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DnL will take over the Industry
Avanah
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...when it releases!
I been following this game for a year now and I must say that this will be "The One" right after UO was King. All the others in the past we all played just to keep us occupied were mere clones to the true MMO which is called Dark and Light!
Wanna taste it? Visit the site and be amazed 
They are also using this as their base engine www.bigworldtech.com
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Agree here 10000%!
People wont know what hit them when they play this!
EQ2,GW,WoW,L2,AO,SWG,AC,CoH,FFXI,SB,MxO will be like WTF?? hehe
DnL will be responsible for divorces, HS dropouts(Yes, this means all you L33t kids out there)Obesity, ect ect ect
Lets just hope they follow thru and not down like WISH did!
Nobody is perfect...My name is Nobody
If it ever is released
I would agree it will be amazing however first it has to be released. Getting set back half a year because of technical difficulties does not bode well. Lets hope DnL does not suffer the same fate a s Mythica, Dragon Empires, Warhammer Online, Wish and UXO all did within the last year.
I miss DAoC
I visited the site and it did nothing for me. Sorry, I am rather content with the games I play now. The market has far too many players in it now to say any one game is gonna take the entire industry.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I visited the site and it did nothing for me. Sorry, I am rather content with the games I play now. The market has far too many players in it now to say any one game is gonna take the entire industry.
agree
i think they should do an open beta to attract more players
and see how the server will do on bigger load
It's hard to live and easy to die..
If it's going to be released at all it won't have a big impact on the market I'm afraid. The screenshots on the site aren't the best. The game looks ugly and moves ugly. The giant world will be mostly empty, I fear. No real content, just generated stuff. People will stay with EQ2, WoW etc.
Its not smart to call a game the best, when you havent even played it. And getting your hopes up about the game is good and all, but dont go thinking it will be the best game ever, your expectations will ruin the game for you when its not as good as you thought it would be.
If anything, the first time you play a game, you should tell yourself "This game is going to suck and be just like the rest of the crap I have already played." Then if it isnt, you will be surprised.
i miss wish
[we need a worldwide genocide/ a planetary suicide/ and when the whole damned world is dead/ there''s your f***ing peace]
This game will not take over the market. When it is finally released which wont be november but more likely early next year then it will peak out at about 50 thousand subscribers, hardly troubling WoW with its 1.5 million already. The fact is even if this is the greatest mmorpg ever made it won't break 100k subcribers because of the small company and little mass market appeal.
I also have lots of reservations concerning this game, mainly the complete lack of any information on how the game actually plays plus several very poor beta impressions.
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars"
- Oscar Wilde
Come November we will see which game is on top.
Nobody is perfect...My name is Nobody
Lol what facts are not right? WoW does have 1.5m subscribers acording to Blizzard pres releases and it is still rising, it was only released in europe recently. It will likely peak at 2m+.
I am not a WoW Fanboi, I only played WoW in the beta and i thought it was a well made game but nothing new and quickly it became boring. I personally am now looking for games that are truly trying to be different, like guild wars and DDO.
I am sorry if you found my observations offensive but they are based on experience watching other games. A game like Asherons call which was highly regarded only peaked at 110k subscribers and asherons call 2 at around 50k. Only 2 western mmorpgs have ever broke 300k subscribers, everquest and WoW(CoH is around 300k now...).
I didn't say it wouldnt succeed, in case you are unaware but 50-100k subscribers will be what the game is expected to get by its publishers and it will be enough to ensure its makes a profit and able to run.
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars"
- Oscar Wilde
The DnL devs have ambition and loads of excellent ideas. Only time will tell if the game when released is sufficiently polished to attract massive amounts of subscribers though.
Firstly games like WoW and EQ2 are the tail end of first gen mmorpgs. By the end of 2006 they won't have more than 400k subscribers each. And that's if they are going all out. Let's face it once you've played one game like Eq/EQ2/WoW etc you've played them all.
DnL looks to me to be the beginning of the secong generation of mmorpgs. From the features it includes it has the potential to be huge- all depends if it delivers on its promises.
If it does deliver then it will undoubtedly overwhelm WoW and EQ.
You put that perfectly and I completly agree (except for game population, because that's extremly speculative and imo unlikely). IF DnL does what it says it will do, then it will be unbelievably inovative, and usher in a new standard for mmorpg's.
That being said there's no promises. Even if the content isn't perect I'm sure the graphics will pull in people who enjoy RP, there's no question the visuals in DnL put EQII's to shame. Also inovative doesn't always equal fun.
I am still extemely excited over this game and I'll continue to watch it.
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I was really excited about this game too, and I am sure it has many things that other mmo's could use to make them alot better, like free motion flight, mass scale sieges, hiring large numbers of NPCs, Duel leveling system, Government system, and minor things like shield sledding. From my stand point however they fell into the hole of thinking mmo had base parameters. For all I know Dark and Light can have the things why I dont like mmo's. Super-Realistic graphics, Level Grinding, Generic Monsters(Killing rats), generic classes and what not, heavily cluttered and difficult to navigate UI. I think thier biggest mistake was making it medieval fantasy like 95% of the genre. But I cant say for certain since I havent experienced or have factual knowledge on the game. Given how far the game was pushed back I doubt it will take over the Industry due to the amount competing games that will be showing up after E3.
Also I do have factual knowledge that EQ2 wasnt a good game. They are one of the first buy off shelf games to offer a 14 day trial account only 6 months after it was released.
I think my biggest issue with the game that has made it look bad to me other then my disliking for PvP would be every video I see of the game is some twisted fantasy/midevil extreme sports add. Sheild surfing, handgliding, parachuting? None of that really makes a game appealing to me.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I might have actually of bothered to read your post if it wasn't for that childish first line. As I have told others, I suggest you go see exactly what games I have promoted and what ones I have said I don't like before you open your mouth next time.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
For the love of god, have you even considered reading up on the game instead of just looking at a few videos?
Yes, this is directed at you, Fadeus.
On another subject, this is your quote from the locked thread:
Yes, the animation actually decreases in quality if the video was from a LOW END COMPUTER with LOW DETAILS/CONFIGURATION.
Obviously you don't get what a low-end computer with low configuration means, so I will explain this to you.
A Low-end computer means a computer that just barely runs DnL, in this case, it would be anything near a GeForce3 Ti - GeForce FX5200, with a processor near 1.5GHz, memory at about 512MB RAM.
A Low configuration means that all details set at LOW, resolution set at LOW (looks like 800x600 in this case).
I also don't get how you can judge the interface without them actually doing anything with the interface in that video, you only saw the outer shell. How do you know you can't move it around? How do you know you can't resize it?
Exactly, you don't know.
Yes, the animation actually decreases in quality if the video was from a LOW END COMPUTER with LOW DETAILS/CONFIGURATION.
Obviously you don't get what a low-end computer with low configuration means, so I will explain this to you.
A Low-end computer means a computer that just barely runs DnL, in this case, it would be anything near a GeForce3 Ti - GeForce FX5200, with a processor near 1.5GHz, memory at about 512MB RAM.
A Low configuration means that all details set at LOW, resolution set at LOW (looks like 800x600 in this case).
I also don't get how you can judge the interface without them actually doing anything with the interface in that video, you only saw the outer shell. How do you know you can't move it around? How do you know you can't resize it?
Exactly, you don't know.
Ummm, whatever. You obviously haven't read half of what I have said if your asking if I bothered to read about the game and once again I am very sorry I don't LIKE what I have seen. Get over it. As for your rant about animations, if you say so, animations generally dont' change in games with video quality, that would be a programming nightmare, I suggest you experiment for yourself with some games and study the animations at many differnet quality levels. Pick any game.
Ok so because I said FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN OF THE INTERFACE I don't like it I am not qualified to comment about it at all because they didn't show me enough to make a sound decision to you. Or maybe you just feel I shouldn't have an opinion since it isn't the same as yours?
Get over it, its a game. I said I don't care for what I have seen, I have been raked over the coals for it since. ITS A GAME, for the last time, deal with it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Yeah, I can think of one game off the top of my head where there is an option to decrease animation, Lineage 2.
I don't care about your opinion, I'm just trying to say that judging something from a, what, 1 minute video? is a good idea.
Again, insulting the graphics, animations, and interface all from a one minute video just isn't right. I wouldn't mind if you posted some contructive and detailed criticism about it, instead of mindlessly flaming a small video.
You don't realize why some people here call you an EQ Fanboy and doesn't take you seriously? That's right, because you mindlessly flame and judge 3 whole section of things based on a small video.
Again, I could care less if you like the game or not, You flame, I defend, that simple. Before you call me a fanboy, no, I'm not, I have even defended games I hate just because a troll comes along flaming the game for no good reasons.
Time to bow out gracefully Fadeus, as you have mentioned the game style is not to your liking, either because of its "medieval" setting, the PvP, the Leonardoian forms of transports available, or the animation.
It's bad form to rain on other peoples parade.
The only person getting rained on around here is me. I never said anything that horrible in my original post to justify the way I have been treated in this thread. And there is nothing to bow out gracefully about, this is a discussion forum.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
As I have said before in this thread, its about Dark and Light, not Everquest II, please leave that and your personal attacks at me out of it. I have given ALL constructive criticism, I can't help it if you don't like it. I haven't FLAMED anything, the only person flaming at the moment is you towards me.
And for someone that claims they dont' care what my opinion on the game is, they sure can run on about what I am and what I am not because I didn't say I love it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
lol some of the things your getting blamed for is what I said. Personally, I believe all you need to see from a game is the info they provide and maybe a couple videos to get a sound judgement on it. After all when I was trolling the EQ2 forums spouting how the game wont compete with WoW and it didnt progress far, or even at all from EQ. I did it with the info I cared to invest my time into and it turned out to mostly be true. Not sure how it is now since they fired the lead developer.
Im the one who made findings based on the video on the games UI and the initial character inbalance based on the Mana system the game uses. So dont go into a rant on Fadeus about something I said. From what I saw it looked like the generic mmorpg UI. A locked bar at the bottom of the screen that will distract the player from the action happening on the screen.
On skills from what I saw there wasnt enough ingenuity in the combat, and not enough skills to make that lack of ingenuity interesting. Also from what I saw the game firces some melee classes to have mana increasing skills while other classes arent forced to have melee increasing skills. Which would lead to immediate character inbalance.
And Remember 6 months ago I was raving about this game saying how you can do all these cool things, and there still are some cool things to do, but from what I heard from beta testers it isnt turning out to be my cup of tea.