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Must admit the loss of the talent trees was a bit of a shocker . One thing I felt was a strength with WoW that they changed a while back was the ability to customise them . That was a terrible idea in my books . I'm not sure why they changed it so it limited most of your talent points to be spent in one tree . Perhaps Blizzard wrongly thinks its players have below the average IQ of 100 and thinks it has to simplify everything so they don't get confused . Another of those fun factors they removed .
I did like the new spell murder of crows with my hunter though . That was a lot of fun.
for a wow expansion and its playerbase it is low for now
no surprise anw its the biggest wow exp failure to date
I seriously believe that one of the major problems with wow is arena...it forced wow to simplify all the classes so that they could balance, mainly due to laziness imo, because they didnt want to spend the time and effort to have to balance multiple specs for each spec. GW2 otoh doesnt have to worry about arena and look at all the specs for each class, there are tons of ways to spec a character and all of them are viable, usable and killable.
Why don't you TRY and read what the guy is saying? you new here? Come on people have their own opinions and don't need coments like yours attacking everyone, stop being a blatant fanboi and take a objective look at what others say, or better yet don't post, simple as that.
So stop being a " Die hard Defender " of WoW because it makes you look foolish!
I miss DAoC
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
The only thing that makes you look foolish is wishing for a game to die because you dislike it. Is that what you call objectivity?
And a GW2 fanboy calling me a WOW fanboy is rich. I have been recently called Rift fanboy, Swtor fanboy, TSW fanboy. I think you people need to make up your mind because every time you people run out of things to say the next thing you blurt is 'fanboi'.
especially when the digital purchase required no downlaod to play. Simply pay you money and hit play.
No download?
If you were an active subscriber then the background downloader streamed the 19gb of data for MoP to you weeks before the game even launched. There most certainly was a download, Blizzard just used the "out of sight, out of mind" approach.
If you were one of the poor saps who hadn't played in awhile, then you had a 19gb download waiting when you started up your launcher, because you wouldn't have gotten the predownload.
Claiming there was no download required is simply wrong.
Sorry but you are wrong, the annual pass gave you access to the MoP BETA, not the full game.
I am an annual pass holder and have not bought MoP yet.
I was disappointed with cata though and only really played it in the latter 6 months or so to kill deathwing and end the expansion.
MoP adds lots of things to the game that I will play, sure the raids aren't anything like back in the good old days of whenever people enjoyed the game best but there is still a lot of game there for the money. I do plan to buy MoP but just not yet.
It isn´t the collector´s edition.. it is DD completely. A WOW expansion never allowed players to purchase the game directly from Blizzard via DD. I think he (or you) are getting confused by two different things. Ok, so in reality, for a month before mop, we were all bombarded with the opportunity to buy DD and be ready to play at midnight. A huge amount of people did that. It was very convienent and you knew you could play at midnight and not have to wait in a store and then drive home. Repeat, this was NEVER done before for any expansion. There simple is no reason to buy a box anymore.... except...
For collector´s edition. An argument could be made that a lot of people DID buy the box edition because of the collector´s edition. which includes.. a book, the soundtrack and a ingame pet and mount.... except...
Blizzard also added a digital download collectors edition for $20 more, that includes the ingame pet and mount. I know it is antecdotal evidence.. but those things were EVERYWHERE the month before MoP launched, and the only way to get them before launch was if you bought the DD collector´s edition.
I honestly think almost everyone bought the DD. A few would have went to the store to buy the collector´s box edition, but maybe half of those were content to just buy the DD collector´s edition for the ingame items (and lose out on the artbook and soundtrack).
I think we will see 1 day at higher than Cata. WOW has a lot of casual players who probably didn´t bother to buy WOTLK or CATA on launch day, but because of the ease of DD, bought MoP in the month leading up to MoP release. Overall (1 month) sales numbers will probably be lower than Cata, but because of DD, more of them happened before the first day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft:_Mists_of_Pandaria
If what wikipedia says about the digital sales and boxed sales combined proves to be correct . Sales for MoP are as much as 50 percent lower than Cata in its first 24 hours .
You are correct, just a minor thing though.. you do not have to be an active player to download the game and have it ready to go. Even if someone hadn´t played in a year, if they had started the launcher the day before MoP, they could have bought the expansion and subscribed and been ready to play at midnight.
[mod edit] nobody but Blizzard knows how many DD they sold. In the past, it took them about 10 days to release the first day sales totals. WIki can be edited by anyone, and it looks like that page has already been deleted.. so, you are quoting some hater who tried to add something to wiki.
You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???
Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!
They are these figures are accurate. People are finally beginning to see that the sub only games are money pits, but it could also mean that they didn't learn a thing and are just following friends like a large herd of somethingorothers....
I dunno about those numbers. At retail, it's #1 on PC in the UK, #4 on all formats (GW2, for example, is #16).
Can't be sure if the UK is representative of the western gamer culture (my money is on yes), but at least it's not "bombing" as some have put it...
Just fyi you can not digital download World of Warcraft MoP from Gamestop or Amazon. So there was no digital downloads included in that number. ZERO.
Take that into account along with the fact that most retail stores did not do a midnight launch event for MoP and you will understand why most people went with a digital download as opposed to waiting 8+ hours to pickup the game at some store when it opens.
Sometimes a movie is number 1 over a weekend with only $13 million in sales. Sometimes a movie has $28 million and is in second on a weekend.
In other words, being #1 in sales isn't a direct indication of anything. It could mean really high sales or it could mean nothing else interesting came out.
not read the entire thread and im not a fan of WOW in anyway..
but without the digital download figures its pointless even talking about this... everyone i know that plays wow brought MOP directly from Blizzard as a digital download..thats probally around 40 people.. some i game with others i know in real life.. ok i know thats a tiny amonut but still last time around most them pre-ordered cata from game here in the UK..
If you actually read wikipedia article, you'd see that the key words here are "estimates" and "evaluations".
Again, only Blizzard knows the real number. I really don't understand how this topic still exists. If it proves to be a flop it will come from Blizzards mouth, not some analytics which more often then not prove to be wrong.
Came out the same week as Fifa '13, which is a massive, massive game. So yeah.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/367070/cvg-sources-euro8bn-activision-blizzard-sale-still-under-consideration/
"Paris based media conglomerate Vivendi is still pursuing options for a sale of its €8 billion majority stake in Activision Blizzard, CVG reveals today."
"Vivendi is exploring its options in a bid to pay off its €14bn debts and counter the long-term decline of its share value, which has halved since 2007."
I'm having a hard time finding the chart I saw showing the loss since 2007 that veivendi was talking about but here's one of the last year.
Basically since Q3 2011 their earnings started to average out. Currently their stock is down a little. Combined with the I think loss of 8 billion from vivendi and competing mmos making players not want to play wow anymore it's been down most recently on the chart. Not sure where to find out how the most recent expansion effected them but with their stock down right now I guess its not that great.
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/ATVI:US/chart
Current stock chart updated regularly which shows it being down.
like it or love XFire but when the numbers are 40% lower on the first Sunday of a new expansions launch than they were last January it is not good news. I am real curious to see what those number will be a month from now
On the box vs digital thing even if digital is twice as high as the box if Blizzard is being honest about the 9 million subs thing that would mean less than1/4 of the players bought MoP..not anything to be excited about for sure
I miss DAoC
Because 2 mil GW2 sales is awesome spectacular, but 2 mil MoP (expansion) sales is "not anything to be excited about, for sure".
Seems legit.