Everybody is so friendly on this game

shenfrey · April 2013

I just started playing yesterday and I am on the EU Auroa Glade Server and so far everybody has been so helpful, teaching me about the game and grouping with me showing me different things. I love how people come and revive you and if you revive them they are always courteous about it and say Thank you, I have recieved items for free from people to help get me started and its just amazing. Its so nice and refreshing being in a game where the community is as friendly and helpful as they are and it really makes all the difference.

Probably a large part of it is because its less competitive than other MMOs, your not fighting for quests, loot and mobs and its as if your in one big group and I think that goes a long way (longer then we think) to help encourage the community to be as friendly as they are and I just love it.

Really happy to be here and I just thought I would do my part and post on the forums and promote the game and thank everybody for being as nice as you have been, so thank you, I am very happy !

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fivoroth · April 2013

I also play on Aurora Glade and I find the people super friendly too! I have never been laughed at for asking a question. Also it's crazy how people tolerate my incompetence in dungeons. There were times when I was the one wiping all the time but people never asked me to leave, they didn't leave etc. In other MMOs I would have been kicked after 1-3 wipes tops or everyone would have left.

Homitu · April 2013

I don't think the players are any different than any other MMO. The same players play all the different online games. It's just that the game's systems cultivate an extremely positive, cooperative environment. You can put the trolliest trolls in a super positive setting, and eventually they'll give up trolling and just enjoy themselves in a civilized fashion.

While I'm sure some people have been cultured into being uncurable douches, it's so impossible to troll people in GW2 that I think they just leave after a while.

Darklighter1 · April 2013

I'm sorry. Positivity of any kind is not permitted here. You must be new.

Quizzical · April 2013

The game is designed to give you lots of opportunities to help other players (and often help yourself in the process!) and not so many to harm other players. Stick the same people in a game that is designed to foster griefing and you'd think that the community was far less friendly.

The basic design goal that having other players around should be a good thing, not a bad thing (stealing kills, stealing material nodes, ganking you, etc.) drove a lot of game design decisions. But it worked, as you've noticed.

nerovipus32 · April 2013

Probably because the riff raff have left, so now you can have a nice settled community.

eye_m · April 2013

I'm glad that you're having a good experience with GW2.

I just wanted to add that I think you are getting that result because you put out the effort to ask questions and seek out the input from others. Too many people don't see that side because they never give people the chance help them.

Enjoy the game!

rojoArcueid · April 2013

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by eyelolled
I just wanted to add that I think you are getting that result because you put out the effort to ask questions and seek out the input from others. Too many people don't see that side because they never give people the chance help them.

Try to ask some "noob" question in Tera, or even WoW. Good luck, specially in the starter areas.

you get slaughtered by the godly glorious omnipotent hardcore players. Then talk about bad community in other games (specially in TERA, i can only laugh when they say thats the best community)

The best way to go in any game is ignore the dicks and find a friendly community (guild, server, etc) and keep ignoring any trolls on your way to success.

eye_m · April 2013

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by eyelolled
I just wanted to add that I think you are getting that result because you put out the effort to ask questions and seek out the input from others. Too many people don't see that side because they never give people the chance help them.

Try to ask some "noob" question in Tera, or even WoW. Good luck, specially in the starter areas.

Did I come across like I was belittling GW2 or it's community?

Eir_S · April 2013

Originally posted by nerovipus32
Probably because the riff raff have left, so now you can have a nice settled community.

I don't know, I've been on a handful of different servers since beta and I've only encountered a few trolls. It's always been a very friendly game to me.

DaezAster · April 2013

Been playing since launch and agree, gw2 has a great community. I have had people give me omnomberry bars and best in slot gear which are pretty valuable in terms of the mats needed to make such things with out me even asking. I play on blackgate and am always helpful to new players, showing them the ropes and mechanics of dungeons etc. Kind of outgrown my competitive streetfighter younger days and prefer a co-op work together king of game which gw2 does very well!!!

Still play all the time!!!!

shingoukieh · April 2013

gw2 really isnt too competitive. mostly pve gameplay...even wvw feels kinda pve ish (like fighting bots...u cant talk to them). also the game has horizontal gear progression means most people have the same stats....not a bad thing though....i like the enviroment.

stevebombsquad · April 2013

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by eyelolled
I just wanted to add that I think you are getting that result because you put out the effort to ask questions and seek out the input from others. Too many people don't see that side because they never give people the chance help them.

Try to ask some "noob" question in Tera, or even WoW. Good luck, specially in the starter areas.

Did I come across like I was belittling GW2 or it's community?

Nope, and I didn't say you were either. I was just pointing out that for those who dare asking, the GW2 community is much more "newbie friendly" than games like Tera or WoW.

Btw, about "Too many people don't see that side because they never give people the chance help them."... couldn't it be there are less and less people who dare asking for help because of the behavior of people in the previously mentionned games? They are just afraid it will happen again, so they just don't bother asking since they don't enjoy being belittled or insulted.

No. I think it would be more like people don't need each other so much so they have no reason to communicate or be helpful. The GW2 community was just as bad as WoW or any other game when it first launched. It is just now that aren't nearly as many people playing and it has settled down to its post launch population. Most of the people who have stuck with it like the game and are most like positive about it.

Bojman · April 2013

Originally posted by cinos
Aurora Glade is a very friendly server. My characters live there too.

Welcome to the game, hope you have fun.

LOL

stevebombsquad · April 2013

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
I was wondering when the "low population" non-argument would be mentionned ;-)

I wasn't using that as an argument. I play the game. It isn't my favorite MMO, but it has things that it does well. The population now is no where near what it was at launch. Not even in the same ballpark. The game isn't dying, but it surely isn't growing either.

Purutzil · April 2013

Really? Sounds like every other single MMo out there minus a few harsh exceptions. Don't really know a community that doesn't have a mixture of friendly people and ass hats.

Not of course to bash on your parade, just silly to link it to one game when I can jump on a lot of games and find the same type of people.

Bladestrom · April 2013

Originally posted by stevebombsquad
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by eyelolled
I just wanted to add that I think you are getting that result because you put out the effort to ask questions and seek out the input from others. Too many people don't see that side because they never give people the chance help them.

Try to ask some "noob" question in Tera, or even WoW. Good luck, specially in the starter areas.

Did I come across like I was belittling GW2 or it's community?

Nope, and I didn't say you were either. I was just pointing out that for those who dare asking, the GW2 community is much more "newbie friendly" than games like Tera or WoW.

Btw, about "Too many people don't see that side because they never give people the chance help them."... couldn't it be there are less and less people who dare asking for help because of the behavior of people in the previously mentionned games? They are just afraid it will happen again, so they just don't bother asking since they don't enjoy being belittled or insulted.

No. I think it would be more like people don't need each other so much so they have no reason to communicate or be helpful. The GW2 community was just as bad as WoW or any other game when it first launched. It is just now that aren't nearly as many people playing and it has settled down to its post launch population. Most of the people who have stuck with it like the game and are most like positive about it.

its not communication thats the issue, its anti social/rude/troll-like behaviour. Wow community (for example) is toxic because many play it when they are unhappy and feel trapped/forced to play - unhappy player = unhappy in chat. GW2 started with a huge mix of players, but there is no peer pressure or fall-behind in the gear curve if you take a break so unhappy people who dont like the game have left and those that need a break can freely do so - what you end up with is a nice stable community of generally happy players.

AmbrosiaAmor · April 2013

I’m going to punch everyone in the face wearing cotton candy mitts.

tintilinic · April 2013

Whole GW2 is set up to foster positive and friendly community. It did that very well and some people still cant grasp/wont accept it.

stevebombsquad · April 2013

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Originally posted by Bladestrom its not communication thats the issue, its anti social/rude/troll-like behaviour. Wow community (for example) is toxic because many play it when they are unhappy and feel trapped/forced to play - unhappy player = unhappy in chat. GW2 started with a huge mix of players, but there is no peer pressure or fall-behind in the gear curve if you take a break so unhappy people who dont like the game have left and those that need a break can freely do so - what you end up with is a nice stable community of generally happy players.

Aye, the absence of gear curve is one point. It's true that if you take a break of one or two months in WoW, you fall way behind and will have to grind hard time to catch up with the others... you will become a dead weight even in your own guild's raid group until you geared up. So people are encouraged to stay and chase the carrot even if they are bored with the game and need a break.

But when games like WoW and its clones encourage you to behave like an asshat, GW2 encourages you to be friendly with your team.

- Resource gathering: WoW and co encourage asshattery, resource stealing, ninja that node while someone who arrived first fights off the mobs. There's no such thing in GW2.

- Cooperation in the world: WoW and co encourage selfishness, the others will only slow you down, and if you help someone, it reduces his XP, if you group to quest, you reduce your XP too. In GW2, if you help, you get equally rewarded. If you rez someone, you get XP for it! In WoW and co, it's the one who tags a boss first who gets the reward/quest done, in GW2 everyone who participated gets rewarded, as it should be.

- Dungeons: WoW and co encourage loot ninjas and elitism (gearscore...). There's no such thing in GW2, since everyone is individually rewarded for his participation (as it should be!), and the absence of gear curve eliminates most of the elitist behaviors.

I've played WoW for 8 years, still have active accounts even though I barely touch them (Pandaria's the worst expansion, even worse then Cataclysm in my opinion), so I'm quite aware of what kind of bad behaviors plague that game. People are encouraged to be asshats even against their own team, their own guild and raid group, to get those shiny purples. In GW2, all players are one team against the enemy, internal fighting and asshattery is reduced to the minimum. It's not rocket science to guess what game has a better community.

Not really. It depends on what kind of community you want. Also, the things you listed are nice, but that doesn't make the community either. Earning a name for yourself because you are good at your class, in depth crafting, an actual server "market", tough mobs that require coordinated groups, and yes, even things like being known as the rogue who ganks on boat. Those are things that make a community and in my opinion is where GW2 falls short. Just because people play nice, doesn't make it a great "community".

Kaleston · April 2013

Originally posted by Homitu
I don't think the players are any different than any other MMO. The same players play all the different online games. It's just that the game's systems cultivate an extremely positive, cooperative environment. You can put the trolliest trolls in a super positive setting, and eventually they'll give up trolling and just enjoy themselves in a civilized fashion.

While I'm sure some people have been cultured into being uncurable douches, it's so impossible to troll people in GW2 that I think they just leave after a while.

Yep you actually contradict yourself in your two paragraphs By saying same people play all MMOs and then douches leave a game because it's hard to show their "true nature". Of course people are people, but I think most of those that like to rival and beat fellow comrades leave for MMO where it's easier to do this.

As my part of the story, I play gw2 since the beginning quite extensively. And I still get amazed by how people are cool and fine in gw2. Yesterday I went Arah explorable for the first time... It was one of not so good days for me and I was screwing everything I could... I was expecting to get kick any second or at least get yelled at me for being stupid and "can't avoid red circles". I was really surprised when party was cool with that treating my apologizes with smile. They basically carried me through the dungeon (with quite a few wipes along it). That's fine that happens. What was my honest surprise when they said "Let's go another path." And noone gave a single word of complaint when I asked if they don't mind if I tag along. To my defence my curse dropped a bit later on, so I was playing at least normally But still it amazes me... Most pug parties would break up hours ago and if not, they would at least kick me out of the dungeon waaaaaaay before the end.

sudo · April 2013

I agree that GW2 community is in general very friendly and helpful. I'm on Piken Square and 90% of my player interaction experience is above average.

Volkon · April 2013

The entire PvE aspect of the game is set up to be non-competitive (against other players), and this is the end result, people helping instead of competing. Seriously, the absolute worst case of ePeen style trolling I've seen is someone linking multiple legendary weapons they have, and they got more "grats" than cat calls. The fact that you're automatically allies with everyone you see instead of fighting against them for mobs, loot, etc. results in a crowd that is more and more naturally working together instead of doing things at the expense of others. Just one of the things that makes this game great.