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MOP sales down?
Greymantle4
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http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/
Take it for what its worth.
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It looks like it’s going to take more than kung fu fighting pandas to save Azeroth.
Sales of the World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria expansion have been disappointing, according to analysts at investment bank Lazard Capital Markets. The fourth expansion for Blizzard Entertainment’s massively popular online game has sold between 600,000 and 700,000 copies at retail since its launch earlier this week, Lazard estimates.
Historically, each new World of Warcraft expansion has outsold its predecessors, Lazard said, but sales of Pandaria are down 60 percent from the previous expansion pack, Cataclysm, which has sold 3.3 million units since its launch in December 2010. While these figures don’t take digital market performance into account, Lazard analysts believe Pandaria’s digital sales won’t make up for its poor retail performance.
A drop in subscription numbers is a possible explanation for Pandaria’s struggles. Back in August, publisher Activision Blizzard revealed World of Warcraft lost over one million subscriptions in the last fiscal quarter.
About 25 percent of Activision Blizzard’s revenue comes from World of Warcraft, along with 50 percent of its operating income, which has analysts concerned about the game’s continued longevity.
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The fourth expansion for Blizzard Entertainments massively popular online game has sold between 600,000 and 700,000 copies at retail since its launch earlier this week, Lazard estimates.
Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/#ZivfOz2qSZMIYOuz.99
"at retail" thats not counting digital sales
I never post on the forums this might be my 3rd post in 6 years.
I had to say that your link was the most stupidest shit i have ever read. 600k-700k sales in 2 DAYS of MOP versus 3.3 million copies since Dec 2010 for Cataclysm = MOP not doing well? WTF hahaha stupid link.
Not you I repeat I am not calling you stupid or cussing at you. Just had to clear that up.
Last I checked xfire, they still havent recovered from the loss of players when GW2 released even after MoP.
I dont think that article can really accuratly represent digital sales from the WoW main site so I'm sure its much higher than that. On active subscribers alone, even if they only sold MoP to half their subscribers it should still outsell GW2
That report is total sensationalism. It's counting retail sales since release. So it's not counting Digital sales or pre-purchases. Lets get all the numbers when we play with them huh?
What fun is that. :P
WOW is back up to the #2 spot on Xfire, and hours played is almost double of GW2
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Well since Wow has over 4x the subs you would think it would be over 4x the hours played right? Maybe its not going so well for Wow these days based on those numbers. Time will tell since the expansion just launched. Lets see those hours played in a month.
As others have pointed out, it's only counting retail sales. The funny thing is, if you buy the retail box, you don't actually have to install it since your client is already patched up anyway. You just buy the box for the CD key. Much easier to just upgrade your account online and save yourself the trip.
Also, you don't need the expansion to play a Panda, which I thought was odd. You just need it for the Monk class, and the level 86-90 content.
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Well I'm not counted, I just buy mine from blizzard.
I find it easier, you buy it digitally from blizzard then at midnight you just start playing because it is already downloaded onto your computer.
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first days of expansion is always like that
lets see after a month
What I don't get if those figures are true. How does WoW have 9 million active subscibers if only 3.3 million copies of Cataclysm were sold?
/edit oh I see- retail vs. digital. You really need to include digital if you're making a point, imo.
This weekend is when we'll see peek xfire numbers, qeues will be keeping a good number away from MOP at the moment as for retail -- digital has grown significantly since the last expansion I think digital numbers will be higher than expected, the digital version is also the same price as the retial this time round so digital is just esasier so I assume most have gone that route.
those figures are a poor estimate without including digital sales
regarding Cata http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?page=2
WOW sold 3.3m in the first 24hrs and 4.7m in the first month -- not including asian market
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Venturebeat kinda lost credibility for me as they're quoting Cata numbers incorrectly, Cata sold 3.3million in the first 24 hours and went on to sell 4.7 million in the first month.
so where are the other 5 million did they not buy it? the other 5million are in china where Cata wasn't avaliable at the time.
I had not heard of venturebeat until I started snooping around articles on the website. The second article I read after this horrid exageration was an article stating there are rumors of Nexon and NCsoft buying valve. They obviously just take anything that is even remotely able to be talked about and ramp it up, nobody can buy valve, gabe said it himself. This is just a really obnoxious news source that will bite at anything.
Well I can't speak for anyone else but I have to say gameplay wise MoP is EASILY the worst expansion, even if you ignore the panda-ness entirely. The instances are boring and extremely easy even by WoW standards.
After my 10th quest I was literally nodding off. The game has just failed to evolve with the genre and in turn has released a "done to death" expansion that can no longer even trick people into thinking it's fresh. Even visually, every new area looks like a rehashed version of an old one. Buy this game at your own risk, you were warned.
This is what I'm really dreading when my Pandaren hits max. I really enjoyed Cataclysm because it made you actually have to pay attention during Heroics. Then they nerfed the Hell out of the game just a couple of weeks after I hit max level. I quit shortly after. If I find myself nodding off during instances once more you can be sure my sub will be short-lived. It's why I quit Wrath and why I quit Cata.
And no, I'm not into raiding, which is unfortunate since it seems to be where the only challenge is found.
It really irks me that Heroics are made super easy. The whole point of Heroics was to provide the same content but in a harder version so you couldn't watch TV while playing. Now both difficulty levels are for people not interested in any challenge, just like Wrath.
Xfire is THE benchmark for MMO statistics, because 2% of all MMO gamers use it. ^^
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It is not about avability and not. Players in China don't have to buy WoW expansions. When they come to China they just are applied to servers and avabile to every player afaik So WoW expansions will never have any sales in China.
They are paying by hour for playing though.
Think this site is trying to tell 600-700 thousand + digital in first 24 hour vs 3,3 Cata in 24 hour. So that's why they have not brough 4,7 mln first month. MOP is not one month on market. Kinda logical no?
There's clearly a very big issue here. Anyone trying toi brush it away as just digital is being delusional. 60% down on retail is a massive difference. Unless your going to imply digital went up by a massive amount (when digital may as well have gone down) stating digital sales is pointless.
That's ignoring that the Eu Blizzard store is overpriced so many in the EU may not have in fact bought digital and may have been more likely to buy at retail.
Obviously this isn't the full picture but the information doesn't bode well for the expansion
I see you guys dont understand much about statistics .
Even if 1% of MMO players use Xfire. That data could be used to gauge game activity and popularity rise / drops.
Same goes for digital vs retail sales. You know what is the ratio of digital vs retail buyers. Than you use this ratio on retail sales data.
If the retail had disappointing sales - it points out poor interest in the game.
BTW - As someone who bought D3. I can tell you that I went for retail. Because Blizzard charges same for both (?).
But if you buy retail you get a very nice box.