Well in that case, they should sell paper bags in the cash shop...
I guess the situation is not THAT bad... there was a "post your toon" topic after launch, it had some pretty decent ones.
I'm not saying that from a personal POV. I don't even play the game. But people seem to be upset about having to look at their "ugly" characters. I don't particularly think TSW's models are very good (in general), but in terms of faces, they're a lot better than some alternatives, including Everquest II, Vanguard, or Neverwinter.
Well in that case, they should sell paper bags in the cash shop...
I guess the situation is not THAT bad... there was a "post your toon" topic after launch, it had some pretty decent ones.
I'm not saying that from a personal POV. I don't even play the game. But people seem to be upset about having to look at their "ugly" characters. I don't particularly think TSW's models are very good (in general), but in terms of faces, they're a lot better than some alternatives, including Everquest II, Vanguard, or Neverwinter.
I know that's not saying much, but...
I see your logic. Every mediocre looking person should find 3 ugly friends to hang with
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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
Well in that case, they should sell paper bags in the cash shop...
I guess the situation is not THAT bad... there was a "post your toon" topic after launch, it had some pretty decent ones.
I'm not saying that from a personal POV. I don't even play the game. But people seem to be upset about having to look at their "ugly" characters. I don't particularly think TSW's models are very good (in general), but in terms of faces, they're a lot better than some alternatives, including Everquest II, Vanguard, or Neverwinter.
I know that's not saying much, but...
I see your logic. Every mediocre looking person should find 3 ugly friends to hang with
LOL Damn it, I guess I did say that in a round-about way...
Well in that case, they should sell paper bags in the cash shop...
I guess the situation is not THAT bad... there was a "post your toon" topic after launch, it had some pretty decent ones.
I'm not saying that from a personal POV. I don't even play the game. But people seem to be upset about having to look at their "ugly" characters. I don't particularly think TSW's models are very good (in general), but in terms of faces, they're a lot better than some alternatives, including Everquest II, Vanguard, or Neverwinter.
I know that's not saying much, but...
Me neither (I have a male toon, but for the mentioned thread I made a female one and she was nice). I agree, there are both worse and better character creators out there. I have a very good Trill in STO for example, and a few hobbit lasses in LotRO
And I agree with Wizardry on "The chemical faced,beauty salon look" too, I guess GW2 or ArcheAge (based on the videos I mean) are maybe a bit too much for my taste.
Originally posted by gaeanprayer If this is truly the perception of the average gamer, you guys need to crawl out of your holes and visit the real world for a bit. The women in this thread from TSW aren't 'average', TSW aims for realism and yet in the real world those women would still be models, still more beautiful than the 'average' woman. You guys are getting so used to air-brushed perfection that you're starting to think that's the norm. Reality check, people.
In reality african american and asians comes with all kind of features. Have you tried making one of either in TSW? the nose, eyes, lips etc are such stereotypes that i am surprised anyone would even have an audactiy to type 'TSW is going for reality'.
I suggest take your own advice and go outside and look at people around you in real life a bit more. And why all bodie types in TSW look like they just came from the ad for Baywatch? shouldn't people have different body types since TSW s going for reality?
I like that you can't make every character a supermodel. I hate games..especially those in a "real world" setting... where everyone running around is at the least of "soap opera star" looks. I wish you could make chubsters and "Olive Oyl/Gilligan" types too.
Originally posted by gaeanprayer If this is truly the perception of the average gamer, you guys need to crawl out of your holes and visit the real world for a bit. The women in this thread from TSW aren't 'average', TSW aims for realism and yet in the real world those women would still be models, still more beautiful than the 'average' woman. You guys are getting so used to air-brushed perfection that you're starting to think that's the norm. Reality check, people.
In reality african american and asians comes with all kind of features. Have you tried making one of either in TSW? the nose, eyes, lips etc are such stereotypes that i am surprised anyone would even have an audactiy to type 'TSW is going for reality'.
I suggest take your own advice and go outside and look at people around you in real life a bit more. And why all bodie types in TSW look like they just came from the ad for Baywatch? shouldn't people have different body types since TSW s going for reality?
true, I tried to make a character who was close to my girlfriend. She is of chinese heritage. It was very difficult.
Though Having said that, gaeanprayer is right, none of the women, as far as "artistic depiction of an actual human being" are average.
That TSW woman with the glasses is not average, she just has a different set of features.
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Originally posted by gaeanprayer If this is truly the perception of the average gamer, you guys need to crawl out of your holes and visit the real world for a bit. The women in this thread from TSW aren't 'average', TSW aims for realism and yet in the real world those women would still be models, still more beautiful than the 'average' woman. You guys are getting so used to air-brushed perfection that you're starting to think that's the norm. Reality check, people.
In reality african american and asians comes with all kind of features. Have you tried making one of either in TSW? the nose, eyes, lips etc are such stereotypes that i am surprised anyone would even have an audactiy to type 'TSW is going for reality'.
I suggest take your own advice and go outside and look at people around you in real life a bit more. And why all bodie types in TSW look like they just came from the ad for Baywatch? shouldn't people have different body types since TSW s going for reality?
true, I tried to make a character who was close to my girlfriend. She is of chinese heritage. It was very difficult.
Though Having said that, gaeanprayer is right, none of the women, as far as "artistic depiction of an actual human being" are average.
That TSW woman with the glasses is not average, she just has a different set of features.
I guess it also depends where you live. I was in Russia for two years. Once you live in a place like that women all over the world look average
If that tsw girl in glasses is average I need to start hanging out with more gamers! The tsw models look much improved from launch. This whole topic mystifies me that its even a topic. A bunch of gamer guys critiquing game avatar looks haha. Apologies to the couple females in the thread I understand why you would care about looks (society etc...).
Originally posted by Mardukk If that tsw girl in glasses is average I need to start hanging out with more gamers! The tsw models look much improved from launch. This whole topic mystifies me that its even a topic. A bunch of gamer guys critiquing game avatar looks haha. Apologies to the couple females in the thread I understand why you would care about looks (society etc...).
when did this happen? i fired the game up couple months ago and overall looked the same
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Originally posted by gaeanprayer If this is truly the perception of the average gamer, you guys need to crawl out of your holes and visit the real world for a bit. The women in this thread from TSW aren't 'average', TSW aims for realism and yet in the real world those women would still be models, still more beautiful than the 'average' woman. You guys are getting so used to air-brushed perfection that you're starting to think that's the norm. Reality check, people.
In reality african american and asians comes with all kind of features. Have you tried making one of either in TSW? the nose, eyes, lips etc are such stereotypes that i am surprised anyone would even have an audactiy to type 'TSW is going for reality'.
You're mixing up going for realism with lack of options. I guess everyone can agree there should be a lot more choices for pretty much every feature of your character you can alter, including ones not usually found in Caucasians.
That's something entirely different than what the guy you quoted was talking about though and he is spot on.
Originally posted by gaeanprayer If this is truly the perception of the average gamer, you guys need to crawl out of your holes and visit the real world for a bit. The women in this thread from TSW aren't 'average', TSW aims for realism and yet in the real world those women would still be models, still more beautiful than the 'average' woman. You guys are getting so used to air-brushed perfection that you're starting to think that's the norm. Reality check, people.
In reality african american and asians comes with all kind of features. Have you tried making one of either in TSW? the nose, eyes, lips etc are such stereotypes that i am surprised anyone would even have an audactiy to type 'TSW is going for reality'.
You're mixing up going for realism with lack of options. I guess everyone can agree there should be a lot more choices for pretty much every feature of your character you can alter, including ones not usually found in Caucasians.
That's something entirely different than what the guy you quoted was talking about though and he is spot on.
how is he spot on? there are TONS of extremely beautiful average joes walking around the world that are not air brushed movie stars.. so why if they are trying to make a game "realistic" can I not make a toon that to me looks anything better than below average in the beauty spectrum...
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I'm sorry, but that outfit makes Her ass look fat, hehe.
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Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
i guess we could kill it, cut out it's eye, and drink the eye juice inside...that would make us beautiful people?
eww! I don't think you drink it. I'd be more inclined to rub the eyeball juice on the skin for that youthful glow. Kind of a Beholder Balm.
It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again? That's actually a cool advertisement, Wizards should come out with some Beholder Balm for the ladies, my wife would buy some lol.
i guess we could kill it, cut out it's eye, and drink the eye juice inside...that would make us beautiful people?
eww! I don't think you drink it. I'd be more inclined to rub the eyeball juice on the skin for that youthful glow. Kind of a Beholder Balm.
It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again? That's actually a cool advertisement, Wizards should come out with some Beholder Balm for the ladies, my wife would buy some lol.
lol. I was actually thinking about SotL after I suggested it.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
Try to create a woman like this in TsW, then we'll discuss this further
Is that in-game, or from a TSW cinematic?
I lolled
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
TSW's problem isn't that all of its female models are ugly. The problem is that the majority of them is. If you want a female character who doesn't look ugly and weird, you'll have to choose between only a few faces. The same can be said about male characters, but to a lesser degree. Faces are also badly animated, which is why they often look bad during cutscenes.
Originally posted by gaeanprayer If this is truly the perception of the average gamer, you guys need to crawl out of your holes and visit the real world for a bit. The women in this thread from TSW aren't 'average', TSW aims for realism and yet in the real world those women would still be models, still more beautiful than the 'average' woman. You guys are getting so used to air-brushed perfection that you're starting to think that's the norm. Reality check, people.
In reality african american and asians comes with all kind of features. Have you tried making one of either in TSW? the nose, eyes, lips etc are such stereotypes that i am surprised anyone would even have an audactiy to type 'TSW is going for reality'.
You're mixing up going for realism with lack of options. I guess everyone can agree there should be a lot more choices for pretty much every feature of your character you can alter, including ones not usually found in Caucasians.
That's something entirely different than what the guy you quoted was talking about though and he is spot on.
how is he spot on? there are TONS of extremely beautiful average joes walking around the world that are not air brushed movie stars.. so why if they are trying to make a game "realistic" can I not make a toon that to me looks anything better than below average in the beauty spectrum...
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I'm not saying that from a personal POV. I don't even play the game. But people seem to be upset about having to look at their "ugly" characters. I don't particularly think TSW's models are very good (in general), but in terms of faces, they're a lot better than some alternatives, including Everquest II, Vanguard, or Neverwinter.
I know that's not saying much, but...
I see your logic. Every mediocre looking person should find 3 ugly friends to hang with
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
LOL Damn it, I guess I did say that in a round-about way...
Me neither (I have a male toon, but for the mentioned thread I made a female one and she was nice). I agree, there are both worse and better character creators out there. I have a very good Trill in STO for example, and a few hobbit lasses in LotRO
And I agree with Wizardry on "The chemical faced,beauty salon look" too, I guess GW2 or ArcheAge (based on the videos I mean) are maybe a bit too much for my taste.
I thought beauty was in the eye of the beholder? Question is, which eye?
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
In reality african american and asians comes with all kind of features. Have you tried making one of either in TSW? the nose, eyes, lips etc are such stereotypes that i am surprised anyone would even have an audactiy to type 'TSW is going for reality'.
I suggest take your own advice and go outside and look at people around you in real life a bit more. And why all bodie types in TSW look like they just came from the ad for Baywatch? shouldn't people have different body types since TSW s going for reality?
I like that you can't make every character a supermodel. I hate games..especially those in a "real world" setting... where everyone running around is at the least of "soap opera star" looks. I wish you could make chubsters and "Olive Oyl/Gilligan" types too.
true, I tried to make a character who was close to my girlfriend. She is of chinese heritage. It was very difficult.
Though Having said that, gaeanprayer is right, none of the women, as far as "artistic depiction of an actual human being" are average.
That TSW woman with the glasses is not average, she just has a different set of features.
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I guess it also depends where you live. I was in Russia for two years. Once you live in a place like that women all over the world look average
Ugly?
Not really..
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i guess we could kill it, cut out it's eye, and drink the eye juice inside...that would make us beautiful people?
when did this happen? i fired the game up couple months ago and overall looked the same
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
You're mixing up going for realism with lack of options. I guess everyone can agree there should be a lot more choices for pretty much every feature of your character you can alter, including ones not usually found in Caucasians.
That's something entirely different than what the guy you quoted was talking about though and he is spot on.
how is he spot on? there are TONS of extremely beautiful average joes walking around the world that are not air brushed movie stars.. so why if they are trying to make a game "realistic" can I not make a toon that to me looks anything better than below average in the beauty spectrum...
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
eww! I don't think you drink it. I'd be more inclined to rub the eyeball juice on the skin for that youthful glow. Kind of a Beholder Balm.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Try to create a woman like this in TsW, then we'll discuss this further
Secrets of Dragon?s Spine Trailer.. !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw
Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc&t=21s
.
.
The Return of ELITE !
It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again? That's actually a cool advertisement, Wizards should come out with some Beholder Balm for the ladies, my wife would buy some lol.
lol. I was actually thinking about SotL after I suggested it.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Is that in-game, or from a TSW cinematic?
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
I lolled
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
TSW's problem isn't that all of its female models are ugly. The problem is that the majority of them is. If you want a female character who doesn't look ugly and weird, you'll have to choose between only a few faces. The same can be said about male characters, but to a lesser degree. Faces are also badly animated, which is why they often look bad during cutscenes.
The "to me" part seems to be the problem here.