu cores etc but to no avail. When other games run stellar on the system I don't think the problem is on my end. And I can get 100+ fps in GW2 as well but then I have to lower the graphics options and resolution which I shouldn't have to on this system.
I agree with you totally. If people that love WoW and Rift type games would just take there thought process by the edges, and shake it like an etch o sketch they would have a fresh perspective.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
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Thank God you came by then!
Why on earth do you need a mount? With the Portals and Waypoints it's faster than using any mount. Actually, when you hit level 2 you can just enter the PvP lobby and you can access Lion's Arch from there at Portal to where you like. I use it to level up in different newbie zones.
Housing? Never been interested in it in any mmo, so that doesn't interest me.
Tradeskill is no worse than any other game, and a lot better than in quite a few.
The weapon/spell skill system is interesting. It's the Traits and weapon combos that I really like, tailoringy yourself to several roles - it's flexible, it's fun and it's not a cookie-cutter faceroll system. It's a lot cleverer than you give it credit for. I will say that the weapon skill unlocks don't seem to make much sense - it takes about 15 to 20 minutes to unlock them all, and that amount of time is so short I don't know why they bothered with it. That's just a trivial niggle though.
Unlike you, I think there are a lot of features, and the game pleases me as much as Eve Onine, albeit in two very different ways.
Lol, i love how everyone thinks the people who game want a game like 'wow" You do know that wow stole ideas from many other games and put them into one, Wow didn't invent most of the stuff that went into the game. So stop referring to all games are "wow clones" When infact 99.95% of them arent. Some of them try to, such as 4story and runes of magic. But they only used the "Wow clone" genre as a base and worked further to improve their own unique game. I personally don't like Guild wars 2 and after reading so many posts to see what people are saying about it. It made me go further away from ever trying this game. To me, the graphics arent "All that" I've played many games with better graphics. I don't like how the skill system seems to work (Although, i do admit it seems quite interesting to see what happens with it later down the line.) Nothing in this game really appeals to me. But those are just my 2cents on this whole thing.
But for the op to make a post like this is just frustrating for the GW2 fanboys out there that are over hyping this game. I don't know what the game is like. But to type that he done without experiencing 90% of the game while playing seems kind of stupid to me.
(Remember, what i said about gw2 is just my personal opinion. I just don't like the concept of the game, As it doesn't appeal to me. But it may do later when i get back into mmorpgs)
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That is exactly what I said, people shouldn't think about WoW when it comes to gaming. I never said they want a game like it. I said they should think fresh and different.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
No. Stupid is being presumptuous and saying ZOMG HE HASN'T PLAYED 90% OF THE GAME!!!
What scientific process brought you to that conclusion?
I had to play a pretty frickin long time just to get into a dungeon with a group of players. In a MMORPG. Somethings very wrong with that. And its something I don't remember seeing mentioned in any of the previews I watched and read before buying GW2.
You'd think somebody, between all you beta testers out there, would have made a little more noise about that ahead of time. I seriously did not expect to find a design hole big enough to fly a 747 through in such a hyped game.
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Gotta laugh after actually reading you OP now.
Took me no longer that 5 min to put together a group for the first dungeon. Where did you spam to find a group? the starting zone? lol. I see people post about groups for instances constantly.
OMG no mounts. I have to go walk and experience things while I go get waypoints to fast travel instead of afk with num lock down as I fly over everything. WAHHHHH.
No housing? I want sims in my game. They promised me this at a later time... its later isn't it. Wheres my god damn house?
This game is F2P, what was that 50$ I payed to get into it then?
Enjoy WoW or TOR btw, we won't miss you. Sound like a raging little kid to me, it's kinda sad. Specially since a lot of this was covered before the game came out... but clearly you plugged your ears to it and pretended that it was never mentioned. Everything you posted was posted once before, and it was all preference or you just being bad and not figuring out how to do it properly (dungeon finding mostly). As far as the rest, thats your opinion on what needs to be in a game. But I could care less if it is or not.
Wow.
Any other stalkers want to talk about GW2?
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Ok, first off, if you're trying to prove a point, don't go back and be a hypocrite about it. I see exactly what he's talking about with the GW2 being hyped up by fan boys like you. It's like GW2 players are too stubborn and blinded to see that they do the exact same retarded things as WoW players do, then they go off and blame every little aspect you don't like about the game and compare it to other stupid MMOs. He said he'd like a mount. No where does he say it's because he wants to travel around the map fast because he's use to it, no where does it say he wanted it to be like other MMOs, no where does it say he doesn't like the dungeoning system. Your stupid, blatant fanboyish statements really irritate me -- including the fact when he's having an actual discussion about what he DISLIKES about the game and what he PREFERS in the game. But you cannot seem to get it through that thick skull of yours that they are merely opinions and none raging statements. He said it sucks, so get the fuck over it. Just because he doesn't like the way things are played on this game doesn't mean he's bad and it doesn't mean he can't do things right, it just means you're ignorant towards any other opinions but yours.
Don't even get me started with any other retarded, contridicting statements you pulled. Good day, mate.
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Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
Read first line, skipped rest.
Really, graphics engine best in the business? Im not really sure how you rate/scale a graphics engine... but Tera looks light years ahead of GW2 graphics.
I like how the game reminds me of both daoc and coh. I think arenanet took several good features from both those games. It doesnt remind me if wow at all, I don't get the wow comparisons.
If it is not WoW like, it is bad.
If it is WoW like, it's also bad.
If it's a themepark, it's too on rails.
If it's a sandbox, it's too confusing and aimless.
If you sleep, you must die.
If you stay awake, you must die.
Basically put, doomed to fail in the eyes of some people regardless of stance taken.
Yeah and wow like = bad in my book
Ok thanks for letting YOUR PoV know to the world.
We dont share YOUR PoV.
Now go back to some other craptastic mmo you played and let us have all the fun.
As we have insane amounts of fun crafting / pvp / WvW / PvE.
Dont let the door hit you on the way out !
Yeah and wow like = bad in my book
TSW and Tera have a much more complex graphics engine, but they looked a bit.... plastic to me. Especially TSW. The animations reminded me of 90's CGI where no one was quite sure how to make all the parts move together realistically.
Tsw seems more gpu hungry than gw2, gw2 seems more cpu hungry.
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You, my friend, have a very serious problem.
Nah that was a function of programming not the engine. AoC had fantastic animations and combat and used the same game engine. Also the fact that my roomate was able to play it on a 5 year old computer with a gtx260 and the lowest setting looked better and ran better than a lot of other games on high...well thats a good engine. Also getting whatever their version of WvWvW to work with such high graphic tech as they did was impressive from what i saw...
Now with GW2...only DX9 of course it should run good on an average system, a new game thats suppose to be AAA or whatever with only dx9 is a shortcut. I feel that DX11 would have shown the engines flaws.
You can say a lot of negative things about TSW for all i care, not my type of game, but that game engine is fantastic. But if were going to bash other games here i feel at least that game has substance in it. comparing TSW to GW2 is like comparing Highlights magazine (anyone remember those?) to a Von Mises book.