Yeah, i dont buy that the trailer was intended for us older MMO'ers. Cus if it was their marketing department failed hard.
GW2 is designed for the newer generation who wants instant gratification and easy mode gaming. Most of us older gamers realize that although we dont have the time to invest we'd still rather have something to work towards as more long term goals.
yet its more difficult that most any MMO thats been released in the past 10 years.. go figure. Except here though the hardcore elite pro MMOers of MMORPG.com are just to pro for this game.... so Iv'e heard...
I have been gaming since the 80s so I'd consider myself an "older" gamer..
trailer was little better on second watch but still dissapointing overall to me
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
That sucked! Good things games largely aren't liked or disliked based on the trailer. Blizzard and Bioware have nothing to worry about in the trailers department that's for sure! LOL!
No matter what you think of WoW or SWTOR, their trailers destroy this! Heck, DC Universe online had a trailer cinematic that was MUCH cooler!
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Its original but I'm not sure if it sells Guild Wars 2 well . The game itself is the best mmo I've played since I first played Warcraft 7 in 2005 . I think its the quality of the game , nearly overwealming possative reactions in online forums and word of mouth that will sell it .But they also need a decent trailor so I think they need to have a rethink about this one .
Do any of the people in it look like they would actually play an MMO ?
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Oh I got it alright, and I find it patronizing, over the top and borderline ridiculous. I would have never approved this had I been their comms or marketing director.
What many of you fail to see is that this trailer depicts the symbolic breaking of the generic MMO formula. Where gamers constraints in generic MMO's have been lifted. Arenanets courage to step up against the norm and create a vastly differant experience than you could get from any other MMO. They have essentialy broken the holy trinity and givin us a breathe of fresh air. This trailer may seem disconnected and may not apeal to the average person but it shows what Arenanet has achieved in its creation of Guild Wars 2.
Originally posted by wartyxwt Coulda sworn youtube was showing a TSW advert before the video, then I realized it was the video lol.
Lool , Exactly my feeling , i was looking for the skip button after a while.
I think everyone was drunk or hungover from celebrating the success to much when they let this go trough. The idea would be nice and is not new , BUT FREAK it slooks like something totally off and made while on heavy drugs.
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Oh I got it alright, and I find it patronizing, over the top and borderline ridiculous. I would have never approved this had I been their comms or marketing director.
Why would that be "patronizing" or over the top and most of all ridicoulos?
It showcases what ANet stood up for and it was to make a difference. My interpretation of the "walking over the fire" part was also slightly wrong it seems because it actually showcases the Companys courage on not being afraid to try something new.
The woman in the water was the only bright color in a colorless world (since all mmos are rather "the same" in the meantime) until she sees the light that brings her into the GW2 world.
A other guy wrote it much better and explained the whole thing better than me in the GW2 section of the forums.
In my opinion the whole concept (even a bit heavy for the mass) and the message it delivers is brilliant.
Originally posted by karlostgr8 What many of you fail to see is that this trailer depicts the symbolic breaking of the generic MMO formula. Where gamers constraints in generic MMO's have been lifted. Arenanets courage to step up against the norm and create a vastly differant experience than you could get from any other MMO. They have essentialy broken the holy trinity and givin us a breathe of fresh air. This trailer may seem disconnected and may not apeal to the average person but it shows what Arenanet has achieved in its creation of Guild Wars 2.
I like it. It's creative, it's different, why always the same old?
Strange, the SAME people who always wanted the Trinity away just "because it was done too often" now bitch because a game trailer is not the same as the old and known WOW formula.
Oh the irony.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Thanks.
Apparently most other gamers are unable to understand subtle subtext. Sigh.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Didn't we go over this in another topic? where i told you only because people dislike it doesn't mean they didn't understand it. And here you are doing the same.
I understood the message behind the trailer and still think it is awful. Now go ahead and patronize me with one page reply.
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Didn't we go over this in another topic? where i told you only because people dislike it doesn't mean they didn't understand it. And here you are doing the same.
I understood the message behind the trailer and still think it is awful. Now go ahead and patronize me with one page reply.
Oh, so people aren't dumb, they are just hecklers! Wow, now I feel much better.
NOT.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Didn't we go over this in another topic? where i told you only because people dislike it doesn't mean they didn't understand it. And here you are doing the same.
I understood the message behind the trailer and still think it is awful. Now go ahead and patronize me with one page reply.
Oh, so people aren't dumb, they are just hecklers! Wow, now I feel much better.
NOT.
No people have different tastes and opinion. Welcome to the real world where everyone doesn't like everything that you do. You must be such a fun to live with.
Originally posted by Yamota That was a horrible trailer and the proportion of dislikes on Youtube shows it. What were they thinking?
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Didn't we go over this in another topic? where i told you only because people dislike it doesn't mean they didn't understand it. And here you are doing the same.
I understood the message behind the trailer and still think it is awful. Now go ahead and patronize me with one page reply.
Oh, so people aren't dumb, they are just hecklers! Wow, now I feel much better.
NOT.
No people have different tastes and opinion. Welcome to the real world where everyone doesn't like everything that you do. You must be such a fun to live with.
Shocking... this.. relativism.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Originally posted by Elikal I like it. It's creative, it's different, why always the same old?Strange, the SAME people who always wanted the Trinity away just "because it was done too often" now bitch because a game trailer is not the same as the old and known WOW formula. Oh the irony.
Yeah, i dont buy that the trailer was intended for us older MMO'ers. Cus if it was their marketing department failed hard.
GW2 is designed for the newer generation who wants instant gratification and easy mode gaming. Most of us older gamers realize that although we dont have the time to invest we'd still rather have something to work towards as more long term goals.
yet its more difficult that most any MMO thats been released in the past 10 years.. go figure. Except here though the hardcore elite pro MMOers of MMORPG.com are just to pro for this game.... so Iv'e heard...
I have been gaming since the 80s so I'd consider myself an "older" gamer..
trailer was little better on second watch but still dissapointing overall to me
You really like to exaggerate don't you? Only one aspect is really more difficult. The general game is pretty much easy casual mode and that doesn't bother me. I like GW2 for what it is. Why must you continue to make such outlandish statements and defend things when it isn't required. It actually turns more people away from GW2 as they don't want to be part of a community of zealots who talk senseless smack.
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yet its more difficult that most any MMO thats been released in the past 10 years.. go figure. Except here though the hardcore elite pro MMOers of MMORPG.com are just to pro for this game.... so Iv'e heard...
I have been gaming since the 80s so I'd consider myself an "older" gamer..
trailer was little better on second watch but still dissapointing overall to me
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
You're right, for SWTOR, BioWare provided BEAUTIFUL trailers, like this: http://youtu.be/mm4JEZudf0c
And gameplay like this: http://pixelbark.com/699
They were obviously thinking that the most mmo players will understand the meaning behind the trailer.
When I see all the comments on "how awful" the trailer is and the dislikes you mentioned, it seems that unfortunately most people dind't. ^_^
They could had done it easier for people to understand and a little bit different but for the meaning it had and the message it wanted to deliver, it was well done.
It showcased the connection between the mmo players and the old norm that mmos were carrying for years now making things stagnant.
People that got "rebellious" (the sprayer girl) trying to break free from the mold (the gw 2 color under the guys "molded"/petrified skin) through the freedom and choice GW2 provides one with (unlike other mmos) after they wanted to have something different for a long time now.
People that were "on the fence" and unsure if they should leave the old ways mmos worked behind, "gathered and walked over the fire", by giving GW2 a try and noticing that they can do things on their own without handholding involved (the guy that smiles after he made the experience when he walks over the fire on his own, making the transition).
So no matter who you are (personal story), what "race" you are or where you are coming from, the time is now to step into the GW2 universe together and enjoy yourselfs the way you want it.
It would had been better to let the narrator bring the message through a little bit of wording over, but all in all I didn't find it to be a bad trailer.
Its original but I'm not sure if it sells Guild Wars 2 well . The game itself is the best mmo I've played since I first played Warcraft 7 in 2005 . I think its the quality of the game , nearly overwealming possative reactions in online forums and word of mouth that will sell it .But they also need a decent trailor so I think they need to have a rethink about this one .
Do any of the people in it look like they would actually play an MMO ?
Oh I got it alright, and I find it patronizing, over the top and borderline ridiculous. I would have never approved this had I been their comms or marketing director.
lol?
Lool , Exactly my feeling , i was looking for the skip button after a while.
I think everyone was drunk or hungover from celebrating the success to much when they let this go trough. The idea would be nice and is not new , BUT FREAK it slooks like something totally off and made while on heavy drugs.
Why would that be "patronizing" or over the top and most of all ridicoulos?
It showcases what ANet stood up for and it was to make a difference. My interpretation of the "walking over the fire" part was also slightly wrong it seems because it actually showcases the Companys courage on not being afraid to try something new.
The woman in the water was the only bright color in a colorless world (since all mmos are rather "the same" in the meantime) until she sees the light that brings her into the GW2 world.
A other guy wrote it much better and explained the whole thing better than me in the GW2 section of the forums.
In my opinion the whole concept (even a bit heavy for the mass) and the message it delivers is brilliant.
Yeah, that was terrible. I much preferred the original GW trailers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAGS5-hhCcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBAxPYq0WYw
Couldnt find a HD version of the first one, but it looked much better, still you can get the idea.
I suppose the artsy crap worked for Sony, and most actual gamers already know of Guild Wars 2, so its worth a shot for them.
I name this trailer "The Road to Pretension"
For the sequel let's get Tom Hanks involved.
Someone gets it, thank you.
I like it. It's creative, it's different, why always the same old?
Strange, the SAME people who always wanted the Trinity away just "because it was done too often" now bitch because a game trailer is not the same as the old and known WOW formula.
Oh the irony.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Thanks.
Apparently most other gamers are unable to understand subtle subtext. Sigh.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Didn't we go over this in another topic? where i told you only because people dislike it doesn't mean they didn't understand it. And here you are doing the same.
I understood the message behind the trailer and still think it is awful. Now go ahead and patronize me with one page reply.
Bite Me
Oh, so people aren't dumb, they are just hecklers! Wow, now I feel much better.
NOT.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
No people have different tastes and opinion. Welcome to the real world where everyone doesn't like everything that you do. You must be such a fun to live with.
Bite Me
Shocking... this.. relativism.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
It's probably too different for the internet.
You really like to exaggerate don't you? Only one aspect is really more difficult. The general game is pretty much easy casual mode and that doesn't bother me. I like GW2 for what it is. Why must you continue to make such outlandish statements and defend things when it isn't required. It actually turns more people away from GW2 as they don't want to be part of a community of zealots who talk senseless smack.