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1. Might as well complain that Star Wars: The Old Republic is a bad game only on the grounds that its not Knights of the Old Republic 3 (which by the way, would have VASTLY improved the game, as it is a good game, but a bad MMO).
2. Um, yes it is. If it is officially licensed by the owners of D&D to have the D&D title and has said title, it is a D&D game. Love it or hate it, it is still a D&D game, just like Wand of Gamelon and Faces of Evil are Zelda games. Just suck it up and take it like a man (or woman).
3. By that logic, City of Heroes was a bad game because it was made by Cryptic. Except it wasn't. In fact, it was the best game NCSoft had until they shut it down.
4. Logical fallacy. Moving on.
5. If you looked at the cash shop, you will see that there are no pay 2 win items. No uber-loot for sale, no gamebreaking anything. Do you even know what pay 2 win even means?
Since when is Tuesday a direction?
You obviously haven't looked at the item shop then because you can buy the best armor in the game there..
I agree. Whether you hate Cryptic or hate PW , the game does what it needs to and it is fun to play. Ill be the first to admit that I never liked Cryptic much or PW but I can't deny that the game isn't fun. I am having so much fun, and it's nice to play this MMO that's free until another one comes out that captures my interest.
I would give you a guest pass to SWOTR, but then I wouldn't be able to find a way to live with myself afterwards....
Yikes, heh.
That's sort of the problem with these posts...
They assume so much, they seem to be for the "public good" but in reality they are just expressions of people's anger.
Say what you want about cryptic but I've always found their games to be "good shallow fun". Meaning, I've always had fun in them for short bits of time. Nothing to dedicate myself to but I've always enjoyed myself fully knowing what they were about.
As far as it not being D&D, well, I understand it's a different ruleset and anyway, I always changed the D&D rules to suit my preference so I have no problems with a different ruleset.
Not sure where the pay to win comes from but I have a character who is level 23'ish and not only have I yet to use any cash shop I've yet to buy any gear. And I've been playing quests that are always ahead of my level.
Am I having fun? Sure!
do I have criticisms? You bet!
Will I stay with the game for years? Not at all!
But for now it's a pleasant enough diversion.
Having said that the foundry seems the real draw to the whole affair. both for players and creators.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
My theme song.
As an action oriented MMO/RPG it works very well. Yeah, you are "pigeonholed" into a specific style of a certain DnD 4.0 class, but your choices really open up after level 15 or so. Before then, it is pretty straightforward as to what abilities to upgrade/pick (as options are limited).
However, being only level 23, I am some times having a tough time determining if I want to upgrade an ability or pick up a new one. Will this new ability enhance my playstyle and build? Or should I upgrade an ability I already have?
When compared to DDO, yeah DDO provides the more "traditional" DnD leveling experience. But combat isn't as polished and feels awkward at times. Neverwinter... combat just flows albiet a bit chaotic at times. Combined with a fairly nice toolset in the Foundry.
I don't know why people think its P2W... it's not. In GW2 you could use the same exact tactic to rush to endgame. Spend a $$$$$ and buy crafting materials (which can be very very cheap) and craft to the top.
I do agree with some complaints that the conversion rate from AD to Zen is kind of high - this isn't dictated by Cryptic. I believe it is as high as it is mostly due to the fact that Guardian and Hero pre-orderers have tons of AD at their disposal. I could be wrong, but I imagine the conversion rate will drop.
You're just lucky I can't log in right now to take a screenshot of the cash shop to prove you wrong.
Since when is Tuesday a direction?
You can buy GOOD armor for you level in the shop. That isnt the best armor in the game, the best armor in the game comes from actually PLAYING the game.
Just DL'd and installed. Such a D&D lore fanboy. I have extremely low expectaions though. I know the game doesn't have nearly the depth of systems as the game I've been playing for the last 6 months.
I don't even know why I'm going to try... I am though, it's free. I'm gonna try to log on later today if I can pull myself away from Wushu. I will report back.
My experiences so far has been very positive.
- It is D&D but uses the 4.0e ruleset. That in itself lends to massive debate between fans of 3.5e and 4.0e. There are massive changes to the game mechanics so what might be familiar to old school 3.5e players might feel that 4.0e is completely alien due to the revamped system.
- It is set in the Forgotten Realms AFTER the spellplague has wiped out pretty much most of Faerun. Almost all the major gods and goddesses and many of the major heroes that define the Forgotten Realms campaign are dead, insane or both (dead and insane).
- The game has quite a few easter eggs. At the starting city of Neverwinter you can find a street named "Deekin's way" which refers of course to everyone's favorite henchman from NWN Deekin Scalesinger.
- Prestige class has become Paragon class which is pretty much like the prestige class of 3.5e with some changes.
- Character creation has been simplified. Well this is both a good and a bad thing. For those who are not familiar with the D&D ruleset and its minute details you can just jump in and play. No fuss no muss. However if you want to customize your character advancement deeply then it is kinda of a let down.
- Graphics is pretty good. I wouldn't say excellent but it is good. It reminds me of the graphics in Champions online but that's probably because they are using the same engine.
- Hack and slash is fun. This is an action RPG not pen and paper RPG so I am guessing some of the nuances from D&D PnP just simply don't translate well into an MMO without turning it into another DDO.
- Much reading. Well this is D&D what do you expect. Reading and reading comprehension is pretty much the basis of good roleplaying :P
- Buy to win. I don't think this is true. I have peruse the cash shop last night and while there are SOME items that gives you a boost there's really not a lot in it that can totally change the gameplay. But yes some people are complaining about the high prices of the zen goods. Note tho that many of the zen items are bound per account like all the zen mounts. Yes they are costly (3500-4000 zen) roughly around $40 bucks but those mounts are account bound (meaning all your chars from the same account will get them).
- Most of the items can be bought using the astral diamonds. They can be earned by doing daily quests. It's an in-game currency (there are quite a few of them). It's also a system to deter gold sellers since you cannot easily trade astral diamonds.
- Queues. Yes it's annoying. I suspect it's just a launch day thing. Most of the time my queue last for around 15-40 mins. Hopefully it'll be gone by the weekends.
- For those complaining about PVP. Well D&D is never about competitive gaming. D&D at it's core is all about cooperative gameplay with friends.
All in all I think NEVERWINTER is a good game. It still needs polish and some prices on the cash shop needs to come down.
+1 Very nice post
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
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I thought the best armor was bought with Seals. I have yet to see anything of that sort in the shop either.
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
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I agree with you, people seem to confuse Neverwinter with Neverwinter Nights and don't know about 4th Edition Ruleset. Also I didn't see anything that was P2W in the Zen Store.
I'm in the same boat but have still heard enough good about it to warrant giving it a try.
I could see someone playing alone feeling like they're missing the part that's fun, at least based on my own experience.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Right there!
It's ok to not like things....
I don't think the game is perfect, nor do I really care for the cash shop, but I find myself enjoying it more than I thought I would. Sorry, I guess I can't rage at this game like people seem to think I should.
Coming from me, that should say a lot. All it takes is to check my post history to see I have honestly voiced my critical opinion about Cryptic. Cryptic made a game even I can enjoy. The world must be ending.
I completely agree with this, only I think the phrase 'old school 3.5e players' is a bit lame though. Old school when it comes to D&D goes back to players who have played it during the TSR times. The original D&D, AD&D1e and AD&D2e have all 3 had a timespan of about 8-10 years between releases. 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 have much less between that (though I agree that 3,5 is the most played of these).
Also thank you for clarifying the new Fearun for me. After I quited AD&D2e I haven't kept up with the lore and I was already quite annoyed that Mystra was not there as Goddess of magic - I also missed a lot of other (for me) familiar dieties. Any good place to update the lore of the FR (other than WotC books)?