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[Column] Elder Scrolls Online: Asymmetrical Factions
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Standard WoW-based MMO (not "clone" mind you but representing the same key features thereof) are doomed to fail. When they started development people were still trying to make it work, but it hasn't and never will within this decade. Too late to change directions now but the developers should have seen it coming - it's their job to anticipate the market.
They failed to represent the IP and established guidelines set in previous ES games. I understand that some features like 'kill anyone anytime' or player housing may not be feasible in an online game but locking races to factions, cutting off players from the entire world, and even distinguishing classes was not necessary.
I agree with much of what you posted. People still have MMO stuck in their heads and once the hype takes control, there is nothing we can say to show them the light. The devs will never listen to us because they think we're just being fanatics. They wouldn't want their vision of Dark Age of Warcraft to be deluded by TES.
Well the information about factions is well known and the rest of the report is a pretty good breakdown of what we can expect.
You have basically asked this site to "write about stuff you know or shut up"...sounds to me like you need to step outside, take a breath and head your own advice. Nothing wrong with this article or the speculation taken.
Asymmertical: Having no balance or symmetry.
Typical Firor game
Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR
Played: UO - EQ1 - AO - DAoC - NC - CoH/CoV - SWG - WoW - EVE - AA - LotRO - DFO - STO - FE - MO - RIFT
Playing: Skyrim
Following: The Repopulation
I want a Virtual World, not just a Game.
ITS TOO HARD! - Matt Firor (ZeniMax)
Didn't you hear. They took the PvP from DAOC and the name from TES to try and make a really successful game....somewhere along the way though they forgot to actually come up with anything original that doesn't change the core TESO philosophy and have instead take the idea's that worked in DOAC and pasted them into TESO to make the game less TESO...while keeping the name to make money off it.
Can't wait!
That is what happens when a game gets "the treatment" here at MMORPG.com: the multiple articles hyping up a game from every possible angle each and every week. Even when there is nothing to say. they crank up the made up stuff to meet the quota.One might wonder what is done for MMORPG.com by a company to get "the treatment" for their game.
Indeed !
This, that's our job, making stuff up and speculating.
"It's a sandbox, if you are not willing to create a castle then all you have is sand" - jtcgs
It's not TESO...it's DAOC2 with an elder scrolls paintjob!
Here we go again, another game that will lock people into a category straight off the bat. It's unfortunate that TESO is going down this route when it could of gave players more options and dynamic entry to the game rather than this.
I'm not sure on this one. It's more realistic that different races have different bonuses or special abilitites. For instance, a lizard guy that can breathe underwater or a feline race that can see better in the dark...these things align well within the fantasy world and make it more believable.
On the other hand, I like being able to play whatever race I want without worrying about the special abilities or bonuses, and a game designer would have to take great care in ensuring that those special attributes, traits, etc were not unbalancing.
I think I would lean toward asymmetrical factions, but either way would be fine. I know I would probably never play a lizard guy in Skyrim, except that the idea of swimming underwater unhindered is enough incentive to get me to try it. Might help with immersion if the races are different.
Yeah....I guess I am leaning toward asymmetry.
And whats the alternative? Let God like classes run free and destroy the game? Let awful classes be forgotten?
Yeah, I guess when you are one of the OP classes imbalance is "fun and entertaining".
Have to say, this has really dulled my anticipation of TESO by a lot.
I have been a huge fan of the ES series it prob gave me the love of rpgs I have today. The more I read about TESO the more it sounds like DAoC2 shoehorned into ES universe and not even remotely close to the ES mmo that could have been ( NC-John had a nice list to start ).
This is both a mmo player and ES player that will not be buying as it looks now . Only said that because I thought I read somewhere that according to one of the devs...mmo players and ES players were 2 different groups that this game would appeal to.
You see what you want to see Xia. I thought by saying "MMOs constantly change" it would be understood that when a class becomes OP that it would change. I think it's funny in a MMO, you could have a class that seems balanced then somebody stumbles upon a neat trick and then suddenly they become OP.
If your defination of "fun and entertaining" running around with an OP class then you have a sick way to define it. When I say fun and entertaining I am talking about everyone, not just what you want. MMOs have always been a balacing act.
Animosity fuels this genre, didn't you know that?
1 thing I clearly remember from DAoC was the constant "Balance Patches" .
One month some Class would get buffed while another would get nerfed into uselessness. Then the next month the buffed Class would get nerfed and another would get buffed.
It was never ending. All in the name of "balance"
Mythic swung the nerf/buff bat like a spaztic child trying to hit a pinata
Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR
Played: UO - EQ1 - AO - DAoC - NC - CoH/CoV - SWG - WoW - EVE - AA - LotRO - DFO - STO - FE - MO - RIFT
Playing: Skyrim
Following: The Repopulation
I want a Virtual World, not just a Game.
ITS TOO HARD! - Matt Firor (ZeniMax)
3 factions are there to take care of the alleged Asymmetry.
The imbalance you get in a 2 faction game is massive, no matter what you (dev) do.
I am absolutely for asymmetry, realm pride, each race has it's perks and it's flaws, and let people experiment with builds.
Back in the day, I remember Bretons being the fotm ice wizards because of 10 extra constitution points and being easily confused with priests (both in robes with a staff), or other classes voluntarily being rolled with "wrong unviable" race for their looks but also for their size.
When I started, someone had an avalonian paladin (silly choice) and he's been made fun of for months (if not years) - still, it was the highest ranked paladin on the server, feared and respected - and it all started because he made an "unviable" choice! Maybe for the sake of roleplaying? I don't know - but it was cool.
Part of the gameplay is all the theorycraft behind building your perfect character - pretty please take daoc and reskin it with TESO lore.