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RIFT going F2P on June 12th

AnnwynAnnwyn Member UncommonPosts: 2,854

Title says all.

 

http://www.riftgame.com/en/promo/freetoplay.php

 

And they've posted a few videos about F2P on their channel

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdLha0tAB0c

 

Edit: Seems I beated MMORPG.com by a minute. Muahahahahahah!

Comments

  • MadDemon64MadDemon64 Member UncommonPosts: 1,102

    Well, I guess that means all that's left is WoW.

    Will it go F2P or B2P?  Place your bets!

    Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094

     

    This has me interested and I'll likely play (and invest) quite a bit in it.  May even subscribe since I could quit my subscription any time and still have access to my characters and the game.

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Originally posted by MadDemon64

    Well, I guess that means all that's left is WoW.

    Will it go F2P or B2P?  Place your bets!

     

    Half a decade ago they said that WoW would likely go F2P at some point if it got to the point where subscriptions couldn't pay for the costs of operation.  Though if there is a new payment model that arises before then, they'd likely adopt that.  Then again it's be a long time since such a thing was mentioned as they kept on getting more subscriptions in.

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • sado2020sado2020 Member Posts: 112
    I loved Rift at launch and played for about six months and jumping in and out afterwards.  Hope this model helps breath life into the game.  This definitely peaked my interest

    Playing: TSW, D&D NW, Defiance (more the tv show than game >.> ) LotRO, DCUO

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  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk
    Originally posted by MadDemon64

    Well, I guess that means all that's left is WoW.

    Will it go F2P or B2P?  Place your bets!

     

    Half a decade ago they said that WoW would likely go F2P at some point if it got to the point where subscriptions couldn't pay for the costs of operation.  Though if there is a new payment model that arises before then, they'd likely adopt that.  Then again it's be a long time since such a thing was mentioned as they kept on getting more subscriptions in.

    MMORPG did an interview recently with the producer (I forgot his handle) and he said that while they're happy with the subscription returns at the moment and didn't see that changing soon, they are always evaluating what works best.

    That interview was prior to the release of a million sub loss though.  I'm also curious how the shifting landscape will affect them.

    More so, I'm curious if EVE will be affected.  They are niche (granted they are a big one) and no one else does what they do.  I think they could hold onto sub-locked longer than anyone else, unless a sub-free competitor comes their way.

     

    Indeed.  I was thinking they (WoW) might go the way of B2P or F2P by the time they released Titan so that they could have a cash shop cash cow and a subscription one.  As far as games that have subscriptions like these, I'm more likely inclined to pay for them knowing that I am not just "renting" the game and can quit at any time and still have access to the work and game I previously bought.  If it technically isn't worth a subscription to me, I'd still use the cash shop every now and again depending on just how much I play the game.

    If a game like WoW went B2P (most have the game bought already, but they can still make some on box prices if they have some kind of gold package with all the expansions) then I could see it's population explode once more and profits surge to unbelievable heights.  Though that's not likely in their cards until the game is just a few million strong (or less) and they want to do something "big" to regain tens of millions again and revitalize the franchise.

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • thinktank001thinktank001 Member UncommonPosts: 2,144
    Originally posted by Yaevindusk
    Originally posted by MadDemon64

    Well, I guess that means all that's left is WoW.

    Will it go F2P or B2P?  Place your bets!

     

    Half a decade ago they said that WoW would likely go F2P at some point if it got to the point where subscriptions couldn't pay for the costs of operation.  Though if there is a new payment model that arises before then, they'd likely adopt that.  Then again it's be a long time since such a thing was mentioned as they kept on getting more subscriptions in.

     

    WoW won't go to a cash shop model for a very long time.  It would need to lose at least 97% of it's current player population. 

     

     

  • AmbrosiaAmorAmbrosiaAmor Member Posts: 915

    A bit sad it went F2P. I was hoping they would’ve taken TSW route and gone B2P first. I really have to check my list of strictly P2P games. I remember games released post 2006 had roughly a dozen games using the P2P model exclusively (this was back in late 2011/early 2012). I think that list is now down to 2… maybe 3 (excluding FPS games)? I know there are still about half a dozen (or more) games released prior to 2006 that are still using the P2P model. FFXI, WOW, EVE come to mind.

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  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094
    Originally posted by AmbrosiaAmor

    A bit sad it went F2P. I was hoping they would’ve taken TSW route and gone B2P first. I really have to check my list of strictly P2P games. I remember games released post 2006 had roughly a dozen games using the P2P model exclusively (this was back in late 2011/early 2012). I think that list is now down to 2… maybe 3 (excluding FPS games)? I know there are still about half a dozen (or more) games released prior to 2006 that are still using the P2P model. FFXI, WOW, EVE come to mind.

     

    Haven't seen you post in a while, Ambrosia.  Welcome back.

    Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing).  German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century.  Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now).  I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things).  In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while.  If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.

    Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this.  If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own.  Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis.  Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
  • PsyMike3dPsyMike3d Member UncommonPosts: 388
    R.I.P. Tera,Swtor,Neverwinter and all other F2Ps... at last!!!
  • BigbadwlfBigbadwlf Member UncommonPosts: 117
    Originally posted by PsyMike3d
    R.I.P. Tera,Swtor,Neverwinter and all other F2Ps... at last!!!

    That's how I feel.  The sheer volume of Rift's content will easily put B2P and F2P games to shame. If you're looking for an MMO that can keep you busy for 6+ months and then they produce content during that time, it can easily go to 8+ months, there is no other F2P option besides Rift.  I'm so tired of having to play an MMO only to reach the cap and not have anything to do, forcing me to leave and come back. 

    However.

    Do we even want to play Rift anymore?  I was initially thrilled about Rift, but part of the reason why I left the game in the first place was because Rift was the WoW clone of all WoW clones.  SWTOR has been F2P for a while and I never touched that game, because frankly I'm tired of the WoW formula.  Even though Rift emulates WoW mechanics the best, do we still want to go back to eating same ol' meat and potatoes we've eaten for over 6+ years?

    Now that I've tasted action combat, games with good graphics, and raid free communities, is games like Rift even palatable to me?  I think at best Rift will be able to get it's original one million subscribers back at launch, but I couldn't imagine anybody that never bothered to try Rift in the first place wanting to play it now that it's F2P.

     

  • JorlJorl Member UncommonPosts: 257
    Sub games are becoming less popular but that is mainly due to the lack of creativity from developers. This was no different from world of Warcraft when it first came out, so people left. And we have swtor which is the same only that there are Light sabers.
  • MikeJezZMikeJezZ Member UncommonPosts: 1,268

    Hm. I am actually a bit surprised.

     

    Thought that Rift and World of Warcraft would keep their subscription. I guess only WoW can allow to do this...

     

    If I heard this a month ago I would have been thrilled, but I started to play Guild Wars 2 again and it is actually not that bad as I thought it would be since launch.

     

    The only thing I hate about GW2 is theres no gear progression... There is in Rift, but the combat is not just as fluid as with Guild Wars 2. Of course it is also alot older than GW2.

     

    And also that Rift mainly is a PvE game, with very stripped PvP.

  • AdrenAdren Member UncommonPosts: 69
    Originally posted by PsyMike3d
    R.I.P. Tera,Swtor,Neverwinter and all other F2Ps... at last!!!

    Dunno about Tera but yes i do say the others are pretty much done for...if SWTOR fix there f2p model they can compete a bit cuz ppl still want to swing around a light saber...i never thought neverwinter will make it..Tera's f2p model is great...RIFT would be the only westernized game to have a good f2p model (if the buying gear thing doesnt screw things up)...seems like only Aion and Tera..the korean games have good f2p models but if RIFT did this...all i can say is im excited..i do hope the buying gear stuff would be something like gear that u buy to level up and then once u get to endgame all of it will be obsolete and u have to grind out the dungeons and the raid content

     

    edit: and to the post above me RIFT isnt that much older then gw2 they almost came out int he same year gw2 kept getting pushed back

  • BigbadwlfBigbadwlf Member UncommonPosts: 117

    I think listening to players talk about Rift going F2P really opened up a window into the minds of people that hate the F2P model.  Now granted, there are a lot of games (almost all) that are F2P but are simply garbage like Neverwinter, but there are also games that are good F2P games.

    It seems the general idea is that F2P games cater to casual players, and hardcore players hate that a lot.  Rift kind of reminds me of EVE, another P2P game with a dedicated hardcore sandbox player base.  And Rift has a dedicated hardcore Raiding player base.  That's how it was a launch as well.  And that's fine, there aren't that many MMOs that actually cater to hardcore raiders anymore.  WoW has a lot of raiding but it seems that it seems that WoW's raiding isn't even hardcore enough for the Rift players, I guess they don't like WoW's LF Raid finder?

     I don't know if Rift was ever a casual friendly MMO, and I'm thinking that the developer's originally intended it not to be.  So it's surprising that they would do a complete 180* and go F2P trying to bring in the casual audience.  I don't think this game will seriously appeal to casual gamers unless Trion goes full monty and puts in a lot of cash shop items to mitigate the leveling grind, gear grind, reputation grind, and especially the horrible PvP ranking grind. But if they do go all the way, this will pretty much kill their hardcore raider community.  But if they don't do it, then I don't think the casual players are going to be sticking around for long when they reach endgame and find out they are just fodder for raiding guild community.

    This will be interesting to see how far Trion is willing to go with their F2P model and cash shop.

     

  • AdrenAdren Member UncommonPosts: 69
    if its free...ppl will stay...Gw1 still had a surprising amount of ppl playing it ...and i think it still does...as long as RIFT keeps  the cash shop reasonable then it will last
  • PanzerbasePanzerbase Member Posts: 423
    The pressure must be tremendous on every developer at this point, the MMO market is saturated and is in need of a correction and that can only come in the form of another WOW type game, and I don't see anything on the horizon. Titan maybe, but who knows where that is at right now. 
  • AzdulAzdul Member UncommonPosts: 440
    Originally posted by MikeJezZ

    Hm. I am actually a bit surprised.

    Thought that Rift and World of Warcraft would keep their subscription. I guess only WoW can allow to do this...

    There are plenty of smaller P2P MMOs - mainly sandbox ones.

    The "advantage" of F2P model is that you can downsize the team without immediate consequences to the revenue. Nobody would pay subscription if the only new thing they get is bunch of cosmetic items every few weeks - and F2P audience just doesn't care.

  • tet666tet666 Member UncommonPosts: 295
    BTW the Raptr promotion is still running too so you can get a totally free veteran account with storm legion in adcvance if you dont have one allrdy :)
  • dasX82dasX82 Member UncommonPosts: 104
    Originally posted by Jorl
    Sub games are becoming less popular but that is mainly due to the lack of creativity from developers. This was no different from world of Warcraft when it first came out, so people left. And we have swtor which is the same only that there are Light sabers.

    Some mmo players seem they live in a different world or maybe in their virtual world, i think there is no lack of creativity just that world is living an economic crisis, and each time are more countries in troubles i'd like to know how many people from SPAIN, GREECE, CYPRUS, ITALY and many other countries around Europe excepting Germany and some other few can pay a 14 Euros a month to play a game.

     

     
  • CamoebCamoeb Member UncommonPosts: 53
    Rift is am amazing game and I'm glad to see the changes that will be coming next month. I feel that the perks they will be offering to subscribing members are actually pretty good. The only thing I wish they would put in the sub model is priority log in if theres a que on your server. It looks like the only things you aren't getting are the Storm Legion souls released last fall. I'm guessing they will be in the cash shop or you'd need to buy the expansion to get them?
  • tet666tet666 Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Originally posted by Camoeb

    Rift is am amazing game and I'm glad to see the changes that will be coming next month. I feel that the perks they will be offering to subscribing members are actually pretty good. The only thing I wish they would put in the sub model is priority log in if theres a que on your server. It looks like the only things you aren't getting are the Storm Legion souls released last fall. I'm guessing they will be in the cash shop or you'd need to buy the expansion to get them?

     

    yes or you can take the raptr promotion as i posted above and get them for free^^
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