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naezgulnaezgul Member Posts: 374

They butchered archer classes by changing Bow(melee) into some craptastic magic based Archery skill?

anyone know the reason why this was done?

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  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 Member Posts: 2,735
    Yes he was at mythic until warhammer online launched.
  • KappenWizKappenWiz Member UncommonPosts: 162
    Originally posted by naezgul

    They butchered archer classes by changing Bow(melee) into some craptastic magic based Archery skill?

    anyone know the reason why this was done?

    The reason was the code had become so obfuscated after expansions, rewrites,etc and there was a lot of programmer turnover, so newer  coders had a difficult time making changes. They just rewrote the code for archery to work like spellcasting so they could continue to tweak archery along the way. I guess you could say it was a timesaving  measure.

    Not sure when it happened, if MJ was still with EA he was probably working more on WAR.

     

  • RealLifeGobboRealLifeGobbo Member Posts: 218

    Just mutter the magical words "DEKCUS AOT" and everything will be OK.

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  • naezgulnaezgul Member Posts: 374
    Originally posted by RealLifeGobbo

    Just mutter the magical words "DEKCUS AOT" and everything will be OK.

    The archery changes happened long after that bag of hot vomit.

    i loved having a quiver of my master fletcher arrows of all kinds. 

    Having a bow where you picked the speed/damage...and being able to swap em.

  • RealLifeGobboRealLifeGobbo Member Posts: 218

    Oh I know. :-) I was jut trying to make a joke. I knew a lot of Scouts who quit after it went into play.

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  • Set_in_InkSet_in_Ink Member Posts: 48
    This was the worst change to the game, in my opinion.  Loved the original style for bows.  Much more immersive than pressing a button to shoot a firebolt or whatever the other lame magical arrows were.

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  • naezgulnaezgul Member Posts: 374
    Originally posted by Set_in_Ink
    This was the worst change to the game, in my opinion.  Loved the original style for bows.  Much more immersive than pressing a button to shoot a firebolt or whatever the other lame magical arrows were.
    sorry double post
  • morfidonmorfidon Member Posts: 245

    True - I hated it so much ;( Daoc was unique for archers. 

    He went to WAR in 2008. AFAIK archer changed in 2009 (don't hit me don't remember exactly).

  • naezgulnaezgul Member Posts: 374
    Originally posted by Set_in_Ink
    This was the worst change to the game, in my opinion.  Loved the original style for bows.  Much more immersive than pressing a button to shoot a firebolt or whatever the other lame magical arrows were.

    Was nice to be able to draw string, wait for snipe or change target.

     

  • meddyckmeddyck Member UncommonPosts: 1,282
    I kind of liked the archery revamp except for my crit shot going from 1100 damage to 600.

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  • Left Axe nerf!!!! I don't care if it was needed my Shadowzerker was very sad!

     

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Originally posted by Zintair

    Left Axe nerf!!!! I don't care if it was needed my Shadowzerker was very sad!

     

    @RLgobbo - Yes... yes it did

    <Cries> Aye, my sb was worthless after that, while nightshades still ripped apart everyone left and right.

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  • RealLifeGobboRealLifeGobbo Member Posts: 218


    Originally posted by Tayah
    <Cries> Aye, my sb was worthless after that, while nightshades still ripped apart everyone left and right.

    I remember that! Both my SB and Inf were useless! Well... my Inf was useless before that, but it was around the same time! Yeah, I'm not sure why the elephant in the room *cough* nightshade *cough* took so long to get nerfed.

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  • Set_in_InkSet_in_Ink Member Posts: 48
    Originally posted by RealLifeGobbo

     


    Originally posted by Tayah
    Aye, my sb was worthless after that, while nightshades still ripped apart everyone left and right.

     

    I remember that! Both my SB and Inf were useless! Well... my Inf was useless before that, but it was around the same time! Yeah, I'm not sure why the elephant in the room *cough* nightshade *cough* took so long to get nerfed.

    Couldn't catch us Lurikeens.

    At least LA was still LA, just nerfed.  Bow specs are just a bastardized spell caster system now.

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  • ZinzanZinzan Member UncommonPosts: 1,351
    Originally posted by Tayah
    Originally posted by Zintair

    Left Axe nerf!!!! I don't care if it was needed my Shadowzerker was very sad!

     

    @RLgobbo - Yes... yes it did

    Aye, my sb was worthless after that, while nightshades still ripped apart everyone left and right.

    Pff, my 2-H critblade would own any NS that crossed my path....unless they were higher RR....or i missed my PA.....or they were a better player....in which case i still maintain they were cheating, all of them....

    ....yeah, i sucked quite badly :)

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  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    Scout was my 2nd favorite class behind Warrior (probably would've been first, if they were Midgard).  I didn't touch my Scout after the bows changed.  From there on in, I was pretty much all warrior, with some shaman and bonedancer play in there.  The bow change was horrible.  At least I could still climb walls on my warrior and pummel the archers on the walls XD

     

    Edit: And I hated Scouts after that,  seemed everytime I attacked the ramparts with my warrior against albion, a scout will stun me and run off :(

  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Member CommonPosts: 2,556
    Originally posted by kappenwiz
    Originally posted by naezgul

    They butchered archer classes by changing Bow(melee) into some craptastic magic based Archery skill?

    anyone know the reason why this was done?

    The reason was the code had become so obfuscated after expansions, rewrites,etc and there was a lot of programmer turnover, so newer  coders had a difficult time making changes. They just rewrote the code for archery to work like spellcasting so they could continue to tweak archery along the way. I guess you could say it was a timesaving  measure.

    Not sure when it happened, if MJ was still with EA he was probably working more on WAR.

     

    It wasn't just changing it to act like magic (which was morinic) but changing all the abilities to essentially be spells. It robbed the classes of their entire identity. And no, Jacobs wasn't there when it happened, not on DAoC anyway.

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