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Wait , this bug existed in STO , another PWE game , and they still let it go through to NW ?

DahkohtDahkoht Member UncommonPosts: 479

From the massively thread,

 

http://i.imgur.com/oA6Z8.jpg

 

Apparently some have pointed out STO had this same bug months ago , and yet the Cryptic programmers let it happen in NW also ?

 

Seriously , someone defend this , someone excuse this , someone tell me how in any way this doesn't make NW not up to any even reasonable standards ?

 

 

 

 

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Hahahaha !

     

    Now why does that screenie look so familiar ?

     

    Obviously, someone at Cryptic "forgot" about that minor bug when they re-used the code from STO to reskin it for NWO....

  • FyendiarFyendiar Member UncommonPosts: 250
    How did they resolve the problem in STO?
  • SourajitSourajit Member UncommonPosts: 472
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    Hahahaha !

     

    Now why does that screenie look so familiar ?

     

    Obviously, someone at Cryptic "forgot" about that minor bug when they re-used the code from STO to reskin it for NWO....

    It is a harsh world with all the looters out to loot money be it astral diamonds in-game or be it real life money.

    Shame Shame Shame !!!

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  • NirvyNirvy Member Posts: 73
    Originally posted by Fyendiar
    How did they resolve the problem in STO?

    Mainly 72 hour bans, they had trouble removing the duped money and the economy took a LONG time to recover.

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  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Fyendiar
    How did they resolve the problem in STO?

    Those are credits... dilithium is what's used to trade for zen... if dilithium wasn't affected by this dupe then...yeah... explains it.

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  • hammarushammarus Member UncommonPosts: 196
    • Wait.  What?!?
     
     
    That looks incredibly familar, as in this morning familar.  Un-fking-believable~!~~!
  • BMBenderBMBender Member UncommonPosts: 827
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Correction, IT"S CALLED BETA.  since they are selling services it is subject to consumer review not tester review

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  • FyendiarFyendiar Member UncommonPosts: 250
    Originally posted by Nirvy
    Originally posted by Fyendiar
    How did they resolve the problem in STO?

    Mainly 72 hour bans, they had trouble removing the duped money and the economy took a LONG time to recover.

    Thanks for the quick reply. Makes me wish for a complete and total wipe even more tbh. With zen used that was bought wth real money reimbursed of course. :)

  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    This....for all the people that think they are playing the Live game, would be a blast if the devs whipe the character database after this......the rage!

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  • FyendiarFyendiar Member UncommonPosts: 250
    Originally posted by Dihoru
    Originally posted by Fyendiar
    How did they resolve the problem in STO?

    Those are credits... dilithium is what's used to trade for zen... if dilithium wasn't affected by this dupe then...yeah... explains it.

    So the exploit in STO was about a form of currency not related to real money in any way? Not counting gold sellers ofc.

  • FyendiarFyendiar Member UncommonPosts: 250
    Originally posted by Muke
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    This....for all the people that think they are playing the Live game, would be a blast if the devs whipe the character database after this......the rage!

    I think there is rage already and no matter the route they choose will cause more rage. So the amount of rage should not be a part of the decision making.

  • GardavsshadeGardavsshade Member UncommonPosts: 907
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    NOT ....WHEN THEY OPEN ......THE CASH SHOP FOR BUSINESSSSSSSSSSSSS IT'S NOTTTTTTT

    It's as much a BETA Testing Phase as I am a Alien from Jupiter.

     

  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Member UncommonPosts: 759
    Originally posted by BMBender
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Correction, IT"S CALLED BETA.  since they are selling services it is subject to consumer review not tester review

    Correct! You can call it "beta", but if you are allowing purchases of real money for in game items then we are not testers anymore... we are consumers!


  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Originally posted by Fyendiar
    Originally posted by Muke
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    This....for all the people that think they are playing the Live game, would be a blast if the devs whipe the character database after this......the rage!

    I think there is rage already and no matter the route they choose will cause more rage. So the amount of rage should not be a part of the decision making.

     Double down and try to piss them all off!

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  • aesperusaesperus Member UncommonPosts: 5,135
    Originally posted by Gardavsshade
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    NOT ....WHEN THEY OPEN ......THE CASH SHOP FOR BUSINESSSSSSSSSSSSS IT'S NOTTTTTTT

    It's as much a BETA Testing Phase as I am a Alien from Jupiter.

    This ^.

    They can call it whatever they want. The fact of the matter is they're engaging in business transactions. People are spending real money, and being screwed out of it through negligence.

  • SourajitSourajit Member UncommonPosts: 472
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Gardavsshade
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    NOT ....WHEN THEY OPEN ......THE CASH SHOP FOR BUSINESSSSSSSSSSSSS IT'S NOTTTTTTT

    It's as much a BETA Testing Phase as I am a Alien from Jupiter.

    This ^.

    They can call it whatever they want. The fact of the matter is they're engaging in business transactions. People are spending real money, and being screwed out of it through negligence.

    They can call it whatever they want to.

    I being a player in this mmo industry for so many years will just call it a shameful part of the industry.

    This should not be continued by any company.

    This is sheer malpractice for a service provider.

    Cheers
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  • JyiigaJyiiga Member UncommonPosts: 1,187
    Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit, but what do I know. 
  • InsaneDalekInsaneDalek Member Posts: 119
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    THIS....IS....BETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    And if you have a single shred of common sense (rare these days, I know) in your mind, you'll realize that 'Open Beta' in the case of this (and many other games) is simply a marketing term, nothing more. If there is no danger of character / item wipes, and the cash shop is open for business, then (now say it with me) THIS... IS... RELEASE!!!

    I can call a duck a squid, but that doesn't make it true. Unless I have some form of transmogrification ray...

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  • aesperusaesperus Member UncommonPosts: 5,135
    Originally posted by Jyiiga
    Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit, but what do I know. 

    It absolutely is.

    They'll try and convince people that it's not, and most people don't want to go through the trouble of a legal battle of an online transaction, but it's definitely illegal to sell someone a product under false pretenses, to sell someone a product & then delete it, or to sell someone a product and take that product away (without just cause). Even when that product is a server (i.e. a video game), if it's being sold to you, they can't just say 'thanks for the money, but u can't play anymore'.

    If you're down 5$, then ya it's not really worth battling, but if you've spent 100s of dollar and lost it due to this company's incompetence, if they don't give that back, it'd might not be a bad idea to talk to a lawyer. Just be prepared for the possibility of losing.

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Member UncommonPosts: 959
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Jyiiga
    Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit, but what do I know. 

    It absolutely is.

    They'll try and convince people that it's not, and most people don't want to go through the trouble of a legal battle of an online transaction, but it's definitely illegal to sell someone a product under false pretenses, to sell someone a product & then delete it, or to sell someone a product and take that product away (without just cause). Even when that product is a server (i.e. a video game), if it's being sold to you, they can't just say 'thanks for the money, but u can't play anymore'.

    If you're down 5$, then ya it's not really worth battling, but if you've spent 100s of dollar and lost it due to this company's incompetence, if they don't give that back, it'd might not be a bad idea to talk to a lawyer. Just be prepared for the possibility of losing.

    see problem here is that they sold you the game not the server, otherwise i have a few companies who closed down thier game servers that i would like to form a mass lawsuit aginst

     

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  • FyendiarFyendiar Member UncommonPosts: 250
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Jyiiga
    Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit, but what do I know. 

    It absolutely is.

    They'll try and convince people that it's not, and most people don't want to go through the trouble of a legal battle of an online transaction, but it's definitely illegal to sell someone a product under false pretenses, to sell someone a product & then delete it, or to sell someone a product and take that product away (without just cause). Even when that product is a server (i.e. a video game), if it's being sold to you, they can't just say 'thanks for the money, but u can't play anymore'.

    If you're down 5$, then ya it's not really worth battling, but if you've spent 100s of dollar and lost it due to this company's incompetence, if they don't give that back, it'd might not be a bad idea to talk to a lawyer. Just be prepared for the possibility of losing.

    I don't see the grounds for a lawsuit, can you explain? The game launched (yes in  my opinion it is launched), yet called it open beta. Just by calling it that you know what you are getting in to. You know you will start playing an unfinished product, you know you will (if you do) spend money on an unfinished product. You know beforehand that the product will be flawed simply because they refuse to call it an official launch and use the transparent "open beta" claim.

    I am not american, I don't live in a lawsuit nation, so maybe that is why I can't see the grounds for a lawsuit based on your own mistakes made.

    Please enlighten me.

  • BMBenderBMBender Member UncommonPosts: 827
    Originally posted by Fyendiar
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Jyiiga
    Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit, but what do I know. 

    It absolutely is.

    They'll try and convince people that it's not, and most people don't want to go through the trouble of a legal battle of an online transaction, but it's definitely illegal to sell someone a product under false pretenses, to sell someone a product & then delete it, or to sell someone a product and take that product away (without just cause). Even when that product is a server (i.e. a video game), if it's being sold to you, they can't just say 'thanks for the money, but u can't play anymore'.

    If you're down 5$, then ya it's not really worth battling, but if you've spent 100s of dollar and lost it due to this company's incompetence, if they don't give that back, it'd might not be a bad idea to talk to a lawyer. Just be prepared for the possibility of losing.

    I don't see the grounds for a lawsuit, can you explain? The game launched (yes in  my opinion it is launched), yet called it open beta. Just by calling it that you know what you are getting in to. You know you will start playing an unfinished product, you know you will (if you do) spend money on an unfinished product. You know beforehand that the product will be flawed simply because they refuse to call it an official launch and use the transparent "open beta" claim.

    I am not american, I don't live in a lawsuit nation, so maybe that is why I can't see the grounds for a lawsuit based on your own mistakes made.

    Please enlighten me.

    The danger here for PWE/Cryptic isn't lawsuits, it's the PR/marketing disaster this has an excellent chance of becoming.  PWE/Cryptic's brand didn't exactly have a stellar reputation going in to this mess

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  • SebaliSebali Member UncommonPosts: 395
    i really dont care as i am not playing nor will play this game but it can no longer be considered beta if they are charging players and there will not be a wipe. the game is launched. no matter what the developers care to call it
  • DahkohtDahkoht Member UncommonPosts: 479
    For the day crew - to make sure the defenders to have a chance to try and explain how Cryptic put in the same bug that STO had months ago.

    I've yet to see the PWE can do no wrong crew spin this one. They just duck it.
  • 9ineven9ineven Member UncommonPosts: 168

    I can't believe some people come with the "it's beta" excuse lol.

    I hope it was sarcasm that I didn't spot...

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