Originally posted by Eir_S X-Fire again? lol Who even uses it?
People who need meaningless numbers to bash a game... people who don't care about logic, since logic wouldn't allow them to reach their goal... that kind of people, you see what I mean? ;-)
It's not a reliable source of "numbers", and it never has been. Not for any game. Apart from that, the program isn't even that well made. I had it installed for a very short time before I wanted its unsightly presence removed from my pc.
The best numbers to judge GW2's success is still 3 million. People will balk and cry "retention", but the solid facts are that there are plenty of people playing the game, and it's following GW1 into the best seller list. Again, who cares about shitty X-Fire?
I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.
If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.
22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it
3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.
Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is
I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.
If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.
22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it
3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.
Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is
GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.
Currently playing: GW2 Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.
If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.
22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it
3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.
Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is
GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.
Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.
On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release
Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure
I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.
If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.
22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it
3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.
Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is
GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.
Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.
On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release
Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure
You mean 3000 players?
Or 2/3 of WoW population?
Or 20% of 3 millions?
Currently playing: GW2 Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.
If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.
22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it
3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.
Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is
GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.
Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.
On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release
Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure
You mean 3000 players?
Or 2/3 of WoW population?
Or 20% of 3 millions?
You obviosuly do not know how to read it
It certainly does not have 3000 players, and if you think that is what we are saying then no wonder you think it is not any good
I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.
If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.
22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it
3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.
Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is
GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.
Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.
On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release
Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure
You mean 3000 players?
Or 2/3 of WoW population?
Or 20% of 3 millions?
You obviosuly do not know how to read it
It certainly does not have 3000 players, and if you think that is what we are saying then no wonder you think it is not any good
So do you have a number (or a range) or is your number "not 3 millions"?
And if you have a number what is your base to derive it?
Currently playing: GW2 Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
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It's not a reliable source of "numbers", and it never has been. Not for any game. Apart from that, the program isn't even that well made. I had it installed for a very short time before I wanted its unsightly presence removed from my pc.
The best numbers to judge GW2's success is still 3 million. People will balk and cry "retention", but the solid facts are that there are plenty of people playing the game, and it's following GW1 into the best seller list. Again, who cares about shitty X-Fire?
I use Xfire and it has its problems, but it works better than Raptr and other similar tools, and does everything all in one.
If you believe GW2 has 3 million players then you should believe Xfire has 22 million users. it is the same thing.
22 million or so people who have used Xfire may or may not now use it
3 million people who have bought GW2 may or may not now play it.
Xfire is the best guide for PLAYERS, and is better than assuming it still has the 3 mllion purchasers, but it does not show EXACT numbers, and that is what the main problem is
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beyond your example, this actually happened
Xfire WOW Jan 2012 players - 20,600
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3269838728
Xfire WOW Jan 2013 players - 5,600
http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow
Xfire is not a good tool for predicting population trends
EQ2 fan sites
Was there a patch or maintenance in WoW on Jan 11th?
Was Jan 6th sunday?
Was Dec 30 sunday?
Was Dec 23 sunday?
Dec 16?
GW2 has 3 million purchasers and has 3 million potential users at any time.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
Yeah same with Xfire, although 22 million, and has more potential for more, as it is free.
On that theory SWTOR has the potential for more than 2.5 million players, considering people can play it without paying anything, and chances are the people playing it now are more likely not the 2 million that quit before F2P, but the remaining 8 million potentail WOW players who sat on the fence at its release
Xfire stats are not accurate but they are closer estimate than the 3 million figure
Star Trek Online - Best Free MMORPG of 2012
You mean 3000 players?
Or 2/3 of WoW population?
Or 20% of 3 millions?
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
You obviosuly do not know how to read it
It certainly does not have 3000 players, and if you think that is what we are saying then no wonder you think it is not any good
Star Trek Online - Best Free MMORPG of 2012
So do you have a number (or a range) or is your number "not 3 millions"?
And if you have a number what is your base to derive it?
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders