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Feral Fanbois are hurting GW2 more than "Haters" ever could...
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If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
claiming DEs are not dynamic is just as subjective as saying this game sucks
both are negative statements and will cause a fuss
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There is NO miracle patch.
95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.
Hope is not a stategy.
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"This kind of topic is like one of those little cartoon boxes held up by a stick on a string, with a piece of meat under it. In other words, bait."
I am fan of GW2 not a fanatic. I see the flaws and shortcomings but at the same time i am capable of enjoying it.
What i dislike is the over the top fanatics who never forget to tell you 'how to have fun in game', 'you are playing it wrong', 'GW2 is perfect and flawless'..their obnoxious and condscending attitude towards anyone who doesn't enjoy GW2.
They exaaggerated every single feature of GW2 before release and continue to do so now and even though playing experince have busted their lies and exaggeration.
These so called fans make rest of us look bad and we are often lumped into same category. Yes i despise these feral fans and they do more harm to game than good.
Am i the only one who noticed that majority of so called haters here have more problems with these feral fans than the game itself.? i mean if you continue to patronize fans of every other game and make them feel bad about playing games like WOW, Rift, TSW etc... you are just asking for trouble.
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You're going to have that in any game though unless the subject at hand is almost universally vilified by players in general. You've been around long enough to know this.
Start remarking about a feature any game has and critiquing it in game and you know damn well some are going to want to burn you at the stake. I see it all the time in these games.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
You say nothing when people spam the forum with "Why are people so angry about the 'Success' of GW2?" when it is utterly subjective & is essentially baiting anti-fanbois.
You say nothing when people are outright flaming others for having bad experiences in GW2, and then asking questions about specific mechanics (ie: Dynamic Events not being Dynamic).
Then when someone makes a thread asking everyone to calm down you outright attack them?
Hypocrisy much?
Also, to say that this sort of over-hyped fanboism is "normal" for this forum is disingenuous at best. Even when SWTOR was about to release it was never this bad from my perspective. Was your post REALLY needed?
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
This is why I enjoy reading your posts Nikkita, Thank you
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The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
IGN posted their final review 9/10
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/12/guild-wars-2-review
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Actually in RIFT people complained about how "static" Rifts actually were and got a general response of "well it's better than WoW" rather than being flamed.
In TERA when people complained about the linear nature of leveling via quests you got back "Well the combat is a lot more fun than previous MMOs!".
In Aion when people complained about how flying was temporary fluff because it had a timer on it, and you couldn't fly in MOST of the game (including dungeons) you got back comments like "Well wait until end-game when you can fly around tons in pvp!".
In GW2 when people complain about DE's being non-Dynamic you get "Go back to WoW you damn troll!", or "You have no idea what you're talking about, get out of /map or stop playing!".
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
It seems the norm to me...here. Now where some seem to have incredibly short memory spans is the antics that went on other game's forums. It was pretty bad.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
People trust IGN's reviews anymore? I am honestly shocked at this statement, or were you joking? O_o
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
How about that guy that the other day was in Desolation asking if this game was dead yet?
There was a good general laugh at him/her, as he/she went on saying anet had to halt sales cause they couldn't sell the game, etc.
General hater speech.
Interestingly there was some 100 people killing tequatl...
So now you like GW2 a bit more?
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
i saw plenty of "go back to WOW" statements in RIFT - to people disliking RIFTs
the other games i didnt try; so no comment
some players like to bash games they used to play
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It is about keeping the status quo. Even though Badspock is trying appear objective and fair he is not. he will never mention the other side of the coin. When sad truth of forums is that fans of GW2 are making more flaming topics than the haters itself.
It is as if they are addicted to poking fans of other MMOS just for the laughs.
Bite Me
sub·jec·tive:
Adjective: "Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions."
Claiming DE's aren't "Dynamic" is not subjective. Dynamic means it changes based on user interaction, and the outcome is different than the last interaction. DE's literally repeat over and over, and generally only have two outcomes that are directly linear scripted events. If the centaurs win camp X becomes centaur controlled. A "DE" then starts after Y amount of time so players can retake said camp. Event Z for camp X will then repeat over and over only giving camp X a win/loss outcome.
Go to Kessex Hills and do the event-chain of centaurs. It constantly repeats in a circle from Bridge-Fights -> Centaur Camp -> Centaur Lord over and over and over with zero impact or alternative outcome. The "off-shoot" tower camp to the west comes on as an alternative to the bridge over a given set amount of time, and not based on any other event other than maybe hearts being completed around it in order to trigger it (ie: 5-10 people complete hearts, and then that event spawns).
This is NOT Dynamic at all, it is linear scripting with 2-3 outcomes that never change.
Something "Subjective" would be saying GW2's PVE is the best of any MMO that has ever released.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
I like gw2 and I don't care if someone on the web agrees or not. It doesn't affect my game in anyway.
This forum has turned to a shithole. No threads are made for discussing the game. No, it's another thread about the same shit.
"gw2 fans are fanboys" "haters gonna hate".
Jesus. Get on with your lives with or without gw2 and talk about the game instead of everything else.
Good luck with that... Seems there is no stopping these people...
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
That wasn't my experience in Rift or Aion at all. It usually ended up in a flame fest. Although Rift was a lot better than Aion.
Aion was simply awful after launch. I think the only thing players for the most part were unified about was the spam and bot issues that were occurring.
Never played TERA.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
A++ EXCELLENT POST. WILL READ AGAIN.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
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This is the overall issue I'm trying to point out and bring to the surface for more discussions on. Granted, that discussion might not happen in this thread as it is most likely going to anger some people.
However, the point needs to be made that it is an apparent issue. I will agree BadSpock is trying to be objective about the issue, but he failed on multiple levels simply because he's turning a blind eye to these over-hyped threads while attacking ones trying to bring an issue to light.
Maybe it's how I approached the issue as I'm told I can be too "direct" for some people on these forums. However, it still is an issue and I don't see how ignoring it can make it better.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Quite frankly....99.9% of all folks wouldn't even come to a site like this and I'm sorry to say your opinion or my opinon have 0% effect on true GW2 fans and to tell you the truth I don't give a flying fiddler's f==k about a lecture from you .Posts like this just make me think of some butt-hurt attention seeker with nothing to say looking to be the centre of attention...the I'm more noble then you card wears out real fast