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You know game has issues when forum mods become censors

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  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159
    There are always reasons.  Some people seem to think as long as they have any reason, it's a good excuse.  The problem is when they moderate for reasons that are just too minor.  That they have a long list of rules doesn't make thier moderation any less excessive, really.  It's part of the problem, not an excuse for it.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • MethiosMethios Member Posts: 157
    I was referring to Final Fantasy 11 and ultima online. which has nothing to do with World of Warcraft. To say gamers have matured is inaccurate since there will be people our age getting into MMO's the same way we did. I also feel a younger audience will get into MMO's since computers are very common and most household nowadays.
  • AzureProwerAzurePrower Member UncommonPosts: 1,550


    Originally posted by rafalex007

    Originally posted by Yaevindusk   So... what? I'm trying to find what the point is to these threads at this time.  Sure, there were people trying to convince others of their opinions in the past when the game was still fresh, but do you really think you're going to convince anyone who still plays the game that they're wrong and it's bad? Every post that mentions the censorship on the forums is usually found to have been in fault and violating rules that were constructed for those posts.  They actually follow their rules to the teeth, and most just don't take the time to learn them or enact on their forums in ways that are not indicative of civil behavior. Let things fall too far into chaos and you have trolls, haters and fanboys just sending waves after waves of people in to fight a flame war of attrition that half the people don't even read and just comment on the original post and move on.  If you don't like something, and you know you speak with righteous truth, then simply stop play it.  It's too late to try to convince someone otherwise, and quite honestly, it's quite immature to do so in my opinion.  Let people like what games they like instead of throwing facts at people who generally don't care what you have in the first place and didn't ask for your opinion. So long as they're having fun on their own or with other people, and their fun isn't hurting or annoying others (such as making useless threads to start up an argument that has been put on the forums over and over again) it really isn't any of our concerns when the game reaches this age.

    man u speak my minde


    These posts would be infracted and deleted on the guild wars 2 forums.

  • mikahrmikahr Member Posts: 1,066
    Originally posted by Sodahz
    Mikahr, what the hell are you talking about? do you understand the success that those games have had an MMO market?

    They did....until much better game(s) squished them like small bugs.

  • ZorgoZorgo Member UncommonPosts: 2,254
    Originally posted by cptndunsel
    Originally posted by Zorgo
    Originally posted by itgrowls
    Originally posted by Zorgo
    Originally posted by cptndunsel

     

    • No grind? Gone - its all grind at level 80 now.
    • No gear treadmill? - Gone ever since ascended gear was introduced (FotM gear which is now going to be made available in world for daily "laurels" etc
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    • Commitments? Don't believe it. Players complained about elite, veteran, champion mobs because they were dropping NO loot or inferior loot yet require a group (or a high DPS solo toon with time to kill) to take down. Anet said they would adjust the loot drops - never happened. Players complained about the drop rate for "lodestones" - something needed by the hundreds for various recipies. Anet said they would fix the drop rate, rolled out a fix that actually corrected this, then rolled it back saying lodestone drops were increased too much and this was impacting the economy. So we are back to where we started on that issue.
    • Diminishing Returns - farm an area too long and the good drops disappear. You must change zones and "work off" your DR time. This was supposedly done to combat bots. Problem - bots are largely gone now but the DR code remains. Problem - there is no CD timer or other indicator in-game for a player to tell when they have "worked off" their DR and thus its all guess work (assumption is an hour is needed). Problem - high level crafting mats only drop in high level zones, so when DR kicks in just what the hell are you supposed to do? Go to a lowbie zone to farm mats you do not need? And these high level mats are needed in the hundreds to work towards a "legendary" so really this is just a very annoying time sink foisted on the players..

    I am by no means a huge fan of GW2, but couldn't help but notice.........

    So you want a game with no grind or gear treadmill where you can grind mobs for superior loot or farm for good drops, like some sort of treadmill to get increasingly better items?

    Couldn't help but notice that you mistook Grind with Farm. there's a huge difference between spending 1 hour farming the items you need to craft armor weapons upgrades in two days and grinding for 16 months to get the items you need from vendors or relying on RNG. That's the difference.

    The first month I made it to 80 and thank goddess they hadn't turned DR on by then or I would never have geared my two level 80s when i did.

    I mistook nothing. The guys central point is contradictory.

    "I don't want a gear treadmill, but I demand the ability to constantly upgrade my stuff." 

    That seems to be what he is saying, and I think it is hypocritical. 

    I won't get bogged down in a semantics argument over the definition of what 'grind' truly means.

    please go back and read the thread title + my other comments in this thread. I was citing issues I have seen in the GW2 forums - threads that then disappear. You are mistakenly thinking that I wrote all of these complaints, then claiming I contradict myself. Read the thread title then place all of this in context please.

    Your editorial comments upon each topic made me think otherwise.

  • VolkonVolkon Member UncommonPosts: 3,748
    I've had a couple infractions that, when I emailed forums@arena.net to question, wound up in the infraction being removed. I'd rather them err on the side of caution than let things sink so far it's a tough dig out.

    Oderint, dum metuant.

  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363

    You do realize that there was a Drop Reduction system in GW1? It was put in place to prevent BOT farmers from doing the same mob over and over and over. This is a non-issue. If you want to farm, that means you need to move around to different areas to do it - BE INTELLEGENT about it. If you grind the same mob over and over, you start looking like a bot and the bot system will get you.

     

    People will complain ABOUT EVERYTHING and NOTHING AT THE SAME TIME.

     

    As for as the MODS on the official forum? Their forum, their rules, abide by them or suffer the consequences.


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